Mid charged with sexual assault

cb7893

5-Year Member
@txfwindian that’s certainly what I would have thought, but very curious what @LurkingQuietly DS meant.
I don’t want to speak for @Quietlylurking , but I took away is two things:

It is a different world today than when he and I were splitting a couple of pitchers of beers with buddies or chasing girls. I was no choirboy nor were most of my running mates. The term “binge drinking” wasn’t even invented, because no one binge drank. We were mindful of a girl’s reputation, and our own. Now there is tinder where...well I won’t go there.

The other take away, which my just turned O-3 DS has confirmed through his own stories, the military isn’t much different than the rest of society. In someways it may even be more dysfunctional, which is more a result of “institutionalism” than of the quality of the troops and officers coming in.
 
when your son says there are bad kids at the academies, did he mean, “like there are everywhere in society”? Or disproportionately more at the academies?
I Probably worded that badly. The overwhelmingly majority of men and women he graduated with are stellar officers. The overwhelmingly majority of the men and women my enlisted son and daughter serve with, serve with distinction. I also have a daughter-in-law, and son-in-law that serve in the Coast Guard (and CG grandkids!) Semper Paratus!
 

kp2001

10-Year Member
It is a different world today than when he and I were splitting a couple of pitchers of beers with buddies or chasing girls. I was no choirboy nor were most of my running mates. The term “binge drinking” wasn’t even invented, because no one binge drank. We were mindful of a girl’s reputation, and our own. Now there is tinder where...well I won’t go there.
Sorry, I can’t let this recall bias float on by without being noted.

Binge drinking absolutely has existed since the turn of time. Just because the term didn’t exist didn’t mean it didn’t happen. A report from the NIH notes that in the 1970’s alcohol was a factor in over 60% of traffic fatalities. (https://report.nih.gov/nihfactsheets/viewfactsheet.aspx?csid=24). Now imagine how many traffic fatalities there are per year and that reveals that certainly people were binge drinking AND getting behind the wheel. That means there were even more who drank and didn’t drive.

To the chasing girls comment: just because they weren’t reported doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

Let’s not pretend that one generation was more ethical or responsible than another.
 

Capt MJ

10-Year Member
Thank you, @kp2001.

When I was in high school and college, the term “date rape” and “binge drunking” hadn’t yet emerged. It most definitely happened, and among the “good kids” and not just a few incidents here and there. They weren’t reported. If they were, it was not taken seriously.

I had a beloved aunt, smart, funny, always the lady, who never married, my father’s eldest sister by several years. Mom told me, after Aunt M died, that in the 1920’s, she and her perfectly respectable beau went to a party at another family’s home with friends. “Something” happened, she walked 5 miles home in a downpour, had to go to a doctor the next day, didn’t speak for a year, and never spoke about that night to anyone. She never went out with another man. The family didn’t speak if it.

This is not to say there are not right-thinking and doing men and women in any era, who respect others and their own bodies. I’m just saying these things have gone on, perhaps unnamed, unreported, because social attitudes about them were different.

It wasn’t until 1984 the New York Times had a headline “New Laws Recognizing Marital Rape as Crime.” Before that, a perfectly respectable spouse could physically force his or her spouse to have sex, and it was not prosecuted. Let’s not even talk about the laws that allowed a husband to beat his wife, up until the 1920s, though prosecutions weren’t common until social outcry against domestic violence in the 1970s.

Bad stuff has been happening all along, but now it is openly named in most cultures. Good people have always been around too, “chasing girls” but staying inside the guard rails of respectful behavior, and I applaud them for that. I’m married to one.

I had several close calls early in my life with people I thought were nice. I was able to get out of those situations. One on one, there are some people who are not the face they present to the world.

We unraveled in an interesting direction here from the original report.
 
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Mama-B

New Member
Showed this article with DD who attended summer seminar. She shared that there were a few seminar attendees making jokes about the posted sexual assault awareness posters. She found the cavalier attitude of these potential candidates disturbing. It does not dissuade her from wanting to attend since she knows sexual assault can happen anywhere.
 

Old Navy BGO

5-Year Member
Binge drinking absolutely has existed since the turn of time. Just because the term didn’t exist didn’t mean it didn’t happen
Not to make light of the subject, but had to laugh at the idea that binge drinking didn't exist back in the day. Of course it did, and it was widely accepted as being part of being in the Navy. I recall sitting through a week of NADSAP training during a dead weak during flight training. The poor facilitator was almost in tears when faced with a class of 25 fledgling aviators , almost all were USNA classmates, and we weren't taking her program seriously.
 
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