how to prepare for us naval academy as a 9th grader?

@ArmyOfOne81 provides a very helpful example. Very impressed with all his son is doing. Not a reflection at all of his son’s actions, but some important clarifications:

2. President of a High School Club and Treasurer of another High School Club.
It’s not enough to hold a title or win an election. Often, elections are simply popularity contests. What’s more important is that you show “leadership impact,” i.e. actual actions you took to make the organization better.

3. Honors, AP and dual enrollment college classes. Check with your local community college or University to see if you can get some college courses under your belt.
USNA likes candidates who take the hardest classes their school has to offer — especially in STEM and English — and excel at them. Your transcript will be reviewed alongside your school’s profile, so USNA knows what classes are offered. There’s no expectation that you go beyond what your school offers, because not everyone has the wherewithal to take college courses while in high school.

6. My DS volunteered as much as he could.
USNA does not give points for volunteer hours. A volunteer leadership position is good. But simply volunteer hours — nothing for that. Though it may be something good for a MOC nomination.

As @ArmyOfOne81 says: Don’t wait. Get on it early.
 
@ArmyOfOne81 provides a very helpful example. Very impressed with all his son is doing. Not a reflection at all of his son’s actions, but some important clarifications:


It’s not enough to hold a title or win an election. Often, elections are simply popularity contests. What’s more important is that you show “leadership impact,” i.e. actual actions you took to make the organization better.


USNA likes candidates who take the hardest classes their school has to offer — especially in STEM and English — and excel at them. Your transcript will be reviewed alongside your school’s profile, so USNA knows what classes are offered. There’s no expectation that you go beyond what your school offers, because not everyone has the wherewithal to take college courses while in high school.


USNA does not give points for volunteer hours. A volunteer leadership position is good. But simply volunteer hours — nothing for that. Though it may be something good for a MOC nomination.

As @ArmyOfOne81 says: Don’t wait. Get on it early.
My DS was not just preparing for the USNA when doing all of this so yes some of this may not necessarily apply if your only goal is USNA. He was also trying to be prepared for the ROTC selection and college admissions process.

He was selected as one of the ten NOMs given out by our Sen and for one of the five NOMs given out by our MOC. Our Sen stated that he had over 200 applicants. His interviews went smoothly and he was prepared for all questions.

My DS has not been appointed but I believe he is at least competitive at this point. He has been accepted to the 5 schools he applied to and has received an AROTC Scholarship to three of them and he has selected The Citadel.

I’m very proud of the effort he has put into this over 5 years in high school, honestly I don’t think he could have done more.
 
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Follow @MidCakePa … collectively, this subjects best advice on SA forums.

“What’s unsaid” by you will be the determining factor at this point going forward …. It’s what you do that matters.

Stay constructive and your teachers and mentors will say and write good things about you.

Keep the dream alive …
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Taking this one doesn’t report scores. I don’t believe PSAT does either. But it can prep you for the PSAT 11 which I believe is where a stellar score marks you as a National Merit Scholar.

There are several schools of thought. Too much testing is going to lead to a plateau score wise. I tend to agree. But if you take it early and see the format and learn testing tactics, you can reduce test anxiety and increase the effectiveness of test prep for the actual SAT.

Just my opinion.

My kid didn't want usna but wanted marine nrotc at a specific college. I made him research the "average" qualifications (NOT THE MINIMUMS!!!) Of those accepted and make a chart for where he would stand up against the "typical" successful candidate for MO NROTC scholarship and his school of choice. I then had him fill in (in pencil) where he was in reference to each category and a timeline of progress/goals in each. The categories were:

Academics: GPA, class rank, and difficulty (AP/honors, math english science, history, foreign language). USNA is heavy on STEM so don't sandbag that in high school.

SAT ACT scores: Schedule multiple tests and study/practice. This means a long-term commitment for test prep. Taking first tests as soon as you can your junior year demonstrates you actually care and are serious.

Teacher/coach evals: Are you behaved, attentive, helpful to the teacher and other students? Who will you ask for evals from?

Physical Fitness: Get in the best all-around shape you can and test yourself against whatever tests you will have to take regularly. Make fitness a part of your life. This is so important it cannot be overstated. So many kids on this forum get rejected because they didn't put in the effort or waited until the last minute to care. The military has no interest in making people like that officers so get on it! NOW!

