How is CGA harder to get into than the other SA's?

To the promising applications out there: As I'm sure any cadet/midshipmen, active officer, veteran or retired member can tell you, you achieve success as a team. You put your trust in your classmates and they'll put their trust in you. The moment you make it clear your more concern about your own needs or your own success is the moment you erode some of that trust.

Some people already know this. Some figure it out eventually. And some will never get a clue.

Your cadre will pick up on it, but more importantly, your classmates will know. Either you're a shipmate or you're a slashmate.
 
If we go back and check out what you've said to other applicants, we can tell a few things. You take advice for granted. You have little respect for current cadets, active duty officers, veterans, retired officers/enlisted and parents.

People here have wasted time on you. I would recommend you not attend the Coast Guard Academy, but from what I've read from others, you're not planning to anyway.

You have an attitude problem that every cadet here has seen from problem swabs who often don't make it.

To review his latest PM floating around (the one where eveyrone is laughing at him):

  • His "CAP detachment" knows drill better than a US military academy--their skill and precision would but the academy to shame.
  • USCGA is a "stupid academy."
  • It's his duty to inform others about how sloppy the USCGA is.
  • He's going to be a REAL officer.
 
Why did you leave out that underage alcohol use is tolerated?
 
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Whoa!
You guys are not quoting things on the public page that have been sent in private messages are you? That would be hitting below the belt. However since I now believe Iceman2018 is a woman, it won't be as effective as you hope.
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Know what you call a bossy woman? A leader.
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Why did you leave out that underage alcohol use is tolerated?

You want examples at EVERY academy where use of alcohol by underage cadets has not resulted in disenrollment?

Just ask, I have many many examples.
 
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Whoa!
You guys are not quoting things on the public page that have been sent in private messages are you? That would be hitting below the belt.

As I did not quote anything but paraphrased it, I cannot agree with your perspective.

It's quite obvious that this poster is a troll.

In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
 
Why did you leave out that underage alcohol use is tolerated?

I believe it was "swabs use alcohol" not underage use.... which I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never heard of SWABS using alcohol.
 
Wow. This is something else. As someone with MANY coastie friends here at MMI, I have to say that they are some of the few on campus that I have the upmost respect for. In fact, I happen to be dating one! They bust their butts for appointments and know the meaning of teamwork. USCGA is certainly not something to be pushed aside. It's a great school just like any of the other academies. We pass around jokes to one another (I get the chair force one a lot.. Ha!), but that's supposed to be apart of the fun, nothing serious. I seriously hope this iceman does not plan on coming to USAFA. I have seen individuals here at MMI as well, and I have no tolerance- and man, do you get eaten alive.
Not to mention.. What exactly do you plan on doing when you ARE the subordinate, and someone tells you to do something you don't want to? Or you don't agree with them yelling at you for a mistake you've made? Are you going to tell them that they're pathetic for trying to correct correct you?
I wish you to best, but I hope that you can realize that you have weaknesses like everyone else, and can face them head on and lean on your shipmates or battle buddies once and a while, if you DO choose the academy route.
 
Thank God, they finally Banned this kid, troll, adult, or whatever they are.

Semper Paratus
 
I hope that kid shows up here, I'll be meeting them on the bus on R-Day.

The rest of my Cadre section and I will have a choice few things to say during Swab Summer if we ever figure out who that person is. ...like we're not watching these kinds of forums for people like that... crying shame.

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Thought I would try to get this badly derailed thread back on the tracks...

My DS applied to all five of the service academies. He got nominations from every interview he was invited to so had all the required nominations and for some academies had multiple nominations. His medical waiver was denied by USMMA even though he was recruited by them for a sport, waivers approved by USAFA, USCGA and USMA. He got the TWE from USAFA and USNA and got an appointment from West Point and Coast Guard. He selected USCGA. Why he got accepted to two and not the others, who knows? Different academies, while similar, are looking for different things and maybe it even varies from one year to the next. So is USCGA easier or harder to get into than the other academies? Can't answer that definitively. I do know that ALL the academies are difficult to get into and anyone that gets into and graduates from ANY academy certainly has something to be proud of. And I would also add that just because one of you isn't accepted does not mean you weren't qualified or are a less than stellar potential officer. We are very happy for our DS as he is doing what he aspired to and I'm convinced he will make a fine officer.
 
Thought I would try to get this badly derailed thread back on the tracks...

