Getting into NAPS

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oldlooper

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Trying to encourage my daughter to consider USNA or USCGA. She is wicked tough, but into art . Sophomore with 4.0

Stupid question I have is getting into NAPS. So if you apply and dont get accepted, how to get into NAPS from there.
 
oldlooper said:
Trying to encourage my daughter to consider USNA or USCGA. She is wicked tough, but into art . Sophomore with 4.0

Stupid question I have is getting into NAPS. So if you apply and dont get accepted, how to get into NAPS from there.
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It is up to USNA to offer NAPS or a sponsored USNA Foundation prep scholarship; it can’t be applied for. They offer it to those who they do not deem fully qualified but have potential, and would benefit from a year at NAPS or a prep school. Applicants are considered for NAPS/prep during the application process.

Of course, your daughter has to want to spend a minimum of five years in the Navy or Marine Corps after getting a B.S. degree.
 
For USCGA you will be offered CGAS, Coast Guard Academy Scholars program. Once accepted you will be able to submit a preference for which prep school to attends, NAPS, MMI or GMC.
 
If you get a congressional nomination but don't get a direct appointment, are the chances good for an appointment to a Prep School?
 
Ridgerunner said:
If you get a congressional nomination but don't get a direct appointment, are the chances good for an appointment to a Prep School?
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I don’t think the nomination has any effect on the chances for appointment to Prep. People are appointed with and without nominations, the decision is based on the qualities that the evaluation panel see in the candidate.
 
oldlooper said:
Trying to encourage my daughter to consider USNA or USCGA. She is wicked tough, but into art . Sophomore with 4.0
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Does DD have any interest in serving in USCG or USNA ?

It is fine for a Parent to help their children learn about the opportunities at a Service Academy, but "encouraging them to consider" when they don't have any interest, or desire to serve as an Officer in the military is a recipe for 4 miserable years. There is nothing worse than Plebe Summer when you don't want to be there ! Starting point for any interest in a Service Academy should be "I want to serve as an Officer in....[name your service], how do I get there." Seems to me if someone has that objective, then there is no need to "encourage them to consider" a Service Academy.,
 
Thanks for your sincere interest in how I should parent my daughter. I appreciate the harassment. Completely classless.
 
oldlooper said:
Thanks for your sincere interest in how I should parent my daughter. I appreciate the harassment. Completely classless.
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Wow. You came here asking for advice and you were given it. Old Navy BGO is absolutely correct, if your daughter isn’t interested in serving that should be the end of the journey. Too many times young adults attend one of the academies because it is what their parents want. In the vast majority of cases it doesn’t end happily, most of them drop out within the first 2 years, some drop out in the first couple of weeks. If your daughter isn’t interested in serving then that should be then end of it.
 
Old Navy BGO said:
Does DD have any interest in serving in USCG or USNA ?

It is fine for a Parent to help their children learn about the opportunities at a Service Academy, but "encouraging them to consider" when they don't have any interest, or desire to serve as an Officer in the military is a recipe for 4 miserable years. There is nothing worse than Plebe Summer when you don't want to be there ! Starting point for any interest in a Service Academy should be "I want to serve as an Officer in....[name your service], how do I get there." Seems to me if someone has that objective, then there is no need to "encourage them to consider" a Service Academy.,
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Useful general statement that underscores the importance of applicants doing the work to develop the desire and understanding to enter an environment like a SA and commit to the years of active duty service that follow - the two-way fit and affinity are critical elements in the decision. Mids and cadets arrive at an SA doorstep either independently or with an initial steer from family or friends or teachers, but the happiest path is when they know themselves to have found their place and their people.
 
oldlooper said:
Thanks for your sincere interest in how I should parent my daughter. I appreciate the harassment. Completely classless.
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Everyone has right to their opinion. I didn't see the comments from @Old Navy BGO to be harassing or classless. I think he has a great point in asking some great questions as to what your DD's interest are and how as a parent we can help them find these answers and path. It's all about guidance. @Old Navy BGO has served the SAF well with his valuable insights. My DD and I are a great testimony to that.
 
Oldlooper...I have always found this site to be very helpful so you might be taking the previous comment the wrong way. A lot of knowledgeable people who have been there and done that and who can provide some great guidance. It's been a long 2020...let's all take a deep breath and have a Happy New Year!!!
 
Thank you all for your input, but lets agree on one thing, its my daughter and its her life.

