How to get into the Naval Academy c/o 2027

Gobsmacked

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Our son has received something of a setback with DODMerb due to reporting a positive Covid test from 4 months ago. Seeing his "Qualified" status revoked and changed to "Remedial" has caused us to reflect on the path he has taken to get to an Appointment and also the now very real possibility that his plans A,B and C (all appointed or accepted) are potentially off the table and a plan D has to be identified and pursued. You hear about this possibility but man it is hard to imagine once that BFE is in your hands, everything seems just a little brighter with maybe a slight golden sheen until it all comes crashing down. The roller coaster is real!

I thought I would start a thread to give C/O 2027 some hope, encouragement and maybe some tips we learned from this cycle that may help them in the next cycle. Things that are other than get good grades/SAT/ACT and the things that can be found on the class profile.

1. Don"t test positive for covid.;)
2. Do not let anyone discourage you. We live in a very small community 15 minutes from a small town, which is 30 minutes from a medium sized city which is 30 minutes from a large city. Son's high school is known for football and not much else, the matriculation rate lately has been around 30-40%. We are in the congressional district with a joint base and several very impressive private high schools (near or at 100% matriculation rates). Reps from both USNA and USMA told son that the district was often the most competitive in the state due to those factors. The counselors at his high school knew nothing about SA but had "heard that maybe a couple of kids went to the USAFA a number of years ago".

I can't think of anyone other than his mother, me, his aunt and uncle and his football coaches that ever said "you can do it". (He is not a recruited athlete BTW)

Every other person in his life said some variation of:
"Be realistic, no one gets in."
"Ha! you should save yourself the heartache and apply to ROTC"
"You are competing with all of those Colonel's kids and the kids from the private schools, no way."
Even the Navy Recruiter we saw at an airshow said "son, its probably not going to happen but good luck." He was in 9th grade at the time.

He has never wavered, not once, from "I am going to the Naval Academy" Well...maybe for a little while after getting rejected to Summer Seminar at the same time that West Point was really showing interest in him but he always came back to "I am going to the Naval Academy"

We have always said "Focus on today, right now, the task at hand, do the best you can today. Be the obvious choice and make them tell you no."

3. Practice interviewing. The MOC staffer that spoke to son after his nom/appointment was very forthcoming with the fact that the reason he was given a principal nom was his interview. Just practice and learn to be comfortable in a situation with 5 or 6 adults sitting across from you asking random questions. It will benefit you when the time comes.

4. Be early. To everything. From appointments to deadlines.

5. Summer Seminar doesn't matter. Being rejected hurt. It felt like it was a prelude of what was to come. He was pretty crushed and confused for a bit. In the end IT DID NOT MATTER.

6. You are not getting an LOA so don't ask about it or worry about it. However, work as if you are competing for one.

7. Live a physically active lifestyle and add in pull-ups and push-ups.

8. Practice the CFA once in a while, starting now. It is designed to smoke you. Practice it the same way you would take it and see where you are. Son was in pretty good shape from wrestling last year but it shocked him the first time he stacked all of the exercises together.

9. Get the CFA outta the way ASAP. Don't risk getting injured prior to taking the CFA.

10. Keep a positive attitude. If you get knocked down jump back up and get after it.

11. Don't be lazy. THe answer is yes you need to put in the effort...whatever it is.

Remember despite all of the naysayers, 1200 ish candidates get in every year and they are from every state in the union. Way better odds than the lottery!

You can do it.
 
Don't stress on what is out of your control, my DS had COVID after accepting his appointment to USNA. Not going to lie it did stress us a bit but it all worked out and he is a Plebe at USNA 2025.
 
Great advice! I’m sure Mr. Mullen will jump in but Im pretty sure I recall him saying nobody gets DQ’d due to getting Covid..
Thanks! Mr. Mullen is aware and the process is being followed. It will likely turn out fine, we have no reason to believe it won't at this point. I wouldn't think to contradict Mr. Mullen but if you are a candidate you may want to read the guidance on DOD Covid policy on the DODMerb website. It appears that it could get pretty interesting if you test positive within a month of I day. We have no intention of gaining first hand experience with that!
 