My DS applied to all five of the service academies. He got nominations from every interview he was invited to so had all the required nominations and for some academies had multiple nominations. His medical waiver was denied by USMMA even though he was recruited by them for a sport, waivers approved by USAFA, USCGA and USMA. He got the TWE from USAFA and USNA and got an appointment from West Point and Coast Guard. He selected USCGA. Why he got accepted to two and not the others, who knows? Different academies, while similar, are looking for different things and maybe it even varies from one year to the next. So is USCGA easier or harder to get into than the other academies? Can't answer that definitively. I do know that ALL the academies are difficult to get into and anyone that gets into and graduates from ANY academy certainly has something to be proud of. And I would also add that just because one of you isn't accepted does not mean you weren't qualified or are a less than stellar potential officer. We are very happy for our DS as he is doing what he aspired to and I'm convinced he will make a fine officer.

Thank you for getting this tread back on track :thumb:
 
Thought I would try to get this badly derailed thread back on the tracks...

My DS applied to all five of the service academies. He got nominations from every interview he was invited to so had all the required nominations and for some academies had multiple nominations. His medical waiver was denied by USMMA even though he was recruited by them for a sport, waivers approved by USAFA, USCGA and USMA. He got the TWE from USAFA and USNA and got an appointment from West Point and Coast Guard. He selected USCGA. Why he got accepted to two and not the others, who knows? Different academies, while similar, are looking for different things and maybe it even varies from one year to the next. So is USCGA easier or harder to get into than the other academies? Can't answer that definitively. I do know that ALL the academies are difficult to get into and anyone that gets into and graduates from ANY academy certainly has something to be proud of. And I would also add that just because one of you isn't accepted does not mean you weren't qualified or are a less than stellar potential officer. We are very happy for our DS as he is doing what he aspired to and I'm convinced he will make a fine officer.

All good points. We have to remember that what makes a good candidate at any service academy, probably makes them a good candidate at every service academy. But there are also limited spots available. Of course, places like USCGA, USNA and USMMA have some extra issues with color-blindness too. But if you're good enough to get into USAFA, you're probably good enough to get into USMA. At times it probably feels like a matter of luck; did everything line up like you needed it to?

I think these are the kinds of questions cadets and midshipmen don't lose sleep over. As a cadet at CGA, I couldn't care less if people thought USNA was harder or USMMA was harder. Getting through my school, at the moment, was hard enough, and all I cared to focus on.

Who does this question often matter to? Candidates. Interested high school students. Parents. And sometimes alumni. But for cadets and midshipmen, it doesn't matter.
 
Can't expect to get an objective answer to this question from any Academy graduate. It would be expected that a product of one would endorse their school as the best or the toughest to get into. US News and Princeton Review ranks the Service Academies together with the civilian colleges and universities but it doesn't take into consideration that Military Academy applicants have to obtain more than just stellar GPAs, SAT/ACT scores or write a convincing essay to get admitted. I believe that the top civilian universities may rank higher than any Military Academy but the latter is much more difficult to get accepted into. Applicants that are accepted to any Military Academy may also get accepted to top civilian universities but not the other way around. To determine which Military Academy is toughest? They all are!
 
Can't expect to get an objective answer to this question from any Academy graduate. It would be expected that a product of one would endorse their school as the best or the toughest to get into. US News and Princeton Review ranks the Service Academies together with the civilian colleges and universities but it doesn't take into consideration that Military Academy applicants have to obtain more than just stellar GPAs, SAT/ACT scores or write a convincing essay to get admitted. I believe that the top civilian universities may rank higher than any Military Academy but the latter is much more difficult to get accepted into. Applicants that are accepted to any Military Academy may also get accepted to top civilian universities but not the other way around. To determine which Military Academy is toughest? They all are!

Not to mention there is a bigger picture to factor in to the decision. You aren't just picking a school because it looks good on paper. Remember, you have to serve after those initial four years.

"I want to be a West Point grad, it's the oldest and the best." Ok, well, remember, you have to be in the Army. If you don't want to be in the Army, you probably shouldn't go to west point.

"I want to be an Annapolis grad. It's the best." Ok, well, hope you like ships.. or at least being around people that do, because there's a good chance that's where you'll go.

Above the desk in my office at work is a Coast Guard Academy degree. I think it looks good there. But to be able to put it up on that wall, I had to serve, at a minum, five years in the Coast Guard after graduation. If I didn't want to do that it would have been a horrible idea to attend CGA... even if people do think about "life after military service."
 
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