MOC Won't Fill Slate

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academyhopeful23

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I received nominations from my MOC and Senator to USNA but am not the principle on either slate. I just got an LOA for USAFA but have no nomination to USAFA because I did not list it as my first choice. The problem is, my MOC didn't nominate 10 people for their vacancy at USAFA and will only nominate 2 people. Has anyone ever heard of an MOC having open nominations slots but just refusing to nominate a full slate of 10? Even though I have an LOA and would get an appointment with an alternate nomination.
 
Have you notified the MOC’s staff about your LOA? Since you didn’t list USAFA as your first choice, it’s understandable that you didn’t get a nomination. But it doesn’t hurt to inform the MOC, and to politely and respectfully ask for a nomination.
 
Yes, I called and said that I had just received the LOA and asked if they could switch my nomination to USAFA but they said no. That's why I am confused as to why they won't just give out an alternate nom so I can be appointed.
 
How do you know the MOC doesn't have a full slate for USAFA?
 
Their press release and their office staff both said that. They decline some applicants for a nomination too even when there are nominations available.
 
It is political patronage, they can do what they want.
Some MOCs make no nominations at all.
 
Honestly the whole 'nomination' system should be scrapped. They days where Rhode Island getting a preponderance of military officers and running rough shod over the rest of the Republic are long gone.

If one were to look honestly at the nomination process it's a huge waste of time and effort and money on everyone's part.

If the world made any sense there would be a single web site where candidates for any and all rotc programs/ federal academies would enter information one time - grades - essays - test scores - fitness exams and preferences - but that's a whole nuther thread.
 
Typically it has to do with the MOC's point of view.
A search on this forum would reveal some past posts on this topic by those impacted.
 
kinnem said:
Because they are anti-war and anti-military.
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@kinnem, I don’t doubt that this is the rationale for some. For better or for worse, our military exists to protect those MOCs’ right to think and act this way. It’s an irony of our great nation, and the fact that it can happen is a sign of our Founding Fathers’ brilliance in protecting individual freedom (among citizens and the elected) and giving us the power to select (and remove) our leaders. C’est la vie.
 
A view is that the elected representative does have the right to designate their appointees as they see fit. If you're the best candidate for said academy it doesn't matter. OP it sounds like you set yourself back by not listing USAFA as a primary slot though that is who you are currently most competitive for.

I for one am all about maintaining congressional appointments so that we have an officer corps more diverse than the handful of competitive districts. Arguments against this strike me as being in the same vein as those who want to abolish the electoral college.
 
emwvmi01 said:
I for one am all about maintaining congressional appointments so that we have an officer corps more diverse than the handful of competitive districts.
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Geographic diversity could be maintained without the MOC process.
But as they would have to take power from themselves it is unlikely.
 
CitadelN88 said:
If the world made any sense there would be a single web site where candidates for any and all rotc programs/ federal academies would enter information one time - grades - essays - test scores - fitness exams and preferences - but that's a whole nuther thread.
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Like a common app for service academies. I've often wished for the same thing.
 
AJC said:
Geographic diversity could be maintained without the MOC process.
But as they would have to take power from themselves it is unlikely.
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It will be a cold day in Hades before any MOC voluntarily cedes ANY perks of their office; especially one valued by so many.

SAs absolutely despise the Principal Nominee [aka 'Golden Ticket'] as it can theoretically dictate 50% of each incoming class [535 MOCs - each with a principal nominee for a class of 1100.]

Curious if any demographics are evident in those less than full slates.
 
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