Deceptive Advertising? R&B

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Just curious as to how many opted for tuition with their respective scholarships and was told up front by the college they selected that said college would cover their room and board. Did they actually cover the full thing? Was there a caveat or is it a gimmick?
 
Just curious as to how many opted for tuition with their respective scholarships and was told up front by the college they selected that said college would cover their room and board. Did they actually cover the full thing? Was there a caveat or is it a gimmick?
What college? If you look at the top of the ROTC forums that discuss colleges covering room and board. If it's official word from the college that you received I've no reason to doubt it. There are colleges that do that
 
What college? If you look at the top of the ROTC forums that discuss colleges covering room and board. If it's official word from the college that you received I've no reason to doubt it. There are colleges that do that
I meant in terms of their website saying “we cover xyz to all rotc scholarship recipients” only to actually say we do but only this set amount
 
Unfortunately this "benefit" is a value added from the school (not the military) and can change with the winds of funding.

DS is a 3-year AROTC scholarship winner starting college this fall. Several of the schools on his list offer varying degrees of room and board offsets. Two schools offered to cover 100 percent of room and board all four years. Another school offered to cover only the room portion and yet another can't seem to give a firm answer despite the fact the school website says all full and partial ROTC scholarship winners get a room and board scholarship from the school.

Bottom line: CONFIRM WITH THE SCHOOL AND GET IT IN WRITING before you commit. I'm learning fast that many things are said but not all are done.
 
Syracuse and University of Vermont both verbally and in writing said they'd cover room and board if you were a National scholarship recipient - just asked again at both detachments last weekend when visiting for admitted student days.
 
I meant in terms of their website saying “we cover xyz to all rotc scholarship recipients” only to actually say we do but only this set amount
In our experience, there was a limit to what they would cover in relation to room choice. There was a set amount and some rooms were priced above that amount. Our DS chose to live in a "off-campus" house that was still owned/run by the university his senior year. There was a premium associated with that choice that we covered out of pocket. However, there were plenty of options that were within the limit, so any out of pocket cost could have been avoided.
 
Always get that in an email.....and I have gone through this twice. You gotta ask a lot of pointed pressing questions. Make sure you drill down on the actual financial aid officer...not a student employed there and verify with bursars office and ROO. I just ask the question. "How does this work? My son is a 4 year winner and I was told (insert copy of email) R&B are covered. Will it show up on his account before his bill is due? Will I be expected to pay anything. " In most cases ROTC Tuition does not happen until they contract which is after they get on campus and pass ACFT. This can be weeks after semester starts....then maybe after when Tuition comes from cadet command your ROO will email school a list of contracted cadets and university will start process of holding up there end of the bargain. That entire time your student will be showing a full past due bill. That is why you have to have a adult at Financial AId and Bursars office you are talking to.....usually once that first semester is done then your student/cadet if on the list they are way more accommodating. You mileage will vary by school. Some schools are very ROTC friendly. Some barely know they have ROTC.
 
In our experience, there was a limit to what they would cover in relation to room choice. There was a set amount and some rooms were priced above that amount. Our DS chose to live in a "off-campus" house that was still owned/run by the university his senior year. There was a premium associated with that choice that we covered out of pocket. However, there were plenty of options that were within the limit, so any out of pocket cost could have been avoided.
This discussion reminds me of the room and board included in my undergrad scholarship, along with the blessing of full tuition, fees, book allowance, summer study grants, etc. - I didn’t quibble when that meant I lived in a freshman dorm all 4 years. No cool quad rooms with living area and kitchen, or nice shared house off-campus, but I did work a deal to be the Resident Assistant’s (RA) assistant, and did all her admin scut work in exchange for a single room with a nice view over the athletic fields and trees rather than a shared room, at the end of a quiet corridor. Every little bit helped.
 
This discussion reminds me of the room and board included in my undergrad scholarship, along with the blessing of full tuition, fees, book allowance, summer study grants, etc. - I didn’t quibble when that meant I lived in a freshman dorm all 4 years. No cool quad rooms with living area and kitchen, or nice shared house off-campus, but I did work a deal to be the Resident Assistant’s (RA) assistant, and did all her admin scut work in exchange for a single room with a nice view over the athletic fields and trees rather than a shared room, at the end of a quiet corridor. Every little bit helped.
Seems like you always know how to work the system. :D
 
Seems like you always know how to work the system. :D
I realize how much I learned from my dad about how to ask for things and be creative about solutions.

Back to thread topic - ask for details, get it in writing from a person with the authority to do it.
 
