NA Summer Seminar

For those with rejections, please do not let this stop you from applying. There is no special line on I Day for NASS attendees. There are no bonus points on someone’s app for attending. Even if that 40% stat is true, that means the majority of appointees did not attend. Honestly if your test scores are not where they need to be, spend the money on a tutor instead. It will go much further on your app than attending NASS.

Don’t get me wrong, NASS is a wonderful program and I encourage those who are accepted to attend, if possible. Especially if you are not sure a SA lifestyle is for you. It won’t get you into USNA, but an extremely poor performance such as an extremely bad attitude, refusing to participate could keep you out. Go with a good attitude, try your best at everything and evaluate if usna is the right place for you. Good luck as your start your roller coaster ride towards an appointment.
 
justdoit19 said:
Says who? My training with admissions just last summer addressed this specifically. Straight from admissions. Attending doesn’t significantly increase your likelihood of an appointment.

40 pct means roughly 500 in each appointed class attended NASS. And that’s IF everyone who attended, was ultimately offered an appointment. And that isn’t the case. You chances are not ‘much higher of being accepted in the fall’ if you attend.

A highly qualified candidate, for example, who lives in the area and is able to visit on their own, isn’t their target audience for this program.

Tons and tons of discussion about this. Search the forums. But assuming they aren’t interested bc they weren’t offered a spot at NASS does a disservice to your son. Please encourage him to continue. You may be pleasantly surprised!!

BTW, NASS has 3 sessions. Don’t recall their numbers off the top of my head. But it’s not a lot. No where near as big as appointments offered. And both of my current Mids know very few buddies who attend. MOST didn’t.

*Both my boys went to NASS. One had ONE appointed from his squad, the other had none. 40pct cannot work mathematically
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I got the "40%" from multiple sources. It can vary from 30-40%.

1st source is the rejection letter my son received from the USNA: Summer Seminar is a great program designed to provide students' insight into the life of a midshipman. However, it is not a prerequisite for admission. Each year, more than 60% of the students we admit from high school will have not attended Summer Seminar. We will offer opportunities in the fall for seniors to participate in Candidate Visit Weekends, which provide a similar experience, as well as Candidate Day Tours. Another opportunity to get first-hand experience of life at USNA includes summer sports camps, which are hosted by the Naval Academy Athletic Association. More information concerning sports camps may be found at www.navysports.com.

The 2nd source are the multiple Academy grads (all services) I work with. One LTC I work with helped run the USMA SLE. He said that your chances are increased by approx. 30% if you attend the SLE (aka Summer Seminar). I have a USNA who also said the same thing. All six academy grads (all services) attended their respective "summer seminars".
 
TCartens said:
The 2nd source are the multiple Academy grads (all services) I work with. One LTC I work with helped run the USMA SLE. He said that your chances are increased by approx. 30% if you attend the SLE (aka Summer Seminar). I have a USNA who also said the same thing. All six academy grads (all services) attended their respective "summer seminars".
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I would suggest all Candidates and Parents take what you hear from "other grads" with a grain of salt. First, USNA and USMA Admissions are often very different. Second, the fact that 40% of each class may have attended NASS does not necessarily equate to a "better chance of Admission" -- NASS is first and foremost an awareness program -- trying to attract those top notch kids that may not even be aware of or understand what the Naval Academy is. As I've said here several times-that kid who grew up on banks of the Severn and has spent his life watching the Naval Academy, isn't the target audience -he/she knows what they are getting into.

Finally, while old grads are great sources for sea stories about life back in the day (and nothing wrong with that, its great to get kids interested!), many grads really don't know the ins and out of the Admissions system -they know what worked for them, and one data point doesn't create a rule. The USNA Admissions website is very detailed, and everything you really need is there . Beyond that, USNA has a cadre of Blue & Gold Officers, who attend training and get the "official word."
 
TCartens said:
I got the "40%" from multiple sources. It can vary from 30-40%.

1st source is the rejection letter my son received from the USNA: Summer Seminar is a great program designed to provide students' insight into the life of a midshipman. However, it is not a prerequisite for admission. Each year, more than 60% of the students we admit from high school will have not attended Summer Seminar. We will offer opportunities in the fall for seniors to participate in Candidate Visit Weekends, which provide a similar experience, as well as Candidate Day Tours. Another opportunity to get first-hand experience of life at USNA includes summer sports camps, which are hosted by the Naval Academy Athletic Association. More information concerning sports camps may be found at www.navysports.com.