Athletics: Play a couple of sports every year and make at least one of them a passion where you make varsity. Statistically, very, very few go to academies or get rotc scholarships without a varsity letter. If you varsity in a non-major sport, make sure you are A. The Captain, and B. Maxing your physical fitness test scores.

Leadership: Be on student council, team captain. Join jrotc or, if not available, find a civil air patrol unit and climb the ladder there. Club president or officers are nice. Boys/Girls State is nice. Reach out to fellow students you see who are having social , personal, or academic issues. Stick up for anyone being bullied. Dvelop and demonstrate active leadership.

Extra Curriculars and Community Service: be involved in a variety of activities. NHS, 4H, robotics club. Volunteer at church or fund raisers. Debate and forensics are great....they'll teach you public speaking and how to think on your feet. Have at least one interesting hobby that doesn't involve a PS4.

Social: Have wide friend groups. This means being open to kids you wouldnt necessarily instinctively seek out as friends. Stay out of trouble or being around kids who are in trouble. Seek out achievers and good kids for your inner circle. This is part of academics, too. Study with friends who can help you on topics you find difficult and return the favor to others.

Other: Have moral courage and demonstrate unflinching integrity. This matters most when it is most difficult and is a non-negotiable. Read, Read, Read! Make reading outside of school a habit. This does not mean watching videos. It will improve your test scores, your knowledge, your comprehension and lots of other good stuff. Whenever I interview someone I always ask them what is the last book they read and what are they reading now. When I get that deer in the headlights look from them it really makes my decision easier.

Practice for your interviews and take your time writing your essays. Take a couple days between essay editing/rewrites and repeat this several times. You'll be amazed how much you will improve your essay from the original if you plan multiple reviews.

Research everything you can about the process and pay attention to details. Do things early, never just "on time". Have your own administrative checklist/timeline.

Talk to your parents often and ask for their help and feedback. Teachers, coaches, mentors, too.

Ask questions and reach out for help. Find a knowledgeable mentor. This ideally is a grad of where you want to go or maybe a retired or active officer. The local recruiter and your neighbor who did two years as a private probably wont give you the fidelity you need as you seek a commission. Don't be shy and that includes the intimidating admissions liaisons who you are worried about making a good impression on. Everyone, including complete strangers, wants you to succeed!

One last thing. We all have strengths and weaknesses. You have to honestly and often painfully evaluate yourself. It is super easy to focus on our strengths and ignore our weaknesses. The real challenge and test of character is to attack our weaknesses even when it is the last thing you want to do and feels awful.

This is a lot and sounds hard. It is. That's what is expected of you. But it's worth it and if you organize yourself and have a plan, you'll get there! Best of luck!
Forgot to mention part-time work is good, as well. Also others mentioned you can take SAT/PSAT earlier than junior year.
 
@ArmyOfOne81 provides a very helpful example. Very impressed with all his son is doing. Not a reflection at all of his son’s actions, but some important clarifications:


It’s not enough to hold a title or win an election. Often, elections are simply popularity contests. What’s more important is that you show “leadership impact,” i.e. actual actions you took to make the organization better.


USNA likes candidates who take the hardest classes their school has to offer — especially in STEM and English — and excel at them. Your transcript will be reviewed alongside your school’s profile, so USNA knows what classes are offered. There’s no expectation that you go beyond what your school offers, because not everyone has the wherewithal to take college courses while in high school.


USNA does not give points for volunteer hours. A volunteer leadership position is good. But simply volunteer hours — nothing for that. Though it may be something good for a MOC nomination.

As @ArmyOfOne81 says: Don’t wait. Get on it early.
School elections are popularity contests, very true, and they don't reflect leadership per se. However, it isn't a bad thing to admissions officers when your peers vote for you.
 
I don't want to diminish the fire in someone who just got a NAPS appointment but you are giving out some bad gouge.
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RECRUITERS are there to get people to ENLIST. Pilots are officers and Navy Recruiters who are very fine folks are not well
trained nor equipped to guide young people toward officer programs. I've been involved in Service Academy Admissions
for a very long time and you need to trust me on this one.
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Secondly, Community Service Hours count ZERO in the eyes of the Admissions Board. There are "Whole Person Multiple" points for
many things and Community service groups are among them but specific hours are not recognized nor rewarded. Being a leader in a Community Service is viewed just like being a leader in any number of groups or organizations.
NOTE: SOME Congressmen/Senators DO consider Community Service in their nomination process and you should be able to find out the specifics as you research your personal nomination needs. For what its worth, I've yet to see a high school junior who has National Honor Society and/or Scouts that did not have at least acceptable (to the Congressional Committee) levels of Community Service just from those groups alone.
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Admissions Forums are great places to ask but the USNA.EDU website has advice for prospective applicants.
Start there and Good Luck!
My answers are from my perspective.

