I'm thinking of bailing

Plebe2be

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First off I want to say I've been on the forums for along time learning about noms and appointments. I was lucky enough to receive an appointment to the class of 2027 and I am now here in Annapolis for I-day on Thursday but honestly, like the title says, I'm thinking of bailing and going back home. I'm really worried that it's not what I expect, that I'm too young to choose something like this right now when I barely know anything about life! I don't understand what makes me special enough to ever lead people in warfighting. I'm scared I'm going to fail someone. I'm just really scared. I'm here alone because my parents don't really support my decision. I've been on here long enough to know some of you guys must have been scared before you started. What did you do about it? How did you get over it? How did you get over your doubts about your ability to handle the challenges and be good enough to lead people?

Thanks. I just don't know where else to ask for help.
 
Feeling cold feet is normal, you are not the only one feeling like this and you will be fine. You earn your spot because admissions believes in you and they are willing to invest in your future. No one is really ready but you can do this!
 
What a disgraceful post. When you leave, on Thursday there will be an empty chair because you took a spot from someone who actually wanted to be there.
Uh, no. Hard no! Very hard no!

OP didn’t take a spot from anyone. They earned it. And USNA gave them that spot because it believes they have what it takes to be a successful midshipman and officer.

Second thoughts are normal. They strike every mid, but at different times — before I-Day, plebe summer, plebe year, 3/C year, 2-for-7, and so on. The vast majority move past those second thoughts and excel at USNA and on AD. It is normal! The fact that OP is questioning whether they belong is a sign of introspection, humbleness, even courage — all worthy attributes of a future officer. Those who never question themselves display not strength but a massive blind spot.

Stand down, @blhenrywalpole. Your post reeks of sour grapes. Or narrow-mindedness. Or severe lack of empathy. None of which is good.
 
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You can go to another school a year or two years down the road. But you will never go to the USNA if you leave now. Don’t have regrets later you will be surprised many others. I just like you when they start and turn out to be leaders that can change the world. Just remember the next couple weeks aren’t gonna be easy but you will be with a group of people just like you.
 
Parents don’t always know how to support when it isn’t how we envisioned our kids path. Last year, I witnessed the opposite of your situation. A plebe who DORed right at the beginning of the AC year and the parents were unsupportive of that decision. Plebe had plenty of support from others including their company mates. You will have the same! There is a whole community out there supporting you already and they will continue. Hell, I’ll adopt you in the sense of any support you need. Send me your plebe address and I’ll support you through notes and care packages.
 
First off I want to say I've been on the forums for along time learning about noms and appointments. I was lucky enough to receive an appointment to the class of 2027 and I am now here in Annapolis for I-day on Thursday but honestly, like the title says, I'm thinking of bailing and going back home. I'm really worried that it's not what I expect, that I'm too young to choose something like this right now when I barely know anything about life! I don't understand what makes me special enough to ever lead people in warfighting. I'm scared I'm going to fail someone. I'm just really scared. I'm here alone because my parents don't really support my decision. I've been on here long enough to know some of you guys must have been scared before you started. What did you do about it? How did you get over it? How did you get over your doubts about your ability to handle the challenges and be good enough to lead people?

Thanks. I just don't know where else to ask for help.
As another plebe to be in your same boat, I don’t have experience to draw back on and I don’t know the right way to say everything but DO NOT QUIT.

Nobody has ever bettered themselves through lives of ease and complacency. It’s scary, but all of us are gonna fail a lot over these next weeks - be grateful we even get that chance to learn from those mistakes. We’re going to have bad days, probably really really bad days too. It’s only going to build us and thicken our skin in the long run. You’re not failing anyone, and you don’t have to know everything, but don’t make your report to USNA a “what if.” Show up with an eagerness to learn and show some heart. Just go in with an open mind and put away your doubts. I can barely swim lol. We just have to roll with the punches, so trust the process.
 
You are having perfectly normal feelings of dread and apprehension. Your mind is filling in the blank spots of the unknown with scary stuff.

This is a step-by-step process. You are not going to raise your right hand on Induction Day and be expected to be a leader of warriors the next morning. The next week. The year after that. It takes at least 4 years for you to be polished and educated and trained and coached and mentored and supported in THE JOURNEY to becoming an officer and leader. Midshipmen get plenty of practice leading peers and those junior to them. The confident detailers assigned to lead and train you over Plebe Summer were you two years ago. You can dial back immediately on the how-can-I-do-this - until you give it a fair shot and a good effort, and you come to an adult realization that it’s not something you want to do - but that’s not today.

