Only JROTC units that are "Honor Units with Distinction" can nominate and there are really not that many battalions that are honor units with distinction.
JROTC/ROTC nomination slots
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Only JROTC units that are "Honor Units with Distinction" can nominate and there are really not that many battalions that are honor units with distinction.
ANY Navy or Marine Corps JROTC unit can nominate three. Navy or Marine Corps JROTC units that are designated honor units are able to nominate an additional three, for six nominations to USNA.
For NJROTC "honor unit" is any unit that has been awarded the Distinguished Unit Award.
Army and Air Force units designated "honor units" can nominate three to USNA.
Considering that there are hundreds of NJROTC and MCJROTC units that can each nominate at least three if not six candidates, 157 is an extremely small number.
There seems to be a good bit of confusing conjecture adrift on this topic. According to the information posted in Shipmate, the alumni magazine, the Supe's shop reported 157 NOMS from ROTC/JROTC sources out of a total of 6,285 NOMS to USNA 2015. There were a total of 1,426 OFFERS of APPOINTMENT of which 1,229 were ACCEPTED. Unfortunately there was no breakdown of appointees by source, so it is difficult to determine how many ROTC/JROTC nominees received appointments.
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Not to beat a dead horse...but it would seem to me, that to truly calculate one's "chances", the number (that maybe can't be known) that is necessary, is the number of candidates 3 Q'd with a nomination,(I've seen a number as low as 2800-3000 for one year) if one made it to that category, that would truly be one's "competition."
I asked something similiar to this back in September and Mongo's response was quite informative. Here's the link.
http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=21771
http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=21771
Similar issue with presidential nom
Ds received a nom from MOC but not his principal. In talking to our BGO he mentioned that being that my DS already had a presidential nom this congressman thinks it is redundant to give him his principal nom as well. Very frustrating for my son being that he is 3q and the principal would have done the trick. Wish the MOC nom committees would consider that JROTC and presidential noms are not truly competitive and pick the most qualified candidate regardless. When asked in interview if he qualified for a presidential, DS was honest and said yes but tried to explain that he was humbly seeking the MOC nom since only 100 presidentals nom could be appointed- Ds said they didn't seem to care about the rest of the interview after they knew he had a nom already!
Ds received a nom from MOC but not his principal. In talking to our BGO he mentioned that being that my DS already had a presidential nom this congressman thinks it is redundant to give him his principal nom as well. Very frustrating for my son being that he is 3q and the principal would have done the trick. Wish the MOC nom committees would consider that JROTC and presidential noms are not truly competitive and pick the most qualified candidate regardless. When asked in interview if he qualified for a presidential, DS was honest and said yes but tried to explain that he was humbly seeking the MOC nom since only 100 presidentals nom could be appointed- Ds said they didn't seem to care about the rest of the interview after they knew he had a nom already!
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crair70,
There are lots of candidates who never receive a nomination. The fact that your son is listed on 2 official sources is better than one or none. It is also better than having a MOC who won't even give you a nomination, at all, because you have one from another source.
Let the appointment process work itself out, lots of MOCs don't use the principal nomination method, and your son has did the best he can (through what he can control). Stressing about things you can't control doesn't help one way or another. Could of, should of, would of isn't the reality.
There are lots of candidates who never receive a nomination. The fact that your son is listed on 2 official sources is better than one or none. It is also better than having a MOC who won't even give you a nomination, at all, because you have one from another source.
Let the appointment process work itself out, lots of MOCs don't use the principal nomination method, and your son has did the best he can (through what he can control). Stressing about things you can't control doesn't help one way or another. Could of, should of, would of isn't the reality.
To be honest, my application didn't ask it so I didn't mention it
.... However, I'm in a similiar position. I received a Texas Senator nom, which effectively knocked me out from getting my own house rep's nom (neither operate with principals), which is MUCH more favorable. I don't think many congressional boards have a clear understanding of the nomination process, the # of slots alotted, etc... I know mine didn't at least. It seems that nominations are just another casework responsibility they can't get around. But MOC staff want to nominate as many as THEIR constituents as possible. In the end, it's a game of politics, not merit.
"Can" does not mean these JROTC programs will have enough applicants. Considering some JROTC programs are in schools that traditionally don't send kids to SAs, not surprising that number could be smaller.
To be honest, my application didn't ask it so I didn't mention it
I don't think many congressional boards have a clear understanding of the nomination process, the # of slots alotted, etc... I know mine didn't at least. It seems that nominations are just another casework responsibility they can't get around. But MOC staff want to nominate as many as THEIR constituents as possible. In the end, it's a game of politics, not merit.
I don't disagree, but it not all game of politics.
How many Congressional boards have you dealt with other than yours to make such generalization that they have no clue? Is it just the case worker or the whole board itself. Sometimes a MOC case worker might appeared clueless, but he or she is not the decision maker - many cases they are responsible to coordinating the board, but the board proceeding itself.
One of my senators limits the nomination to one SA only and no double nomination. Being able to attend a SA is a priviliege, not a right. So why should someone have more than one chance at a SA (via multiple nomination). As for the senatorial nomination, I see it as a back up. If you got nominated by your Congressman (with a higher chance of appointment) why do you need another nomination with a lower chance of appointment.