November NROTC board results known?

patentesq said:
You mean he administered the PFT while conducting the interview??? Those Marines are truly tough characters!!
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Haha, yes they are. Actually, they took their photos first, then administered the PFT with the run being last, and then after the run took them back inside and conducted the interviews! Stinky, sweaty, yuk!
 
Patentesq: FWIW my thoughts

1. Not necessarily, DS awarded NROTC to Villanova (52K) in Oct.

2. Could be, DS electrical engineering.

3. Not necessarily, Villanova doesn't do rolling admissions either and we just found out DS was accepted yesterday.

4. Not at all, DS was also appointed to USNA In Oct.

5. Not necessarily, DS was awarded NROTC(1st board), AROTC(1st board) appointed USNA(Oct) but rejected by AFROTC (also 1st board).
 
Patentesq: Sorry if above message is confusing but I couldn't figure out how to quote your original message in my reply.
 
Roway said:
2. Could be, DS electrical engineering.
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Thanks, Roway. You've answered my questions!

Those who are still waiting: Are most of you "Tier 2" majors?

Those who have received NROTC awards: Are most of you "Tier 1" majors?
 
I'm a Tier 2 major, USNA 3Q'ed with nomination (though still biting my nails for an appointment), and applied to all pricey private schools besides the mandatory state school. I'm in the same situation as your son/daughter, parentsq.
 
Hi! I've been anxiously watching these threads...ever hopeful that everyone gets the outcome that they desire.

My son applied for MO NROTC and was notified last week that he received the scholarship to his #1 school - it was in state (CU-Boulder). We are incredibly happy for him. He had also applied to 6 other schools and was accepted by all, so if they had offered it at schools 2, 3, 4, or 5 he would have been good to go (if the unit had a slot). Norwich admitted him and was his 2nd choice. I will say it was a good thing we applied EARLY. I've read on these threads several times how that can come back and bite you if you haven't applied to all of your schools.

He applied as a Tier 3 major.......which makes it even more amazing that he was awarded the scholarship! He did not apply to any other ROTC or Academy - he was adamant that it was Marine Option or nothing. Hopefully, DodMERB goes well for my son and he can proceed as planned. I'm so amazed at all these great kids that have gotten multiple offers. Something to be very very proud of.

It sounds like there is some "movement" out there, so hopefully the wait will be over soon.

Good luck to all!
 
Tier 3 right here haha.


So I would not be surprised if I do not end up with a scholarship...but we will have to wait and see.
 
patentesq said:
Thanks, Roway. You've answered my questions!

Those who are still waiting: Are most of you "Tier 2" majors?

Those who have received NROTC awards: Are most of you "Tier 1" majors?
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I'm a Tier 2 (engineering) and I got mine towards the end of February.
 
Thanks,folks! There doesn't appear to be any discernable pattern. Unlike the SA's, there don't appear to be any "Class of 20XX" stats. I guess it really comes down to fate on the ROTC front. Oh well.
 
Patentesq - I'm going to try to reply to a few of your thoughts here as well. I just had a couple questions up front, if you don't mind answering them! What are your son's schools he had listed? I'm just curious because while we were waiting on MIT, my son was getting placed on waitlists for his other choices, but nearly all of them were already full, despite all being "pricey private schools that are hard to get into" :wink:. Also, when did your son apply? I can only assume that my son had a huge advantage of having everything complete in mid-Sept, which got him the scholarship in November. My son's choices were MIT, Michigan (just as pricey as any of the others since we're OOS) - this was when they allowed you back then to not list an instate school, Northwestern, RPI, and Carnegie Mellon. His scores also weren't as strong as your son's (he never took the SAT, but his ACT conversion shown on his NROTC page shows 800 math and 700 CR). To address your points:

1. We WERE told when he tried to switch his scholarship to Michigan that they were full to OOS students but had unlimited instate scholarships. Similarly, if he wanted WI, he'd be guaranteed a slot. Since they gave him MIT scholarship in Nov, that doesn't seem to be an indicator of filling state schools.

2. He did select Chemical/Nuclear Engineering so this could be as others said.

3. I feel that most of my DS' choices are also crap shoot ones and was told that they don't consider whether or not you are accepted (or are likely to be).