By Thursday night, you will be in the midst of 1200 or so people like you who were brave enough to volunteer to serve their country, and most of them are having similar feelings to you right now. You will have shared a tough and crazy first day together, and likely found some classmates you already like. You will find new family of your choosing! And support all around you! The ones who aren’t having doubts, who think they have USNA all figured out and will walk on water while breezing through, suffer from hubris, which is not something that is desirable in any midshipman or officer. Or human.

You live your life one breath at a time. You have no idea how it will all unfold or what you are capable of doing. The secret is to break everything into manageable chunks and focus on dealing with just that. You can get through I-Day. It will be a blur. You can get through each day. If you have to break that day into hours to get through sometimes, that’s fine.

Set achievable goals. Between now and I-Day, eat well, sleep well, exercise, hydrate, go explore downtown Annapolis, talk to people who love you. On I-Day morning, set a goal of getting through I-Day and Plebe Summer, one day at a time. Promise yourself that is all you have to do right now. At the end of the summer, then you can think about setting a goal to start the academic year with your best effort and finish at least 1 semester, to give USNA a fair shot. You don’t have to accomplish anything right now, tonight, except drink a glass of water and get a good night’s sleep. That’s it. One achievable goal at a time.

You are barely a few steps into adulthood. Don’t edge backward. Lean into this.

Love your parents and let them come to know the strong, confident person you will become, at their own pace.

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"
- Lao Tzu
 
First of all; I feel you.

But I want you to take a step back and understand the immense courage it takes to even admit how you feel right now.

I applaud you for that and despite how you feel, it’s obvious you have a leader’s mentality. Leaders come to crossroads. Leaders get weak. Leaders turn to people for help. Most of all, all leaders, have most certainly been exactly where you are right now. If you got this far and never thought about how serious of a responsibility you’re about to take on, I’d worry that you wouldn’t have what it takes.

I’m not going to try to convince you otherwise. If bailing is what you want to do, go right ahead. I’m not going to try to lie to you and tell you it’s going to be easy— because it ain’t. In fact what you’re feeling and going through right now might be the easiest day you have in the Navy. I know that’s pretty messed up to hear but it’s the truth.

Going to war, well, quite honestly that’s just something you’ll never forget and in some cases it could hurt you. Not just physically but also mentally. Carrying the weight of your mistakes and the impact they had on others is a pretty crazy thing to ask of a young man or woman; I know. I have been there.

So, what do you do? Do you hear some anecdotal stories about how it was hard at first and then got easier? Do you listen to us on the forum and end up picking yourself up by your bootstraps and get on with it and see this journey though?

You have a lot of options and a lot of decisions to make and ultimately it will be up to you to pull that trigger. Not a single one of us will be responsible for the decision you make. Which is where my main point comes in; this is about YOU.

This is about you first. This can’t be about what anyone else thinks. This is not an opinion. This a a massive life altering decision. This is not a a crowd sourceable decision. This is about what you really want out of life.

What has been set before you is an amazing and rewarding experience that will shape you into the person you’ll be forever. It’s a privilege. You can look at the difficulty you’re experiencing and let it formulate feelings, that ultimately turn into a reaction, or you can wait. Hold. Keep steady. Breathe. Focus on the positive. Focus on your goals. Listen to your heart and make a decision that comes after clarity and understanding.

Not because that’s what leaders do, but because you owe it to yourself to first gather yourself and make a decision based on objectivity and not subjectivity. Then and only then will you feel right.

I’m going to tell you right now, walking away from this could be the greatest or could be the worst thing you could do in your life. But the one thing staying won’t be is the “WORSE DECISION YOU’VE EVER MADE.” I guarantee that. At best, staying could be the best decision you’ve ever made and on average, staying will be a good and positive experience.

That’s the data. Those are your odds. And now that you can reframe your thinking to understand the statistical reality of your decision you must tackle your next concerns— being a leader, your lack of experience, and going to war.

Being a leader is not something you’ll learn at the academy, that comes later. First you’ll be given the tools to lead. It’s up to you to act on it and perform daily as a leader. This concern coincides with the lack of experience issue and how young you are. Your journey as an officer allows you the time needed to grow comfortable in that role. So, those concerns, though valid, are essentially null because the expectations are not exactly immediate.

Going to war and leading in war are two different things. Going back to your tools, you’ll be well equipped ti handle both. That’s what you’re being prep for and that’s why you are feeling down because the level of stress that you’re experiencing right now is designed to push you to your limits.

