Golden Handshake

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I have a Firstie who due to medical reasons, may not be able to Commission. We are still waiting to hear whether delayed graduation or golden handshake will be the end of his USNA journey. Is there anyone who has been through this? What does this mean for Commissioning Week events? Does he participate in the Grad/Com ceremony? Etc…
 
I have a Firstie who due to medical reasons, may not be able to Commission. We are still waiting to hear whether delayed graduation or golden handshake will be the end of his USNA journey. Is there anyone who has been through this? What does this mean for Commissioning Week events? Does he participate in the Grad/Com ceremony? Etc…
If he is allowed to graduate but not commission, he will participate in everything, including Commissioning Day/graduation - except he will not take the oath. All his paperwork would be different too, as it would be a discharge and separation. He would be a member of the class same as any classmate he went through 4 years with, would come back for reunions, etc. It is bittersweet, but he would have the support of classmates. It happens.

If it is delayed graduation, there are usually two dates, August and December, when formal (but small) delayed graduations are held. USNA can actually decide to do this anytime - papers can be executed, take the oath, and the deed is done. All the surrounding ceremony is just to mark the occasion, but it technically isn’t required.

Best wishes for a successful outcome.
 
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No kidding. Best wishes for a successful outcome. That's a real gut-punch after spending four years training to become an officer.
Here's your diploma and here's your DD-214.

The silver lining is that he'll have a diploma from The United States Naval Academy. He won't be looking for a job very long. :)
 
If he is allowed to graduate but not commission, he will participate in everything, including Commissioning Day/graduation - except he will not take the oath. All his paperwork would be different too, as it would be a discharge and separation. He would be a member of the class same as any classmate he went through 4 years with, would come back for reunions, etc. It is bittersweet, but he would have the support of classmates. It happens.

If it is delayed graduation, there are usually two dates, August and December, when formal (but small) delayed graduations are held. USNA can actually decide to do this anytime - papers can be executed, take the oath, and the deed is done. All the surrounding ceremony is just to mark the occasion, but it technically isn’t required.

Best wishes for a successful outcome.
Thank you Capt MJ- I was hoping you would respond. He is still unsure where his future lies as his medical issues are still not rectified...it is a work in progress. I can only pray that he is getting the best care possible. It is very difficult being so far away and only receiving limited information from him.
 
No kidding. Best wishes for a successful outcome. That's a real gut-punch after spending four years training to become an officer.
Here's your diploma and here's your DD-214.

The silver lining is that he'll have a diploma from The United States Naval Academy. He won't be looking for a job very long. :)
Gut-punch is the perfect way to put it...and it has been 5 years with a year at NAPS.
 
Thank you Capt MJ- I was hoping you would respond. He is still unsure where his future lies as his medical issues are still not rectified...it is a work in progress. I can only pray that he is getting the best care possible. It is very difficult being so far away and only receiving limited information from him.
I am going to post an image that has stayed with me for years, always helps me get perspective. MIDN Kevin Hillery graduated with the class of USNA 2012 but did not commission. He has gone on to a successful life. There was not a dry eye in the stadium that morning.

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Sorry you and your DS are going through this. I was close friends with a Mid from my class who was given the golden handshake, he wanted serve. We have been friends for decades now. He was a great Mid who would of been a great officer. His academic dept really surrounded him and helped him network to gain a junior engineer position in DC when this happened. He has worked for the govt since we graduated and has done very well. In many ways he feels like he has ‘given back’ with his decades long government service even though he did not commission.

A few years ago, I lived in DC and we had a bunch of young grads discharged in their first year of service for flight school and nuke drops (this was an anomaly). The DC Alumni Assoc held a bunch of mixers throughout the year to help them network, work on resumes, mentor and help them get interviews as they transitioned. If your DS ends up with a golden handshake, if he knows where he is going to land, reach out to the alumni network. Also, there is a Service Academy Career Conf held 4 or so times a year, he can attend as a grad. They hold workshops, can network and even interview. There are lots of govt agencies, private industry and grad schools there.

Good luck to him and your family. I wish him the best to get healthy, graduate and find the right place for him.
 
Along a similar line, Grads may get the Golden Handshake if they fail to complete their initial training post graduation. I ran into a young grad applying for a job at my law firm, he was only a few years out of USNA - not enough time to complete initial service obligation and go to law school. I sat down with him privately to ask him about this (nobody else at the firm would have known or understood), and found out he had DOR'd from flight school expecting to be able to go into another warfare community. However, Big Navy was overbooked on Ensigns that year, and gave him the Golden Handshake --commissioned with no where to go. He was a great kid, and would have loved to hire him.....but he decided to go elsewhere.

As Hoop's indicated., this is kind of an anomaly , as Big Navy can usually find a position for someone who hasn't completed their initial obligtion (and those billets may be less than desirable, so I would strongly discourage anyone from ever thinking they will avoid minimum service obligation by failing a training program).
 
I am going to post an image that has stayed with me for years, always helps me get perspective. MIDN Kevin Hillery graduated with the class of USNA 2012 but did not commission. He has gone on to a successful life. There was not a dry eye in the stadium that morning.