4. DS got his USNA appointment in December so there didn't seem to be a correlation.

5. Well, then we did the other way. DS only got a Tier 7 AFROTC scholarship (instate tuition only) and not until several months after he got his 4 year NROTC one.

patentesq said:
I think PFT is only for Marine Option. Navy didn't require it. AT LEAST I HOPE NOT!! :eek:
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He never did a PFT either (other than for AFROTC).

Roway said:
1. Not necessarily, DS awarded NROTC to Villanova (52K) in Oct.

2. Could be, DS electrical engineering.

3. Not necessarily, Villanova doesn't do rolling admissions either and we just found out DS was accepted yesterday.

4. Not at all, DS was also appointed to USNA In Oct.

5. Not necessarily, DS was awarded NROTC(1st board), AROTC(1st board) appointed USNA(Oct) but rejected by AFROTC (also 1st board).
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Just had to quote this since your son's experiences seem pretty similar to my son's!

Good luck to everyone!
 
Hi, Marciemi! I expect that my DS is eyeballing the same types of schools as your DS (my DS has applied to Harvard, Northwestern, Stanford, etc.). Congrats to your DS on MIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't submit his NROTC app until November 2010, but I figured this wasn't a big deal because there were boards every two weeks. Guess I was wrong. But then he did get a 4-yr Type 2 AFROTC.

Part of me thinks that DS may have received a mediocre eval in his NROTC interview (we don't know how that turned out). For NROTC, he interviewed with a newbie-Chief Petty Officer, who may not have known what is a good interview score, but for AROTC he got a 200/200 interview score from a seasoned AROTC cadre member who knows the scholarship game. Maybe that's just fate, I suppose, and stuff like that happens -- you can't please everyone.

Totally agree with the crap-shoot nature of some of these schools. If only my DS had only followed my advice to climb Mt. Everest before the age of 13, obtain 4 varsity letters in Yodeling, inventing a cure for cancer, and starring in a leading role in the latest Harry Potter film, he would definitely be in business for some of these schools!!

That all said, I think USMA is totally in the same league as any of the "crap shoot" schools. My DS couldn't be more grateful for that opportunity.

Admittedly, though, March 30, 2011 at 5pm Eastern will be a very stressful time for my DS (that's when the Ivy leagues announce admissions). :smile:
 
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Well, if your son gets into Harvard and mine ends up at MIT, they could be in the same unit! Luckily we have no Ivy's on our wait list so we're done stressing with the acceptance part. Unfortunately the same isn't true for the Dodmerb part, so we'll be on hold for quite awhile (at least until May 2 when he can have his next follow up exam/MRI). Best of luck to your son next week when those decisions come out though!

Funny on the NROTC interview. My son went to his interview and was met by a female Lt Commander who told him she knew nothing about ROTC and that her job was just to make sure he showed up in the right place, at the right time, dressed appropriately, and not 50 pounds overweight. Since he'd worn a tie and even brought a copy of his resume, he evidently passed that test! He was there a total of maybe 5 minutes. So whereas I think his 2 hour interview with the rep from MIT may have helped him there (my son is a natural talker :wink: ), somehow I don't think the same was true for NROTC!

Finally, this year my son had to research a Political Action Committee for his government class and chose the Cloud Appreciation Society. He even paid the dues to join this (British-based) group and enjoyed finding out about it. He's convinced that adding that he was a member of that society to his mid-term report for MIT in January is what got him the acceptance!! :shake:
 
patentesq said:
He didn't submit his NROTC app until November 2010, but I figured this wasn't a big deal because there were boards every two weeks. Guess I was wrong. But then he did get a 4-yr Type 2 AFROTC.
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We made that mistake our first time through. (I figured two months before the deadline sounded pretty darn early. I had no idea that early meant 5 or 6 months before the deadline.) Plus, was it just that your part of the application was done in November? Do you know when the interview was submitted? Our recruiter took a long break through the holidays so even though the interview was in mid November, he didn't send it in until mid January.

I'm also surprised that your son didn't get a nomination at all for USNA. We come from a hyper competitive nomination district so I understand it's hard but I imagine your son's SAT's are well high enough. I imagine he also took the hardest classes and has a great GPA & EC's, despite not having cured cancer.