You’re going to have days where you want to quit. You’re going to have days where you feel like running away will help you solve all of your problems. That’s okay. The reality is, no matter where you go, your ability to tap into the feeling of despair, weakness, and unworthiness —- will still be there; if you let it. So, bailing and doing something else with your life is not a solution for what you’re experiencing now. What you’re experiencing now is a breaking down of yourself and you can either use this opportunity to restructure yourself into a better person or let those feelings take over and win.

The way you win is you begin to build tools for yourself that help you cope and get through difficult times. You can do preventative work to help you not get here but since you’re here now, let’s talk about what it takes to get out.

Choices
In the Navy you’ll have to make hard choices and getting back in the game is one you’ll run up against, frequently. So, start by reducing your choices. Make them binary when you can and make the dependent on your ultimate goal. Doing this reduces stress and helps you get through rough times because you’ve shifted your focus to how can I streamline my choices instead of how do I deal with a prioritize all my choices. Take your decision to bail, for example. Is this binary? Is this a stay or go choice? Which choice lines up with your ultimate goal, is a better place to set your focus. Retreating can’t be the first option. The first question should be what is my ultimate goal and does staying align with that? So, the work to be done here is triaging decision making by a reduction of choices and a clear path to alignment with your life goal.

Positivity
Next is positivity. We can all end up in a place where we are constantly complaining or dislike our current situation but the problem with this is negativity is compounding. Think of negativity like credit card debt. It’s a lot better to not get into than it is to be in it. So, how do you reframe your thinking? Easy, don’t. If something bothers you don’t think about it. Shift to thinking about something else. Keep your eye on the prize and think of your ultimate goal. Tell yourself how excited you’re going to be when this is all over and you’re out on the other side. It used to motivate me to visualize my mom and see how proud she was of me when I was stuck in the leaning rest. It reminded me of how hard she worked to raise me and helped see the bigger picture. When I was scared or sad, I’d call her and she’d always remind of my ultimate goal. Things that bother are important, but start picking and choosing when to address them and shift to something positive when you can.

You are not alone
Don’t think you’re the only one going through this. Don’t think you’re the first person to ever go through this at your age or with zero experience as a leader. Realizing that this has been done before, many times, and by many people just like you, should highlight the fact the you have a shoulder to lean on and others that you can talk to about this.

Manage Stress
Build strong tools to help your cope and manage stress better. This will take time but you can do this.

Strengthen your will
Dig down deep inside and work on building a stronger foundation of who you are and who you want to be. I can tell you right now you have no reason to feel weak, inadequate, inexperienced, or like you’re not leadership material. You have already proven to yourself that you’re capable, all you have to do now is execute on it.

Following through
You can most certainly quit or walk away from things if you want; at any time but remember that you made a conscious commitment to be here and it makes all the sense in the world to follow through with this. For everything your start see following it through as the only option. In fact, don’t ever commit to something unless you’re wholeheartedly ready to see it all the way through 100%.

My dear friend I hope that you have all the courage you need to make the right choice and I wish you the best. Please be strong and be sure the make the choice that’s right for you.
 
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You’ll have a better idea of who you are in the next 6 weeks …. Test yourself first … you won’t regret that … then you can reassess after Plebe summer is over …. I have a strong feeling that you will be a lot more upbeat …

😎
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First off I want to say I've been on the forums for along time learning about noms and appointments. I was lucky enough to receive an appointment to the class of 2027 and I am now here in Annapolis for I-day on Thursday but honestly, like the title says, I'm thinking of bailing and going back home. I'm really worried that it's not what I expect, that I'm too young to choose something like this right now when I barely know anything about life! I don't understand what makes me special enough to ever lead people in warfighting. I'm scared I'm going to fail someone. I'm just really scared. I'm here alone because my parents don't really support my decision. I've been on here long enough to know some of you guys must have been scared before you started. What did you do about it? How did you get over it? How did you get over your doubts about your ability to handle the challenges and be good enough to lead people?

Thanks. I just don't know where else to ask for help.
Like you, I’ve been reading the posts in this form for a while, but I hadn’t joined until I saw your post. In the time it took me to join, so many from this experienced and wise community have already replied and expressed what I wanted to tell you and they’ve said it better than I can.

I did not attend a service academy, but I took a different path that was hard and really challenged me. I was scared in the days right before I began. Like others have said, what you are feeling is natural, but you would not have been selected for admission if they didn’t think you could lead well. They will teach you what you need to know over the coming years. For now, I’d focus on small goals, like MJ said. That’s a strategy I‘ve used before and it helps me in tough times.….even if the goal is an hour, a day, or a week.