Back in 2019 a recruiter told me the best way of becoming an officer which was The Naval Academy. I got a lot of info that I couldn’t get easily on internet, and It was really useful!

Also, having a lot of community service demonstrated my ability of team work, organizing time, leadership, and moving people to get it done.
Like you said, it’s viewed as being a leader like any other org/ team, etc. But if a 9th grader is asking for help on what to do I would recommend it as an option

I appreciate your service as a BGO for many years, you should help the 9th grader with some useful advice that he can use.
 
My answers are from my perspective.

Back in 2019 a recruiter told me the best way of becoming an officer which was The Naval Academy. I got a lot of info that I couldn’t get easily on internet, and It was really useful!

Also, having a lot of community service demonstrated my ability of team work, organizing time, leadership, and moving people to get it done.
Like you said, it’s viewed as being a leader like any other org/ team, etc. But if a 9th grader is asking for help on what to do I would recommend it as an option

I appreciate your service as a BGO for many years, you should help the 9th grader with some useful advice that he can use.
Clearly your prospective is the real gouge. I truly hope that NAPS realizes how valuable your personal perspective is
and allows you to share it with your peers.

I had over ten years as a member of my area Recruiting Council and my personal Ribbon Rack includes the Navy Recruiting Award but
yield to your perspective. Seriously, I worked side by side with Navy Recruiters for much longer than you have been on this earth and
have seen far more USNA candidates sent in WRONG directions than steered correctly by recruiters. By the way, that group of candidates
steered wrongly includes both me and my son.

Same with your perspective on Community Service. I have the slides/notes from BGO training and clearly they are missing the
importance of Community Service.
 
Clearly your prospective is the real gouge. I truly hope that NAPS realizes how valuable your personal perspective is
and allows you to share it with your peers.

I had over ten years as a member of my area Recruiting Council and my personal Ribbon Rack includes the Navy Recruiting Award but
yield to your perspective. Seriously, I worked side by side with Navy Recruiters for much longer than you have been on this earth and
have seen far more USNA candidates sent in WRONG directions than steered correctly by recruiters. By the way, that group of candidates
steered wrongly includes both me and my son.

Same with your perspective on Community Service. I have the slides/notes from BGO training and clearly they are missing the
importance of Community Service.
< awkward silence >

oldSWO, I hope you have learned your lesson! Nothing more helpful than getting a good lecture from someone who's parents are still paying off their credit card bills! ;)

JuddUSNA,
Please try this with your SENIOR officers and let us know how it goes! I don't know much about Navy culture, but in my culture you would currently be hanging from a crucifix. I am guessing the Navy is pretty similar. Although I think they like yardarms and keelhauling.
 
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Someone is in for a rude awakening when they report ...... Too bad it isn't to Ft. Benning or Parris Island. Would be a better wake up call.

Humility, open-mindedness, and a bit of class go a long way to success. Many here have been there, done that, got the tee-shirt, and wore it out until a new one had to be issued. It doesn't hurt to listen and maybe learn things from them.
 
My answers are from my perspective

Simply calling your statements “my perspective” or “my opinion” does not make them correct. If you post incorrect information it will be called out by the people with decades of experience in admissions.
The moderators and all of the other highly experienced volunteers on this forum owe it to the candidates to present the most accurate information.
You have posted bad gouge on several threads here and have been corrected. Learning from that will be good self-development for your journey through USNA.

Stealth_81
 
Simply calling your statements “my perspective” or “my opinion” does not make them correct. If you post incorrect information it will be called out by the people with decades of experience in admissions.
The moderators and all of the other highly experienced volunteers on this forum owe it to the candidates to present the most accurate information.
You have posted bad gouge on several threads here and have been corrected. Learning from that will be good self-development for your journey through USNA.

Stealth_81
Thank you, Stealth. Yours is the voice of a leader who has constructively and kindly coached “just a few” juniors.
 