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wow!! just read about him online - he is an inspiration for sure!!!
 
I have a Firstie who due to medical reasons, may not be able to Commission. We are still waiting to hear whether delayed graduation or golden handshake will be the end of his USNA journey. Is there anyone who has been through this? What does this mean for Commissioning Week events? Does he participate in the Grad/Com ceremony? Etc…
your Firstie will be able to attend all Commissioning Week Events, it is also Graduation, and they’ve more than earned their place at the celebrations planned throughout the week. On Graduation Day, If Commissioning is delayed, your Mid will be with their Company, on the field, wearing their Dress Whites (even if they are pursuing a USMC Commmission.). When the Ensigns-to-be rise to take the Oath your Mid will remain seated, and if they’re pursuing the Marine Corps route, your Mid will remain seated during that oath. FYI, Your Mid will not be the only person sitting. (At my Mid’s Commissioning, there were many who remained seated, as their Commissioning was delayed). How many I couldn’t say, but more than I thought there’d be for sure. I noticed only because I was aware of the circumstances for a few of them. I wish your Mid good luck with whatever decision they ultimately make. But if they’re serious about fighting for their Commission, they can choose to pursue that route and if granted, can have their Commissioning ceremonies performed privately or en masse with the others who were also delayed.
 
your Firstie will be able to attend all Commissioning Week Events, it is also Graduation, and they’ve more than earned their place at the celebrations planned throughout the week. On Graduation Day, If Commissioning is delayed, your Mid will be with their Company, on the field, wearing their Dress Whites (even if they are pursuing a USMC Commmission.). When the Ensigns-to-be rise to take the Oath your Mid will remain seated, and if they’re pursuing the Marine Corps route, your Mid will remain seated during that oath. FYI, Your Mid will not be the only person sitting. (At my Mid’s Commissioning, there were many who remained seated, as their Commissioning was delayed). How many I couldn’t say, but more than I thought there’d be for sure. I noticed only because I was aware of the circumstances for a few of them. I wish your Mid good luck with whatever decision they ultimately make. But if they’re serious about fighting for their Commission, they can choose to pursue that route and if granted, can have their Commissioning ceremonies performed privately or en masse with the others who were also delayed.
Wouldn’t some of those that remain sitting be foreign exchange students? They wouldn’t be commissioning into the US Navy or Marines, correct?
 
Wouldn’t some of those that remain sitting be foreign exchange students? They wouldn’t be commissioning into the US Navy or Marines, correct?
Yes, the international students receive their diploma but do not take the oath. You will often see senior military/naval attachés in full dress uniforms doing private oaths with them afterwards. Most return to military service in their own country, some go into civilian govt service, some are allowed to continue to grad school on a student visa.
 
your Firstie will be able to attend all Commissioning Week Events, it is also Graduation, and they’ve more than earned their place at the celebrations planned throughout the week. On Graduation Day, If Commissioning is delayed, your Mid will be with their Company, on the field, wearing their Dress Whites (even if they are pursuing a USMC Commmission.). When the Ensigns-to-be rise to take the Oath your Mid will remain seated, and if they’re pursuing the Marine Corps route, your Mid will remain seated during that oath. FYI, Your Mid will not be the only person sitting. (At my Mid’s Commissioning, there were many who remained seated, as their Commissioning was delayed). How many I couldn’t say, but more than I thought there’d be for sure. I noticed only because I was aware of the circumstances for a few of them. I wish your Mid good luck with whatever decision they ultimately make. But if they’re serious about fighting for their Commission, they can choose to pursue that route and if granted, can have their Commissioning ceremonies performed privately or en masse with the others who were also delayed.
Marine graduates started wearing Marine uniforms to Commissioning some years ago. It shows the true nature of the dual-force class. A great decision. You can also see the classic woman’s bucket cover.

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Marine graduates started wearing Marine uniforms to Commissioning some years ago. It shows the true nature of the dual-force class. A great decision. You can also see the classic woman’s bucket cover.

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yes same during our Ceremony, but the Mid who chose to graduate and continue to appeal Medical waiver in pursuit of earning their Commission to USMC had to wear dress whites. they were a Naval Academy graduate but not a Commissioned officer in either branch.
 
Thank you all for your replies and support. He has been in touch with the Alumni Association about the Service Academy Career Conference that is taking place on May 5-6. Of course, one of those days he is having medical testing done and the other day he has an exam. He is still being registered with the program so he can put up his resume and perspective employers can reach out to him. He was told today that they will make a final decision on May 11 after all of his medical tests are completed. I ask humbly that you all keep him in your prayers.
 
Absolutely. Also, the SACC is really terrific -- trust me, there are many companies looking for someone like your son and that's why they come to these events to recruit.

ESPECIALLY in this market!! When DH graduated in the 80’s, he couldn't find a job. And worked nights at a gas station. My regular college son graduating in a week? Had to very, very generous offers. That he was able to negotiate to an even higher salary.

Prayers, for sure 🙏
 
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