MID Security clearance

I have word doc with all the addresses we have lived at since college with dates; added to it all the address of where my kids lived during college and afterwards. DS who is AF Doc now getting TSC and called with the "mom, do you have the addresses of where I've lived for the past 10 years"
 
Once you fill out the TS forms, you renew every 5 years. Generally, the old one is in the system and you use that as the basis for updates for the new go round. Meaning, once you've done it the first time, it is much easier to update (unless you travel out of country all the time).

Remember, going to visit an embassy (that is not the US) is considered visiting another country. So if any of the kids did that in their school days, be sure they put that in.
 
Guess I should clarify, Yup the forms you fill out are standardized relative to the clearance or ticket to be issued. What I meant to address with "the 3 witches", is the fact that how information from those forms and interviews brings the DoD or other issuing authority to a Yes/No on the award of the clearance is well, murky.

The only little piece of advice I have to offer here would be to let people named in your forms or other friends relatives know that they might be interviewed in connection with DD's /DS's military service. AND that its not the time to tell funny stories or "punk" the applicant with references to some absurd made-up story that "anybody would know was a joke".

This process and the people who run it have NO sense of humor, and they aren't paid to comprehend nuanced replies, allegories, Etc..

I know a truly talented, dedicated and well thought of USNA grad, now JO who went through a long painful review process; was suspended from his job; and was almost separated from the USN because former room mates gave "funny" answers in interviews............... Or, noting "The 3 Witches", he THINKS that was why.
 
They definitely don't play around!

One of my staff when I worked for the Corps of Engineers lost his SCI portion of his TS because he questioned the polygrapher. Biggest mistake of his career.
 
Lex Caesaria Law Rome BC not Ceasar but worked well in The Scottish Play
 
They don't fool around. Good friend in Tech School had his Clearnce held up because he had some remote relatives in East European Countries. He didn't even know. As far as he knew they were French Canadians living in the US for generations. Your life becomes an open book.
 
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The process mentioned by @OldRetSWO is designed to suss out inconsistencies and memory lapses. It's nothing to worry about, but the investigators will insist on "completeness" on the forms.
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There is no such thing as an "extraneous" comment to an investigator and chances are they know the correct answer to every question they ask--before they ask you.

Pre-Covid, I was interviewed by an investigator for a friend who is a university professor in the Bio-sciences. He travels the world going to conferences literally everywhere. He has grad students and post-docs from everywhere working in his lab, including China. Interestingly, the only Russians are ex-pats. She wanted to know every single friend or acquaintance we have in common. I'm convinced she knew the correct answer to 90% of the questions she asked me. And she asked the dumbest questions, like "Does he leave the country often?" She knew damn well that he travels everywhere for work, his daughter lives in Berlin and his in-laws all live in Poland. "Has he ever mentioned anyone he met at the conferences he goes to?" She wrote everything down and I'm sure entered it into the big Deep State database.
 
Count yourself lucky you are only subjected to interviews. My father-in-law was a very senior person at a federal agency in DC with White House access. When my wife was in her teens they could always tell when he was up for a new clearance because they could also detect when the phone was bugged (apparently there was certain tell-tale clicks when they answered the phone). My wife and her friend (whose dad was also a super-grade GS) would say also sorts of crazy stuff to each other, suspecting someone was listening until one day when pop came home scowling and read her the riot act for what an agent from an alphabet agency presented him with in a debrief. Lesson- national security is just not something to joke around with.
 
New thing, Continuous Evaluation: https://www.dni.gov/index.php/ncsc-...ive-agent/ncsc-continuous-evaluation-overview

Anything that can be stored in a database and associated with you (travel, financial information, police records, etc.) can be scrubbed by an automated system at any time. Implementation comes from a different agency than the initial and re-investigations as well.

Any information you would report in an SF-86 is always and immediately reportable to your security officer. Do not wait until your next re-investigation.

Even if an incident doesn't result in loss of clearance, it can affect things like promotions, orders, or non-reciprocation of clearance with another agency (i.e. NSA not respecting your USN clearance). When in doubt, contact your command security officer.

All of this applies to cadets and midshipmen as much as it does AD officers. One of the few situations where MIDN are not afforded the "just a college kid" treatment. Make good choices. When in doubt, ask.
 
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