Clearly your prospective is the real gouge. I truly hope that NAPS realizes how valuable your personal perspective is
and allows you to share it with your peers.

I had over ten years as a member of my area Recruiting Council and my personal Ribbon Rack includes the Navy Recruiting Award but
yield to your perspective. Seriously, I worked side by side with Navy Recruiters for much longer than you have been on this earth and
have seen far more USNA candidates sent in WRONG directions than steered correctly by recruiters. By the way, that group of candidates
steered wrongly includes both me and my son.

Same with your perspective on Community Service. I have the slides/notes from BGO training and clearly they are missing the
importance of Community Service.
You do you man. I am just trying to help people
 
My answers are from my perspective.

Back in 2019 a recruiter told me the best way of becoming an officer which was The Naval Academy. I got a lot of info that I couldn’t get easily on internet, and It was really useful!
Congrats on your appointment to NAPS. I'm going to tell you that if this is still your line of thinking by the time you get to Annapolis and better yet you make it to the fleet, be ready. One recruiters opinion does not a fact make. I come from a serious USNA fanbase, love it, love what it means, what it's given to my family. But a good Navy is led by a diverse batch of officers with varying experiences and paths to commission and there is no "best way." You will very quickly be identified as "one of those Academy guys" and lose the respect of those around you. DH never wears his class ring to official functions other than Academy events and some of the best compliments he's received through his 20+ year career center around "oh you're an Academy guy? I wouldn't have guessed that."
 
Congrats on your appointment to NAPS. I'm going to tell you that if this is still your line of thinking by the time you get to Annapolis and better yet you make it to the fleet, be ready. One recruiters opinion does not a fact make. I come from a serious USNA fanbase, love it, love what it means, what it's given to my family. But a good Navy is led by a diverse batch of officers with varying experiences and paths to commission and there is no "best way." You will very quickly be identified as "one of those Academy guys" and lose the respect of those around you. DH never wears his class ring to official functions other than Academy events and some of the best compliments he's received through his 20+ year career center around "oh you're an Academy guy? I wouldn't have guessed that."
Thank you I really appreciate you advice.
That is what I was trying to explain to the other people. That what I shared it was my experience from my perspective. That is what it worked for me and what took me to NAPS!
I never tried to say “this is the only way to get to USNA” because it’s clearly not! Haha

Thank you for sharing your husband’s story.
 
Sadly I didn't apply myself that much at all in 9th grade even though I had all this advice ended off the year with a 3.0 GPA which is pretty shameful to say the least. Hopefully this year I do better :(
 
Well, it’s a choice.

Apply yourself and do better. Don’t ‘hope’. Do it.

Learn from your downfalls/shortcomings/mistakes. No one is perfect, but it’s important to learn from our struggles.
 
That is what it worked for me and what took me to NAPS!
One data point doesn't make a rule...
I think I've found the answer to the age old question of what's scarier than an Ensign starting at statement with "Based on my experience....."

Seriously, to OP ...there is some good gouge on SAF, and some not so good gouge. There is an old saying at USNA , live by the gouge, die by the gouge. Always rely on official sources whenever possible (end everything you really need to know is on the USNA.edu website) and apply a filter to everything you see on the internet...some is good, some bad, and some in between. Always consider the source of information.. Good luck to you ...Middle school is a good time to start the journey --while you have the chance to set your goals and course to achieving them. To often I see candidates start thinking about USNA and college choices the second semester of Junior year....by that time your record is established and there is little we can do to help.
 
Alright then, I think I know what to do, I'll try and join the basketball team sophomore year (since tryouts already ended and I didn't get in this year) and I will also try to get fit. Thank you for the advice
1) Talk to the coach about what skills you need to work on to be more competitive next year
2) Continue to play basketball in a rec or travel league

3) Perhaps be a manager for the team

I enjoy playing basketball, do I need to be the best in my team to become a captain
tain?

Generally to be a captain you need to show leadership ...sometimes that is associated with a role (e.g., Football QB is in a leadership role) and sometimes it is how you lead.
When I was in HS, I was the Varsity Goalie and a senior and was somewhat disappointed that I was not made Captain. When I played in college, they were just creating a Women's Soccer team and I was helping recruit as we needed to get enough players, helping those players who were athletic but not as good at soccer learn to kick correctly, etc. I was named Captain because I was showing leadership.. and I understood why I didn't not become Captain in HS.
 
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