How Do We Determine Who Nomination Is From?

dadof2018grad

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My DDs USNA web portal reads

Nomination Source State District Date Received
Congress/Senator 2 MO 14-DEC-2017

How do we determine if the nomination is from a Senator and if so which Missouri Senator? or if it was from our Congresswoman? The space under district is blank.

DD did not receive an email or letter from anyone. We appreciate your help.
 

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Usually Senator 1 is the more senior senator for your state.
 

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Not in my State!
 

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It's somewhat odd that you are learning of a nom first from your portal and not from the Senator's office.:rolleyes:
 

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My DD learned of hers through the portals first as well. Received a letter 3 days later. Also Carper is the senior senator but the code that came through would be for the junior senator #6 indicating senatorial nom and #2 indicating Junior senator. (he has not been the junior senator since Biden took VP office some 9 years ago) It would seem the codes are not reflective of the actual source and the only way to confirm is through the letter from the nominating source.
 

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I think #1 and #2 for Senators and seniority is highly nuanced...

I think a Senator who is #2 right now - was likely #2 at the time they were initially elected. They then retain that number until they are no longer serving.

In Texas - Senator Cornyn is Senator #2, but he is currently "senior" to Senator Cruz who is Senator #1.

Please don't take this a fact - It is my best guess.
 

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I think #1 and #2 for Senators and seniority is highly nuanced...

I think a Senator who is #2 right now - was likely #2 at the time they were initially elected. They then retain that number until they are no longer serving.

In Texas - Senator Cornyn is Senator #2, but he is currently "senior" to Senator Cruz who is Senator #1.

Please don't take this a fact - It is my best guess.

I think that's correct. Also in New York, Gillibrand is number 1 despite being the junior senator
 

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Not sure it really matters who issued the NOM. Where USNA eventually charges it could be different and you may never know.
 

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Hi, we are trying to figure this out too as DS received two nom's, one with notification and one without initially (have since received two letters from senators that he was nominated). SO, the interesting thing for him is that he ALSO received a 'guaranteed appointment' in his portal (with an email). We have waited a while to see whom to thank for the 'appointment', no word. I would think his 'appointment' would be attached to one of the nom's. DS reached out to his admissions adviser to see who his 'appointment' was from so he could thank them, and he was told 'based upon your file, not sure which one you were charged to, but both had you as a principal nom, so thank them both'.

Doesn't ONE of them claim him as their appointee, when he does sign?
 

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...DS reached out to his admissions adviser to see who his 'appointment' was from so he could thank them, and he was told 'based upon your file, not sure which one you were charged to, but both had you as a principal nom, so thank them both'...

Doesn't ONE of them claim him as their appointee, when he does sign?

As stated previously, only one of the MOCs will be charged with the nomination. Which one that is, will be decided by the Academy.
That's good advice though (thank them both!). After thanking them both, they might even volunteer the information.

I would also go so far as to say that if your DS hasn't thanked everyone who was involved with getting this appointment, he should get the paper, envelopes, and stamps out during Christmas Vacation. I'm sure there were a lot of people who helped (from writing stellar recommendation letters, to sending transcripts, to just offering support and encouragement) him realize this goal.
 

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If a MOC nominated him, that MOC WILL "claim" him regardless of where the academy actually charged him.

Press releases are hilarious in this regard.
 

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My DDs USNA web portal reads

Nomination Source State District Date Received
Congress/Senator 2 MO 14-DEC-2017

How do we determine if the nomination is from a Senator and if so which Missouri Senator? or if it was from our Congresswoman? The space under district is blank.

DD did not receive an email or letter from anyone. We appreciate your help.
I'm so glad you asked this question as my DS had a similar thing show up (so exciting!!) in his portal just today (Congress/Senator 1) from a different state. He had interviewed with one of the Senators and the Congressperson for our state so we weren't sure who it was from. Good to learn here what this means! We so appreciate this forum.
 

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As stated previously, only one of the MOCs will be charged with the nomination. Which one that is, will be decided by the Academy.

Yes I understand this....that’s why we are seeking out which one he is charged with. Bc we are curious.

Why did admissions respond that they ‘cannot tell by looking at his file which one he is charged to so thank them both for their principal nomination’? We HAVE heard back and this is what we were told. Maybe admissions doesn’t know the answer to this information? Maybe the MOC that’s charged will be notified. Maybe he has to accept first?

Are there further things that will happen officially that will make that clear?
I read about press releases....I can’t imagine both senators will say he is their appointee?
 

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As stated previously, only one of the MOCs will be charged with the nomination. Which one that is, will be decided by the Academy.

Yes I understand this....that’s why we are seeking out which one he is charged with. Bc we are curious.

Why did admissions respond that they ‘cannot tell by looking at his file which one he is charged to so thank them both for their principal nomination’? We HAVE heard back and this is what we were told. Maybe admissions doesn’t know the answer to this information? Maybe the MOC that’s charged will be notified. Maybe he has to accept first?

Are there further things that will happen officially that will make that clear?
I read about press releases....I can’t imagine both senators will say he is their appointee?

If you have the time and desire, you can find press releases with multiple senators/congressman claiming the same appointee...

I won't share links - they include names/hometowns/states etc.
 

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If you receive an appointment and went through the MOC nomination process, a kind note or phone call to the MOCs’ SA representative is a good idea...even if they didn’t nominate the candidate, they typically appreciate in hearing of the candidate’s success. It is also a time you can thank them for the work they do to help process all the packets.
 

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As stated previously, only one of the MOCs will be charged with the nomination. Which one that is, will be decided by the Academy.

Yes I understand this....that’s why we are seeking out which one he is charged with. Bc we are curious.

Why did admissions respond that they ‘cannot tell by looking at his file which one he is charged to so thank them both for their principal nomination’? We HAVE heard back and this is what we were told. Maybe admissions doesn’t know the answer to this information? Maybe the MOC that’s charged will be notified. Maybe he has to accept first?

Are there further things that will happen officially that will make that clear?
I read about press releases....I can’t imagine both senators will say he is their appointee?
The Academy may not actually know until the final class is selected. They can still be juggling people around, assigning them on-paper, to solve the puzzle as to how to get the class composition they want slated. Eventually it gets locked down. Appointments are/will be given now, that may not be declined until May 1st and then they have to reshuffle again. Eventually it gets locked down. After they report to the academy, the Midshipman/Cadet can request there file to find out. So, yes, have your DS thank all nomination sources now. He can find out later who the Academy decided to charge the appointment to.
 

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Exactly as USMAROTCFamily said...the class isn’t formally “charged” until AFTER I-day.
 

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DD had two nominations to Academy. We did not know her appointment source until we received a Capitol Flag dated graduation day from her Senator's Office after graduation. You may not ever know. They are not all "Charged" but all ten may get in.
 
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