Thanks! Mr. Mullen is aware and the process is being followed. It will likely turn out fine, we have no reason to believe it won't at this point. I wouldn't think to contradict Mr. Mullen but if you are a candidate you may want to read the guidance on DOD Covid policy on the DODMerb website. It appears that it could get pretty interesting if you test positive within a month of I day. We have no intention of gaining first hand experience with that!
Break out the bubble wrap around May 15? Noted. :cool:
 
@Gobsmacked your DS sounds like he had a similar upbringing to our DS. Small rural school, 25 minutes from home, 60 miles from a large city with an Air Force Base. Our house is 15 minutes from a small city with an Army base. Luckily, he had support from counselors, teachers, custodians, the American Legion, and a stellar recruiter. I was always on the fence in terms of how much support can I provide without providing false hope or expectations. It's a tough thin line to walk as a parent.

He too, said "I am going to the Naval Academy", but he had fear and doubts, and denial to Summer Seminar was a whammy as well. But, it didn't affect his candidacy as an applicant. Nominations were sought and he was so apprehensive, he didn't think he would earn them. He met other applicants who were athletes and attended swanky STEM private schools. He really thought he was not going to earn a nomination. He was stunned to be named a principle nom by a Senator. The panels know what they are looking for. They don't care whether you are rich, poor, connected, from a big town or small.

We did bubble wrap him for a month prior to IDay and since it was Covid 2020, he self-isolated prior to reporting and we were extra cautious about bringing germs home.

Your post is great, good advice. Good luck to your son.
 
@Gobsmacked your DS sounds like he had a similar upbringing to our DS. Small rural school, 25 minutes from home, 60 miles from a large city with an Air Force Base. Our house is 15 minutes from a small city with an Army base. Luckily, he had support from counselors, teachers, custodians, the American Legion, and a stellar recruiter. I was always on the fence in terms of how much support can I provide without providing false hope or expectations. It's a tough thin line to walk as a parent.

He too, said "I am going to the Naval Academy", but he had fear and doubts, and denial to Summer Seminar was a whammy as well. But, it didn't affect his candidacy as an applicant. Nominations were sought and he was so apprehensive, he didn't think he would earn them. He met other applicants who were athletes and attended swanky STEM private schools. He really thought he was not going to earn a nomination. He was stunned to be named a principle nom by a Senator. The panels know what they are looking for. They don't care whether you are rich, poor, connected, from a big town or small.

We did bubble wrap him for a month prior to IDay and since it was Covid 2020, he self-isolated prior to reporting and we were extra cautious about bringing germs home.

Your post is great, good advice. Good luck to your son.
It is a fine line you have to walk, encourage and support but then bring in backup plans! They seem contradictory to 17-year-old minds.

Honestly, due to all the naysayers, we thought he would be lucky just to make it on a single slate. He had pretty impressive stats for his local peer group but when you add in the unknowns up in the city...I was pretty sure he was going to spend a year at his plan C, I kept that to myself though.
 
Our son has received something of a setback with DODMerb due to reporting a positive Covid test from 4 months ago. Seeing his "Qualified" status revoked and changed to "Remedial" has caused us to reflect on the path he has taken to get to an Appointment and also the now very real possibility that his plans A,B and C (all appointed or accepted) are potentially off the table and a plan D has to be identified and pursued. You hear about this possibility but man it is hard to imagine once that BFE is in your hands, everything seems just a little brighter with maybe a slight golden sheen until it all comes crashing down. The roller coaster is real!

I thought I would start a thread to give C/O 2027 some hope, encouragement and maybe some tips we learned from this cycle that may help them in the next cycle. Things that are other than get good grades/SAT/ACT and the things that can be found on the class profile.