Have you spoken to someone at Pensacola to ensure that they have received a complete application? Our second time through DS app was misplaced for a few months although the website showed it as tracking.

Good luck to you!
 
basilrathbone said:
We made that mistake our first time through. (I figured two months before the deadline sounded pretty darn early. I had no idea that early meant 5 or 6 months before the deadline.) Plus, was it just that your part of the application was done in November? Do you know when the interview was submitted? Our recruiter took a long break through the holidays so even though the interview was in mid November, he didn't send it in until mid January.

I'm also surprised that your son didn't get a nomination at all for USNA. We come from a hyper competitive nomination district so I understand it's hard but I imagine your son's SAT's are well high enough. I imagine he also took the hardest classes and has a great GPA & EC's, despite not having cured cancer.

Have you spoken to someone at Pensacola to ensure that they have received a complete application? Our second time through DS app was misplaced for a few months although the website showed it as tracking.

Good luck to you!
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Thanks, basilrathbone! We did have a slight delay in submitting the application, because DS had HS transcripts sent to Pensacola. Interviewer was waiting for transcripts to be sent to him. But the delay was only a few weeks as I recall. By December, I think packet was complete. We did talk to someone in Pensacola, and DS's file appears to be complete.

As for USNA nomination, that decision was actually made by a staff person in the MOC office without any real connection to credentials. MOCs like to "spread the wealth" among their constituents, with no candidate getting a nom to all four SAs. So one kid gets a nom to USMA and another kid gets a nom to USNA and another kid gets a nom to USAFA. This way, three kids get the opportunity as opposed to one kid who can only attend one SA. This is actually a fair system, because it enables three kids to serve our country as opposed to just one kid.

The one thing I can say about this whole selection process is that there are a lot of arbitrary factors that come into play that are totally beyond the candidate's control. Each of the "elite schools", the SAs, and ROTC try to make their rosters represent America. I support this 100%. For example, the SAs use the nom process to distribute the appointments across America. The "elite schools" do this by starting out with a 50/50 distribution of women/men and go from there. So if you have an expected class of 1000, then only 500 come from the male gender. If you then take the 500 number, this works out to about 10 per state on average. If you take 10 per state, then that means less than one candidate per high school and so on and so on. It is a brutal process, but I think it is the best way to give opportunities to as many people as possible, because I think it would be unfortunate if the opportunties became concentrated in our "wealth centers" (i.e., big cities) across America.

The only way for candidates to mitigate this numbers game is to cast their net as broadly as possible. My DS did make a major mistake in this regard (actually, it was my fault for not getting involved sooner), because he missed the deadline for Senator nominations in our state. DS was advised that our local Congressman's deadline was October 31, but the Senators had set a deadline of October 1. When DS focused on this on October 2, he was already way behind and missed the Senator nom process entirely. I won't make that mistake again with DD!!

The only other thing I can say to those just starting this process is this. Just because you might think you only want Navy, you should definitely apply for the opportunities in the other services as well. Contrary to popular belief, there is actually a lot of similarity among the services. For example, what's the difference between a military police officer in the Army and a shore patrol officer in the Navy? What's the difference between a transportation officer in the Air Force, and a transportation officer in the Navy. What's the difference between a helicopter pilot in the Coast Guard and a helicopter pilot in the Navy? These are actually the bulk of the junior officer grade jobs in the services. A lot of folks start this process thinking they are going to become elite submarine officers, but the odds are that they will get assigned elsewhere, like Finance Corps, by the time commissioning comes along. If my DS had solely focused on the Navy when he started down this road, he would have had very limited opportunities at this point.

So much of our lives is actually guided by fate.

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No change in DS status...so confused as to why but my thinking is if it hasn't changed online then the answer is a NO. Anyone else see a status change?
 
jagabiti said:
No change in DS status...so confused as to why but my thinking is if it hasn't changed online then the answer is a NO. Anyone else see a status change?
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Nothing here either. I'm thinking what you're thinking. I just wish they'd tell us.:unhappy:
 
So some got early letters letting them know that they would not receive the scholarship. So we all assumed it is a "good thing" that we are still seeing NO DECISION MADE, but does anyone know if a lot of the students hanging on will still get the denial letter? It is just such a hard, long wait.
 
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