You all may have previous academy or military experience, I do not, but I know my child and how great a person she is and how much potential she has in life.

The idea of applying is still getting off the ground, my daughter will make that decision on her own and for herself. Applying to AIM next year is the objective, but the College selection process is her decision, what the next step is AND where, she will let me know- not the other way around.

She did say that the academy looks cool, but Its worth noting the 2019 sexual assault report released is a real concern of hers, and that of my wife. Sorry if that offends any of you, but I did explain to my daughter that stuff happens all over the USA in college and that abuse stuff is being eliminated at the academies. We did discuss the majors and the missions, the rest is up to her.

So collectively, cool your jets about me forcing something on my kid. She will decide what's best for her and why.

Truly, as Mrs. Gallagher said to me, while I worked in her kitchen, almost 16 years ago, the day after my daughter was born " Patrick, you never stop being a parent".

Thanks for your concern
 
oldlooper said:
Thanks for your sincere interest in how I should parent my daughter. I appreciate the harassment. Completely classless.
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@oldlooper, I don’t think this was an indictment by @Old Navy BGO or anyone else on your parenting skills. All parents encourage their children in one way or another just as you are. Regarding my own children, when I was overseas, one informed me he was going to go study business in San Diego. My encouragement was “Good for you”. Another told me she wanted to study theatre arts. Not quite what I wanted to hear but “Good for you” was our response (she later changed her major). A few years after that, one told me he wanted apply to USNA. I said: “Good for you, go to the usna.edu website and figure out if that’s what you really want to do”. I then had him talk to a BGO. Keep encouraging your child so that she'll thrive in whatever her chosen path may be after high school. That's what parents do. Happy New Year to you and her.
 
oldlooper said:
Trying to encourage my daughter to consider USNA or USCGA. She is wicked tough, but into art . Sophomore with 4.0

Stupid question I have is getting into NAPS. So if you apply and dont get accepted, how to get into NAPS from there.
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Is your DD interested in other service academies and you are interested in expanding her vision to include other service academies? Or are you looking at creating an interest in the academies as an option all together...?

I think this is a great question... I would say to take your DD to visit the service academies... Touring the academies and getting a glimpse into the life of a cadet/cadet candidate (what preppies are called at USAFA Prep School) will definitely get her excited if she has service in her heart... :) USAFA did self guided tours (prior to COVID) and had an annual tour that allowed you to get a deeper view of the academy and the types of activities, academics... dorm room your DD would be a part of... This is a great way to garner excitement from your DD if she feels an alignment with the school.

Due to COVID (even before - if I am honest) there are also videos on the website that can be viewed... navigate those websites/pages and see if there is anything there that would interest her... my DS went in March of his sophomore year — and honestly found an interest he did not know he had - ‘jumping’... he was very excited about the opportunity of jumping out of planes... whereas, prior - his thoughts were mainly about flying them. :)
 
oldlooper said:
Stupid question I have is getting into NAPS. So if you apply and dont get accepted, how to get into NAPS from there.
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So I responded to your first question and did not touch on the second... the prep school for the academies... there is not a secondary application process for the prep school. Each academy your DD applies to will automatically identify if your DD needs an extra year to prepare for the rigor of the SA... often times this is done based on an academies interest in what this candidate offers their program - however, with the lens that they are just not quite ready for some reason. (BTW, these reasons vary - academics, athletics, leadership, maturity... :))

Don’t know for certain, but I doubt any one on this forum is able to give you a “what are they looking for“ list that would make your DD/candidate more attractive for this path... it just happens. The prep options are through a scholarship with a prep certified prep school or the academies prep school - like NAPS, USMAPS or USAFAPS.... so options could vary again depending on the admissions panels view of what your DD/candidate might need to improve their chances of success at the SA.

Hope this helps!
 
College applicant here... I know there’s no logic behind the overall selection process for candidates receiving invitation to attend NAPS but I’m wondering what makes you more “interesting” in the eyes of the admissions board? All answers are greatly appreciated as we can all agree this has been NO easy process!
 
a_gerardoz said:
College applicant here... I know there’s no logic behind the overall selection process for candidates receiving invitation to attend NAPS but I’m wondering what makes you more “interesting” in the eyes of the admissions board? All answers are greatly appreciated as we can all agree this has been NO easy process!
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There is definitely a logic behind the selection process, we just aren’t privy to the logic.

What makes you more ‘interesting’ - ask yourself what sets you apart from the other applicants? In marketing terms what is your unique selling point?
 
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