1. Don"t test positive for covid.;)
2. Do not let anyone discourage you. We live in a very small community 15 minutes from a small town, which is 30 minutes from a medium sized city which is 30 minutes from a large city. Son's high school is known for football and not much else, the matriculation rate lately has been around 30-40%. We are in the congressional district with a joint base and several very impressive private high schools (near or at 100% matriculation rates). Reps from both USNA and USMA told son that the district was often the most competitive in the state due to those factors. The counselors at his high school knew nothing about SA but had "heard that maybe a couple of kids went to the USAFA a number of years ago".

I can't think of anyone other than his mother, me, his aunt and uncle and his football coaches that ever said "you can do it". (He is not a recruited athlete BTW)

Every other person in his life said some variation of:
"Be realistic, no one gets in."
"Ha! you should save yourself the heartache and apply to ROTC"
"You are competing with all of those Colonel's kids and the kids from the private schools, no way."
Even the Navy Recruiter we saw at an airshow said "son, its probably not going to happen but good luck." He was in 9th grade at the time.

He has never wavered, not once, from "I am going to the Naval Academy" Well...maybe for a little while after getting rejected to Summer Seminar at the same time that West Point was really showing interest in him but he always came back to "I am going to the Naval Academy"

We have always said "Focus on today, right now, the task at hand, do the best you can today. Be the obvious choice and make them tell you no."

3. Practice interviewing. The MOC staffer that spoke to son after his nom/appointment was very forthcoming with the fact that the reason he was given a principal nom was his interview. Just practice and learn to be comfortable in a situation with 5 or 6 adults sitting across from you asking random questions. It will benefit you when the time comes.

4. Be early. To everything. From appointments to deadlines.

5. Summer Seminar doesn't matter. Being rejected hurt. It felt like it was a prelude of what was to come. He was pretty crushed and confused for a bit. In the end IT DID NOT MATTER.

6. You are not getting an LOA so don't ask about it or worry about it. However, work as if you are competing for one.

7. Live a physically active lifestyle and add in pull-ups and push-ups.

8. Practice the CFA once in a while, starting now. It is designed to smoke you. Practice it the same way you would take it and see where you are. Son was in pretty good shape from wrestling last year but it shocked him the first time he stacked all of the exercises together.

9. Get the CFA outta the way ASAP. Don't risk getting injured prior to taking the CFA.

10. Keep a positive attitude. If you get knocked down jump back up and get after it.

11. Don't be lazy. THe answer is yes you need to put in the effort...whatever it is.

Remember despite all of the naysayers, 1200 ish candidates get in every year and they are from every state in the union. Way better odds than the lottery!

You can do it.
Hey! What are you writing as this is a no?! It is a yes! And they will just review the file (medical) and that’s it. I have hope and your DS is in my prayers. See you June 30
 
Hey! What are you writing as this is a no?! It is a yes! And they will just review the file (medical) and that’s it. I have hope and your DS is in my prayers. See you June 30
You are correct! A positive attitude is very important.

I think between the whirlwind of a Nom/Appointment WAY sooner than anyone expected, it was easy to fall into a mindset of "Well he is good to go now let's focus on other things like figuring out what we are going to do as empty nesters." (BTW that term is supposed to be for 'old' people, not sure how exactly we are soon to be that!) None of us ever even considered something like having COVID months ago, or any other health type issue potentially derailing the train. Injury, yes every football game and wrestling match it was in the back of our minds, Covid with almost no symptoms months ago? Never crossed our minds. Until the letter came with words like "Not qualified for accession" in it that is!

I think the lesson for us and what I would recommend to any applicant now is have at least ONE contingency plan that doesn't require qualifying to DOD medical standards...just in case. Our son didn't, all of his plans had a pinch point of DODMerb and since he qualified last July the focus was just on not getting injured. In hindsight, this was a potentially serious oversite.
 
We dropped DD off at USAFA during a cross country move, her younger brothers went white water rafting while in CO. She didn't go in fear that she would get injured. She spent her last senior year being extra, extra cautious with COVID while competing in a high injury sport, the last thing she wanted to do was not make it to I-day after a year of being bubble wrapped. Now I say that she's there, go for it all! (Although DH does know a classmate that was injured in a skiing accident and wasn't able to complete USCGA, after 2 years, so it does happen, but is more rare)
 
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