NROTC Educational Delay?

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  1. user8888

    user8888 New Member

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    I’ve seen that Army ROTC and Air Force ROTC both have (very selective) educational delay programs set in place for cadets seeking out post-undergrad education specifically for Med and Law school— see: https://www.jagcnet.army.mil/Sites/...n&documentId=13FE58A97B0DB74785257BD3006A87EB
    https://afrotc.clas.asu.edu/sites/default/files/ed_delay_law_aug_11.pdf
    Does anyone know if Navy ROTC has anything similar? Or even very selective waivers they give to graduated MIDN to pursue (in my case) law and then commission as a JAG? Or is the only route for JAG post-NROTC to apply after initial service? I’ve looked for threads on this and have found conflicting results.

    Thanks very much for any info you can provide!
     
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    I considered JAG a long time ago, so I only know a little bit; others correct me if I am wrong.

    I believe the Navy gets all the lawyers they need for JAG directly out of law school with no prior military service. I don't think the Navy has any need or interest in helping to pay for commissioned unrestricted line officers go to law school. So while it is possible, it is rare. If one's ultimate goal is to be a lawyer, I don't think NROTC is the best way to get there.
     
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    I don’t know about pre law or anything but it seems the Navy has a strong emphasis on STEM majors.
     
  4. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ 10-Year Member

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    I don’t believe any commissioning source allows new Navy officers to go to law school and then JAG.

    Once commissioned and serving in a warfare community, and after completing certain professional gates and time in service, an officer may apply for LEP. They attend law school and transition into the JAG staff community. Only a small percentage of Navy JAGs are created this way, with the majority attending civilian college, law school and applying for direct commission.

    As always, the needs of the Navy come first.

    https://www.navycollege.navy.mil/docs/LEP_SOP_correction.pdf

    And, search for:
    - Navy law education program LEP
    - Navy law student program
     
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  5. user8888

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    Thanks to all.
     
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    It may be worthwhile to check into the Coast Guard as well if you are researching options beyond Navy’s. Only CG lawyer I’ve known entered the service after law school.
     
  7. FastFood44

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    Not sure if this is what you’re looking for, but we had an ENS in our unit who commissioned regularly after 4 years in May, but then didn’t really go fully into the navy until December of that same year. This was because the ENS did a one year masters program, taking classes in the summer from May-Sept (one semester worth of masters classes) and then took another semester from Sep-December. They went off into the navy after that, as she was granted that extra time to finish her masters
     
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    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    I think there is a lot of vagueness in this. They could of done this by simply having a later report date for nuke or flight school. This could of been done without Ed delay and simply her working with her detailer. It really depends if the Navy gave her educational delay to do this. They certainly might have. The other question would be funding, did the Navy pay or not? This would determine if she incurred an additional commitment.

    Bottom line... no one should count on Ed delay. The goal is to get unrestricted line officers to the fleet. I know of no program that allows NROTC or USNA to go to law school and become a JAG directly. Plenty of programs for those in service who want to become a JAG or someone in law school who wants to pursue this path.
     
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    Absolutely. I completely understand unrestricted line is primary purpose of ROTC, NROTC particularly. It seems like out of any ROTC branch, w/ Navy the only route to go is serve first then apply to transfer for JAG. I have family history in Navy, and of course no reservations about unrestricted service, so no matter what happens I’ll be honored to be serving (should I make it through upcoming NSI and the next four years!) Only other potential route I’ve found if I decided to really pursue JAG direct after college is cross-commission to Army or Air Force, which both offer post-ROTC ed-delay for JAG/Med, but once again appears to be given out very selectively and shouldn’t count on it. Very appreciative of all the input, and I’m looking very forward to officially becoming a MIDN in a couple weeks!
     
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    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    Don’t ever count on cross commission as a path. It is rare, more rare than a Ed delay. The Navy does have Ed delay for medical school. It is also very small in numbers.
     
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    And you have go to law school remember? So if you did NROTC when would you do that and how would you pay for it? The Navy gets all the lawyers it needs by comissioning civilians directly out of law school. And they are staff officers.
     
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    I’m referring to the In-Service Procurement Program. I realize is a much less frequented route but still is an option. Once again, I’m enthusiastic about joining unrestricted line, just wanted to get input about any other potential career paths. Thanks again to all. https://www.jag.navy.mil/careers_/careers/opportunities_ipp.html