I’m rooting for you.
 
I want to thank everyone (well almost everyone) who jumped in to help a lowly nobody plebe to be, I really appreciate it, I feel supported in a way I don't think I have so far, so thank you very much everyone! I guess I am trying to do too much and think about too much right now and I don't have to, at least not yet. I am going to do what Captain MJ suggested tomorrow and go for a run, that clears my head really well, thank you ma'am or sir. Can I go on the yard tomorrow? I know I need to have my ID. I just don't know if we're "banned" until Thursday, haha!

Also, when all the other new kids are hanging out with their family after we take the oath of office, what do I do? Thanks again everybody, I am going to turn in for tonight, thank you very much for your support.
 
I want to thank everyone (well almost everyone) who jumped in to help a lowly nobody plebe to be, I really appreciate it, I feel supported in a way I don't think I have so far, so thank you very much everyone! I guess I am trying to do too much and think about too much right now and I don't have to, at least not yet. I am going to do what Captain MJ suggested tomorrow and go for a run, that clears my head really well, thank you ma'am or sir. Can I go on the yard tomorrow? I know I need to have my ID. I just don't know if we're "banned" until Thursday, haha!

Also, when all the other new kids are hanging out with their family after we take the oath of office, what do I do? Thanks again everybody
You are not banned. Last year we went and watched the prior enlisted and NAPS “kids” go through in processing. It hyped my plebe to be up! If you want my email, since you can’t private message here yet. Let me know. I’ll add it and edit it. I don’t care if it gets out there for others. If it helps one, then it’s worth it.
 
I want to thank everyone (well almost everyone) who jumped in to help a lowly nobody plebe to be, I really appreciate it, I feel supported in a way I don't think I have so far, so thank you very much everyone! I guess I am trying to do too much and think about too much right now and I don't have to, at least not yet. I am going to do what Captain MJ suggested tomorrow and go for a run, that clears my head really well, thank you ma'am or sir. Can I go on the yard tomorrow? I know I need to have my ID. I just don't know if we're "banned" until Thursday, haha!

Also, when all the other new kids are hanging out with their family after we take the oath of office, what do I do? Thanks again everybody, I am going to turn in for tonight, thank you very much for your support.
You’re a civilian until you’re not. Just show proper ID and head through Gate 1. Be mindful of the signs hear the Chapel and central quadrangle areas about no joggers/pet walking, etc.

After the oath, look for Alumni Assn people/alumni looking for people like you - they’ll have a phone you can use, a cool drink, etc. Be sure to memorize a parent’s mobile number or anyone you want to call. You’ll have people.

Final tip before your good night’s sleep - keep an eye out for international plebes coming from their home country. They are processing everything you are but likely not in their native language. When you help others, your own problems and worries shrink.

Hit the rack!
 
First off I want to say I've been on the forums for along time learning about noms and appointments. I was lucky enough to receive an appointment to the class of 2027 and I am now here in Annapolis for I-day on Thursday but honestly, like the title says, I'm thinking of bailing and going back home. I'm really worried that it's not what I expect, that I'm too young to choose something like this right now when I barely know anything about life! I don't understand what makes me special enough to ever lead people in warfighting. I'm scared I'm going to fail someone. I'm just really scared. I'm here alone because my parents don't really support my decision. I've been on here long enough to know some of you guys must have been scared before you started. What did you do about it? How did you get over it? How did you get over your doubts about your ability to handle the challenges and be good enough to lead people?

Thanks. I just don't know where else to ask for help.
I want to thank everyone (well almost everyone) who jumped in to help a lowly nobody plebe to be, I really appreciate it, I feel supported in a way I don't think I have so far, so thank you very much everyone! I guess I am trying to do too much and think about too much right now and I don't have to, at least not yet. I am going to do what Captain MJ suggested tomorrow and go for a run, that clears my head really well, thank you ma'am or sir. Can I go on the yard tomorrow? I know I need to have my ID. I just don't know if we're "banned" until Thursday, haha!

Also, when all the other new kids are hanging out with their family after we take the oath of office, what do I do? Thanks again everybody, I am going to turn in for tonight, thank you very much for your support.
If you hang in there you have 2 years to make up your mind. If after your sophomore year you want out then you can leave without any obligations. Two years will give you a good time to determine if these feelings are long lasting or just pre flight jitters. Don't quit. Yet.
 
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