almightyloaf53
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Is it common for candidates who were rejected to be offered to NAPS?
Is it common for candidates who were rejected to be offered to NAPS?
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The vast majority of candidates who do not receive an offer of appointment do not receive invitations to NAPS. Others may know the size of a NAPS class. From there, you can do rough math — an entering class of 1200 mids, out of about 85% yield, gets you about 1400 offerees, who account for 40%-45% of those who were 3Q with nominations.
I am not overly familiar with NAPS; however, what I have read makes me think it is about the same size as USAFAPS. USAFAPS is typically made up of about 250 cadet candidates. I have heard that it is actually harder to get into the prep school due to the small number of candidates offered the prep school appointment. (Meaning harder from the perspective of - you have not been chosen for a direct appointment and now are in the 'pool' for the prep school.)
I would think of it this way - if 4,000 apply to get into the SA and 1200 are offered an appointment - that is 30% of the applicants will be offered an appointment, with the remaining 70%, or 2,800, hoping for a spot at the SA prep school. And if only 250 of those 2800 are offered an appointment at the prep school - that means only 9% of the remaining 2800 candidates will have the potential for a spot at the SA prep...
NOTE: this is not taking into account foundation scholarship... I don't know how many of those are offered...
Hope that helps and that I explained that right.
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+1 to @NavyHoops. In the back-of-the-envelope math I showed above, it’s purely to give a rough idea of percentages. As Hoops alludes, most candidates who don’t receive an offer are not considered for Prep.
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Let's think about this for a second. 100% of the NAPS cadets were not offered an appointment at USNA. I'm not aware of one mid who was simultaneously offered both NAPS and USNA. But that said, those offered NAPS were considered strong candidates in some fashion but also with some weakness that Admissions believed could be uplifted at NAPS or through a Foundation Scholarship.
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What does “3Q with nominations” mean?
3 Q means medically, physically and scholastically qualified. A candidate will know if they are Q for the first two. USNA does not tell candidates if they are scholastically qualified. To receive an appointment a candidate must be 3Q and have secured a nomination.
NAPS is usually reserved for individuals that are not 3Q for some reason. Most of the NAPS offers are for applicants that have something that differentiates them from the rest of the applicants the USNA wants in the class and is willing to spend a year helping them get ready. These are things like athletes, prior soldier candidates, under represented minority categories.
I too agree with most of the comments above, but I would add this. If you got an offer to NAPS, you didn't get rejected from USNA; NAPS is also a tough to receive. Most applicants to the USNA are rejected, very few are accepted and then there are those few that may be 3Q but there was no more bids open and admissions didn't want to let you go without an offer. Then there are some who may be 3Q but a little weaker in one area of their academics and needed to be strengthened in that area. You also have the prospective student athletes that admissions wants to make academically stronger. This is not to leave out the priors who may just need to touch up their study regiment and refresh. They all get 10 months to prove themselves or re-evaluate.
By now, there are some at NAPS who have already been told they have no path to meeting the requirements for appointments and are going through their SEPs process. There are some that are boarder line and working to make it and then there are those who are just waiting for graduation and their next phase.
NAPS should be appreciated and considered an honor to be accepted. You are still one of very few.
By now, there are some at NAPS who have already been told they have no path to meeting the requirements for appointments and are going through their SEPs process. There are some that are boarder line and working to make it and then there are those who are just waiting for graduation and their next phase.
NAPS should be appreciated and considered an honor to be accepted. You are still one of very few.
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> I don't think the last statement is true. First, no one except USNA Admissions knows why a particular person goes to NAPS instead of a TWE. The common line is that they saw something they liked, worth developing, and are giving the applicant the opportunity to develop. I have never heard of anyone getting a NAPS invite because they were so good Navy couldn't do without them --every year hundreds, even thousands, of outstanding kids get the TWE. If USNA really thinks a person is that special -- they will find a way in directly ! For that kid that is really great, but just didn't make the cut -- they may be encouraged to reapply.,
> My experience at NAPS is almost 40 years ago -- and I would invite a more current M/C or recent NAPS grad to comment, but the M/C's are constantly evaluated, both academically , militarily, and conduct. We had academic and performance reviews, and people were certainly counseled out throughout the course of the year. I was one that was "borderline" academically... I got my butt kicked in Calculus up until the end of the 2nd Trimester, I was on academic probation for much of my time at NAPS -- EI and weekly trips to visit the CO to explain how I was doing. Somewhere along the line, the light bulb clicked on, I recovered and graduated ...but it was touch and go for awhile.
I believe my words were taken a little out of context; I was not saying that certain kids were special or great and the academy didn't want to lose them. What I was trying to say was, there are other circumstances that play a part. There are some applicants that the USNA found qualified and the they gave them a bid to the NAPS, maybe due to their hard work, maybe it's some other part of their character that stands out, maybe they were just a little weak in math or maybe they finished their application process late in the timeline. That's not saying they were more special or greater than others and it wasn't my intention. I watched the special on the admissions process because I did want to know more and that was the message conveyed, but it didn't speak of the kids who are there for sports applicants. A lot of the Napsters seem to be athletic candidates.