The 2nd source are the multiple Academy grads (all services) I work with. One LTC I work with helped run the USMA SLE. He said that your chances are increased by approx. 30% if you attend the SLE (aka Summer Seminar). I have a USNA who also said the same thing. All six academy grads (all services) attended their respective "summer seminars".
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more than 60% of the students we admit from high school is not the same thing as more than 60% of the CLASS

A significant percentage of the class comes from colleges, NAPS, Foundation Prep and some direct from the fleet.
 
TCartens said:
I got the "40%" from multiple sources. It can vary from 30-40%.

1st source is the rejection letter my son received from the USNA: Summer Seminar is a great program designed to provide students' insight into the life of a midshipman. However, it is not a prerequisite for admission. Each year, more than 60% of the students we admit from high school will have not attended Summer Seminar. We will offer opportunities in the fall for seniors to participate in Candidate Visit Weekends, which provide a similar experience, as well as Candidate Day Tours. Another opportunity to get first-hand experience of life at USNA includes summer sports camps, which are hosted by the Naval Academy Athletic Association. More information concerning sports camps may be found at www.navysports.com.

The 2nd source are the multiple Academy grads (all services) I work with. One LTC I work with helped run the USMA SLE. He said that your chances are increased by approx. 30% if you attend the SLE (aka Summer Seminar). I have a USNA who also said the same thing. All six academy grads (all services) attended their respective "summer seminars".
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Also, ‘more than 60 pct of direct admits’ doesn’t equate to ‘40 pct of the brigade attended summer seminar’.

Firstly, there are even not that many spots in summer seminar. And secondly, there is no way to measure how attending INCREASES your own chance of attendance. Too many other intangible and tangible variables at play including: Nominations. Medical. Diversity initiatives. Underrepresented initiatives and focuses.

Lastly, as a newer BGO, I attended the latest and greatest, most current training. And straight from admissions, NASS does not increase your chances of an appointment. It’s an awareness program. Exactly as @Old Navy BGO stated. Got my notes, got my videos. Got my slides. Maybe at one point it was I have NO CLUE but at present, and for at least the last six years (my experience with it) it hasnt been an indicator of USNA’s interest in a candidate. That comes in the form of an LOA/Offer of appointment at a later date.

The GREAT NEWS????? Is your DS’s lack of an invite in no way affects his application! Good luck to him. Don’t let this dissuade him.

BTW…part of a BGO’s job is to help candidates. And be knowledgeable of these types of issues. It’s why we receive training. VS academy grads, who don’t have the same training specific to admissions processes and programs. While they did obtain an appointment and graduate, they haven’t received training specific to NASS, stated from USNA Admissions. Not saying they don’t have great info, but I know more about the process, due to my training, than either of my Mids do. Understandably!!

Just don’t discount UNSA interest and give up based upon this. Bc it’s an inaccurate assumption.
 
I applied to Summer Seminar pretty late, probably mid march, I was told I would receive an email by April 15th, but I never received an email, I checked every inbox, is there anything I should do?
 
I was accepted the day after the app closed. For Westpoint, they just denied me about 3 weeks after their decisions came out.
 
i had two DSs apply for SS,in january. one DS got denial email april 14.the other has not heard anything about SS,yet in early february he was invited to CVW.and he attended that in early march.
he has been patiently waiting.
any advice? he was thinking of contacting admissions. ?
 
Breyer said:
I know applicants are told they’ll be contacted by 4/15, but I’m curious….
Anyone else still awaiting word on NASS?
Applied a couple days after it opened in January. Thanks!
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I applied to Summer STEM on March 17 and am having the same problem. Not sure if it means you didn't get in or if they are just late.
 
SC 27 said:
i had two DSs apply for SS,in january. one DS got denial email april 14.the other has not heard anything about SS,yet in early february he was invited to CVW.and he attended that in early march.
he has been patiently waiting.
any advice? he was thinking of contacting admissions. ?
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My son is in exact same boat as yours...applied for SS 1/15, attended CVW and hasn't heard anything
 
TCartens said:
Just received email, son was denied. Seems to be a trend with us applying early, USAFA Summer camp 2021, USNA Summer Camp 2022, USMA Summer Camp 2021, applied early, all denied. Looks like ROTC or enlisting or something else for my son.
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My son did not get accepted into summer seminar and he is a Plebe 2025. He did do the summer STEM camp after Freshman year and the rowing camp after Junior year. Look into one of the sports camps to get him onto campus if you are able. I have heard many theories about the whys and wherefores of selection, but all I know is you keep moving forward until you hear the final "No". It was a long road for us and I truly never thought he would get accepted after rounds with DODMERB. We did not get the final acceptance until May of last year. If your son really wants this keep putting one foot in front of the other. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
 
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