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  1. DesertCaliMom

    DesertCaliMom Member

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    The dreaded email showed up today. No offer for prep school or foundation according to letter.

    DS will attend Norwich next year with or without NROTC (haven't heard) and will re-apply next year. His passion and sense of belonging for USNA hasn't faltered.

    As I told him when he started this journey four years ago, he's an incredible young man with incredible dreams and to even get this far is a feat.

    Thanks for the help, all.
     
  2. Humey

    Humey Member

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    When u say haven’t heard from NRotc, I assume you mean scholarships. I ask because can join Rotc even if u don’t get money from them
     
  3. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ 10-Year Member

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    Sorry to hear this - there will be the five stages of grief - but if he really wants this, he has his shot at joining the ranks of proud re-applicants, similar to those who have popped up on the 2023 appointment thread.

    Norwich is a great next step, and I hope he decides to try NROTC there. And - if he can handle VT winters, Annapolis wx will be a piece of cake down the road.
     
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  4. Sydney C.

    Sydney C. 5-Year Member

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    He is indeed! Head up! Norwich is a fine school and trust he will thrive. The journey is not ended but continues and we wish him all the very best going forward.
     
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  5. Lazyboy

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    I wish you and your DS the best! May he rise to all challenges and find many successes!
     
  6. DesertCaliMom

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    Yeah, he's accepted to Corps of Cadets either way. He's exploring the possibility of a 3 year if needed, as well as the NSA 3 year scholarship (almost the same as ROTC). Financial Aid from Norwich is outstandingly generous for need based students. There's no way I could afford to support him there without it.
     
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    Best of luck to you and your son!!
     
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  8. 1mom

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    Best wishes to your DS.
     
  9. PlanAhead

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    I'm bummed for your DS and for you. There's no way a young person can get this far in the process without the love, support, and guidance of his/her family, so I can imagine it's a huge letdown for you, as well.

    There's no question that your DS will go far, even if it looks different from what he had imagined. Hats off to you both!
     
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    Old Navy BGO 5-Year Member

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    Sorry to hear ....but sounds like a good Plan B. There is a Sticky at the top of the forum with good gouge about reapplying.
    I don't recall if its in the sticky, but DS should try to contact his Regional Admissons Officer and /or BGO to try to identify any weaknesses in his application. I wouldn't recommend contacting Admissions now...they have their hands full...but a good time may be during the summer or early fall next year before they start spooling into the next cycle.
     
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  11. wannabeplebe

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    Sorry to hear the news. I was in the same boat last year, but decided to join an NROTC unit (without scholarship) in hopes of picking up an USNA appointment after freshman year because I was so set on ending up there; I had no intentions of staying at my "plan B" school. I've now applied for the NROTC scholarship as a freshman and being in the unit has truly been a great experience so far that I decided not to reapply to the academy. Of course, I would've loved an appointment the first time around, but I really feel like I'm where I need to be. Tell your DS to keep an open mind going into his freshman year and PM me if you've got any questions that I may be able to answer from the perspective of a college-program NROTC MIDN.
     
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  12. usslloyd

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    We're also looking at the possibility of entering an NROTC unit without a scholarship. I think I know the answer to this, but... if that happens, can you enter any NROTC unit in a college to which you've been accepted, and (just as important) they still have space? In other words, there's no reason to restrict yourself to the original schools you named on your scholarship application; they're all out the window and you're starting over looking for the 3-year scholarship, correct?
     
  13. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Moderator 5-Year Member

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    You can choose any college that offers NROTC. Once there, you will compete to achieve:
    1. A scholarship. OR
    2. Advanced Standing (You need this or a scholarship to continue to your junior year in NROTC)
    Because you can commission without earning a scholarship, it is important that you choose an AFFORDABLE college in case you don't earn a 2 or 3 year scholarship. Failure to earn advanced standing or a scholarship will result in being disenrolled from NROTC by the start of your junior year.

    Iowa State has a nice summary description of the NROTC College Program along with FAQ's.
    https://www.navy.iastate.edu/about/college-program/
     
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  14. wannabeplebe

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    This is how I did it:
    I chose the school I knew I wanted to attend. I used the school's website to find the NROTC main contact (in my case, the freshman Officer Instructor) and sent him an email explaining that I had been accepted to the school and I was interested in joining the unit (without scholarship). He sent me some info and attached an application for me to fill out (it mostly just asked for SAT scores, GPA, typically stuff like that). Within the next week or so, I had scheduled a phone interview with the unit's CO. He asked typical USNA interview-type questions (why I want to join, etc.). It went well and I was set to join the unit when I got the school. Throughout the summer, I received identical info about the program as the scholarship MIDN as to when to report to the unit, what to bring, etc. And now, here I am. While all of this was happening, I was filling out the NROTC national scholarship application due January 31, 2018. So as of right now, I am a college-program MIDN competing for the 4-year scholarship (chose option on scholarship application that says I will only accept the scholarship at the school I'm currently at) that would take become effective Fall 2018 and essentially cover up to my fifth year of college (should I need it). If I don't receive that scholarship, I will work with my freshman OI to fill out a special 3-year scholarship and if that doesn't work, then a 2-year. There's no reason to restrict yourself to the schools on your scholarship application if you were denied the scholarship during the last go around. However, if you're competing for the 2018 scholarship, I'm not sure how it would work to join a unit (without scholarship) and then be assigned to another unit/school... Hopefully this post makes sense
     
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    (thank you). So, do have to worry about if they still have space in the NROTC unit, or is that (i.e., number of slots) just a concern for the actual scholarship recipients?
     
  16. wannabeplebe

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    I would assume that is only a concern for scholarship recipients, but I don't think you'd be able to join the unit, even as a college programmer, if they didn't have enough space for you as a scholarship recipient - definitely a great question to ask the NROTC contact at your school of interest.
     
  17. usslloyd

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    great stuff, thanks!
     
  18. wannabeplebe

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    Feel free to PM with any questions about the process (currently procrastinating studying for a physics test :rolleyes:)
     
  19. usslloyd

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    Appreciate that! Confessing to be a parent here looking at plans B, C, D, etc. DS applied for Marine Option; did not get on first board. Not feeling tremendously optimistic for second board because (at least in parent's view :)) application is otherwise fairly strong but he did not get close to a 300 on the PFT. Crunch score mainly hurt us; my calculation shows us about 2 points under first class score. And lots of folks have been helpful on this site explaining how important that is for Marine Option.
     
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  20. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Moderator 5-Year Member

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    If your DS is seeking Marine option, don't ignore the possibility of PLC. Of course that is also dependent on a great PFT!
     
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