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Always get that in an email.....and I have gone through this twice. You gotta ask a lot of pointed pressing questions. Make sure you drill down on the actual financial aid officer...not a student employed there and verify with bursars office and ROO. I just ask the question. "How does this work? My son is a 4 year winner and I was told (insert copy of email) R&B are covered. Will it show up on his account before his bill is due? Will I be expected to pay anything. " In most cases ROTC Tuition does not happen until they contract which is after they get on campus and pass ACFT. This can be weeks after semester starts....then maybe after when Tuition comes from cadet command your ROO will email school a list of contracted cadets and university will start process of holding up there end of the bargain. That entire time your student will be showing a full past due bill. That is why you have to have a adult at Financial AId and Bursars office you are talking to.....usually once that first semester is done then your student/cadet if on the list they are way more accommodating. You mileage will vary by school. Some schools are very ROTC friendly. Some barely know they have ROTC.
Just had this conversation yesterday, asking about what happens when scholarship kicks in. Does school wait for Army to pay, knowing they will drag their feet? Or are you going to be chasing my DS around telling him he has to fork over $30 grand and then get a refund when Uncle Sam sends the check?

Basically, the guy was very knowledgeable but explained it is on DS to make CERTAIN he is ready to contract immediately upon showing up at school for sophomore year (he is 3-year AD scholarship winner). That means being medically qualified, passing ACFT, having security clearance, etc, etc. Basically, if you contract on time, your name goes on the magic "list" ROTC sends over to the business office and the schools covers your tuition for you while they wait for the Army to send the money. But if you AREN'T on the list, then yes, they are going to hold you personally responsible for tuition and fees. Now, that doesn't mean you won't be able to contract later in the semester and get the Army to pay, but it does mean you may have to take a hefty loan to cover the semester and then wait for a refund. Basically, if you can't afford to do that, make sure it doesn't happen. Or, as the financial aid guy told me, "I have seen that happen to some kids, and it's not pretty."

As @gooseblitz said, be pro-active in communicating with your ROO, the financial aid office, bursar's office, etc. It should not be a secret that you are on an ROTC scholarship, and hopefully they understand that it's a process and work with you.

Same goes for room and board. If something was promised (you better have it in writing/email) and it's not showing up on your account, be prepared to fight. You may need ROTC cadre to back you up/make a phone call/send an email, etc. Again, the odds of getting through the whole college experience without a single snafu in this area seem slim to me, but I think as long as you do your homework you'll be able to work it all out in time.

As I told the financial aid counselor, "I thought when my son got the ROTC scholarship, it was a golden ticket. Well, it kind of is, but it's also not." The scholarship is FANTASTIC, but it's not a free ride, and it's not something that puts you on easy street. Every semester the pressure is on DS to perform academically, physically and militarily to maintain eligibility. As I repeatedly tell him, "The day you show up on campus this fall, YOU are your backup plan. It's all on your shoulders. If at any point you are unable to continue with your ROTC scholarship, there is little chance you will be able to afford to continue at X school."

Now, that's some motivation!
 
I realize how much I learned from my dad about hiw to ask fir things and be creative about solutions.
As youngsters at USNA, my roommates and I were willing volunteers to take a room on "Goat Court" when our classmates actively spurned it.
Later, they realized that we had the only "double sized" room in the company so we had lots of room even with 3 people.
 
DS is a 3YR AD recipient. In state at VMI. I paid more out of pocket this year on scholarship than I did his rat year when not on scholarship. 🤷‍♂️
 
DS is a 3YR AD recipient. In state at VMI. I paid more out of pocket this year on scholarship than I did his rat year when not on scholarship. 🤷‍♂️
Does he not have the Call to Duty room and board scholarship from VMI? I would think with ROTC covering tution and the Call to Duty your out of pocket costs should be very minimal.
 
Does he not have the Call to Duty room and board scholarship from VMI? I would think with ROTC covering tution and the Call to Duty your out of pocket costs should be very minimal.
Unfortunately Call of Duty started with class of '27.
 
Unfortunately Call of Duty started with class of '27.
Ugh! We are dealing with something similar right now at The Citadel. They were paying 100% tuition and room/board for 3-year AD winners in the Classes of 2026 and 2027. But they've cut it way back for the Class of 2028 and it's going to cost a tidy bundle for freshman year.

Meanwhile, VMI is practically begging DS to come with four years of free room and board (Call of Duty) and a very generous aid offer for freshman year.
 
Ugh! We are dealing with something similar right now at The Citadel. They were paying 100% tuition and room/board for 3-year AD winners in the Classes of 2026 and 2027. But they've cut it way back for the Class of 2028 and it's going to cost a tidy bundle for freshman year.

Meanwhile, VMI is practically begging DS to come with four years of free room and board (Call of Duty) and a very generous aid offer for freshman year.
well that sucks. DS will not go wrong with either school. I am from Charleston, SC and choose VMI. Both great schools but I obviously have affinity for one over the other!
 
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