Did I pass the CFA?

[ServantoUSA]

I am concerned about the minimums... I have heard that it is mandatory to get 6 or more pull ups. I only got 5 but did well in other areas.
I maxed out Push-ups and Sit-ups and got a 5:30 mile.
Any information would be great, thanks!

 

[PinWrestling]

It doesnt matter what the minimums are. Even though the CFA is a very small part of your WCS every point counts. Look at the max's and consider that as the minimum (with more leniency towards the B-ball and shuttle run). What if your application is on the edge of being accepted and declined appointment and all you needed was a few more pull ups to bump up your WCS? All it takes is 10 minutes every other day to improve.

But if you really want the minimums, the CFA is used by USNA, USAFA, and USMA one of them might post their minimums on their website if the USNA doesnt. Its the same test with similar schools, it might be off by a little, but it will be close.

 

[candor]

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Maybe look at the averages as a minimum instead of the max scores when considering your goals. Maybe 6 could be the minimum number of pull-ups, but if you can do 7 or 8 or 9, why not work those extra few minutes to get there? Also, like PinWrestling mentioned, even a small bump in any area of your CFA could bump your WCS right over the edge.

Also, please correct me if I am wrong, but I do not believe the minimum scores are posted anywhere solely for the reason that we shouldn't just AIM to SETTLE at the minimums. Just continue with your fitness (and the rest of your future applications) with the mindset that the average simply isn't enough. Regardless, maxing on your push-ups, sit-ups, and an incredible mile is impressive. Good luck!

 

[Mom529]

I am concerned about the minimums... I have heard that it is mandatory to get 6 or more pull ups. I only got 5 but did well in other areas.
I maxed out Push-ups and Sit-ups and got a 5:30 mile.
Any information would be great, thanks!

I have read several times somewhere that the purpose of the test is to see how trainable you are for the future. Do not quote me on any of this, but it looks like you did an excellent job at showing your potential. Do not let that pull-up get you down. You are obviously in great shape with plenty of time to take it again if you want to.

 

[Old Navy BGO]

I have read several times somewhere that the purpose of the test is to see how trainable you are for the future.

Absolutely wrong... This has nothing to do with trainability. It has everything to do with whether a candidate is physically qualified to serve as an Officer in the Navy or Marine Corps. This appears as a Qualfied or Rejected on the BGIS system; and is one of the Q's necessary to be 3Q and appointed to USNA. This is not about "showing potential", its about meeting a minimum requirement which honestly is not that high a bar. Further, as others have pointed out -- Appointment to USNA is competitive, so meeting the minimum standard may not be enough. If Admissions has two otherwise identical candidates, but one did 20 pull ups and one did 5 --- who do you think will get admitted ? Of course, I recognize there is no such thing as "two otherwise identical candidates..." but this is an illustration -- I recently attended an BGO seminar, and the Admissions rep commented that he had seen the decision come down to comparison of CFA results.

To OP -- Not trying to be negative here, but some of the advice above is good...don't look for the minimum, but train to the maximum.

 

[NAHL42]

If I do not pass it at NASS am I done for?

 

[FMHS-79]

No, you will have the opportunity to work hard and submit improved scores as a part of your application submission.

 

[Mom529]

Absolutely wrong... This has nothing to do with trainability. It has everything to do with whether a candidate is physically qualified to serve as an Officer in the Navy or Marine Corps. This appears as a Qualfied or Rejected on the BGIS system; and is one of the Q's necessary to be 3Q and appointed to USNA. This is not about "showing potential", its about meeting a minimum requirement which honestly is not that high a bar. Further, as others have pointed out -- Appointment to USNA is competitive, so meeting the minimum standard may not be enough. If Admissions has two otherwise identical candidates, but one did 20 pull ups and one did 5 --- who do you think will get admitted ? Of course, I recognize there is no such thing as "two otherwise identical candidates..." but this is an illustration -- I recently attended an BGO seminar, and the Admissions rep commented that he had seen the decision come down to comparison of CFA results.

To OP -- Not trying to be negative here, but some of the advice above is good...don't look for the minimum, but train to the maximum.

Thank you for the clarification. I think it was several years ago that I read that.

 

[NavyHoops]

Old Navy is spot on. I also heard the same thing from admissions. The CFA bar is not high to pass. The PRT minimums for USNA are much higher. For those who really want to attend USNA you should be using that great search engine to find the USNA PRT standards and start training to them once the CFA is complete. I have seen Mids struggle to pass the PRT. It doesn't make life fun. It's makes the USNA experience much more stressful. It's rare, but I have seen Mids get kicked out for not passing the PRT. The majority of those who struggle with the PRT it is a battle with the run.

 

[jsteiner]

If I do not pass it at NASS am I done for?

You can retake the CFA as many times as you wish before the application deadline. Keep in mind that every time you ask to retake the CFA, your old scores are wiped clean and your new scores are your score, the don't take the best result per exercise from each test, you get what you get on your most current test.

 

[Keel-USNA]

Actually I've heard from multiple midshipmen and the USNA soccer coaches that USNA super scores your CFA. I am not 100% sure on that and understand it defeats the purpose of doing the events in a sequence, but that is what I was told by multiple reliable sources.

 

[Artillery]

Actually I've heard from multiple midshipmen and the USNA soccer coaches that USNA super scores your CFA. I am not 100% sure on that and understand it defeats the purpose of doing the events in a sequence, but that is what I was told by multiple reliable sources.

At NASS a bunch of people asked this and I'm pretty sure they dont. I may be wrong though...

 

[time2]

USNA does NOT 'superscore'......if you retake the CFA your new scores replace the old. Read more about CFA in the stickies posted in the USNA area. Part of the CFA is the fatigue factor associated with multiple consecutive events.

What do I do if I want to retake the CFA?

If you want to retake the CFA, you contact your RD and let him/her know. The RD will "reset" the system to allow a new score to be substituted. Note that, unlike SATs/ACTs, USNA doesn't take the "best" results from each test; rather, the new test will be substituted for the old test.

 

[Wishful]

Ditto PinWrestling's post above & recommend you take his advise. Also lots of info on the CFA if you use the search function.

 

[ServantoUSA]

Thanks for the guidance!! I was told that I passed, so good stuff! I also passed at West Point where I did not max out anything and only got 4 pull ups, my run was a 5:56 and push ups and sit ups were pretty high.