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Navyhopeful23

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My portal just updated saying I did not receive the NROTC scholarship. I am also applying to USNA and am "Complete Pending Review" with Congressional and JROTC noms but was wondering if it is even reasonable to have a chance at USNA if I wasn't even competitive enough for NROTC. Has anyone ever seen a story of someone accepted to USNA but not NROTC?

NROTC was my plan B which doesn't exist anymore but I know that it is possible to attend a college with an NROTC unit and do the college programmer route and competing for a 3 year scholarship. You have to pay tuition out of pocket for the first year im guessing? I have also heard about a NPP scholarship(NROTC Preparatory Program) for JROTC students. Would anyone have any experience/heard of this?
 
You are definitely not out of the running for USNA because you didn't get an NROTC scholarship. NROTC scholarships are nationally competitive, whereas you compete within your own district/state for USNA appointments (provided you have a nomination).
 
I have never heard of a JROTC NOM??? There are only the following valid NOM's: 1. Presidential
2. Vice Presidential
3. MOC
4. SC
5. AD or survivor of deceased AD member

You are likely still in the hunt for USNA.....if you have a MOC NOM, are Medically Qualified by DoDMerb, and pass the SA CFA, they will at least consider you. The SA's use a WCS that takes into account class rank, SAT/ACT scores, AP/IB classes, JROTC leadership, School leadership (Student Govt, NHS/BETA Club Officer, IB Community Officer, Club Officer), and CFA. The usual scoring is 60% Academics, 30% Leadership, and 10% CFA. You may not have qualified for NROTC because of the way they evaluate candidates but may still have a shot at USNA. Each one is different and not related to the other. Your USNA portal should tell you where you stand.

Also, call your NROTC Commander because AROTC has three Boards, one in October, one in January, and the last one in March. If anyone who receives a scholarship in either October or January does not accept by April then those who the Board has on wait get the chance. Also, because you did not get the 4yr NROTC, you can attend as a paying freshman, participate in NROTC do well and get a NROTC 3yr Scholarship after your freshman year.
 
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Navyhopeful23 said:
Has anyone ever seen a story of someone accepted to USNA but not NROTC?
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There are many posts about people getting into USNA but not NROTC. You are still in the running until they tell you you're not.

Impulsive said:
I have never heard of a JROTC NOM???
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For Navy JROTC you can get a nom if your unit is a "Distinguished Unit With Honors". Not sure how other JROTC programs work. From what I've read, not many people get into USNA on a JROTC nom, so best to pursue all potential nom sources.
 
Impulsive said:
I have never heard of a JROTC NOM??? There are only the following valid NOM's: 1. Presidential
2. Vice Presidential
3. MOC
4. SC
5. AD or survivor of deceased AD member

You are likely still in the hunt for USNA.....if you have a MOC NOM, are Medically Qualified by DoDMerb, and pass the SA CFA, they will at least consider you. The SA's use a WCS that takes into account class rank, SAT/ACT scores, AP/IB classes, JROTC leadership, School leadership (Student Govt, NHS/BETA Club Officer, IB Community Officer, Club Officer), and CFA. The usual scoring is 60% Academics, 30% Leadership, and 10% CFA. You may not have qualified for NROTC because of the way they evaluate candidates but may still have a shot at USNA. Each one is different and not related to the other. Your USNA portal should tell you where you stand.

Also, call your NROTC Commander because AROTC has three Boards, one in October, one in January, and the last one in March. If anyone who receives a scholarship in either October or January does not accept by April then those who the Board has on wait get the chance. Also, because you did not get the 4yr NROTC, you can attend as a paying freshman, participate in NROTC do well and get a NROTC 3yr Scholarship after your freshman year.
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From USNA.edu website:
https://www.usna.edu/Admissions/Apply/NROTC-Units.php

“All Navy ROTC units and all Navy and Marine Corps JROTC units are eligible to nominate three candidates each year. All Navy and Marine Corps JROTC units designated as Honor Units with Distinction are eligible to nominate an additional three candidates each. All Army and Air Force JROTC units designated as Honor Units with Distinction are eligible to nominate three candidates. Army and Air Force units must submit a copy of their order along with the nominated. Student must currently be in the JROTC or ROTC unit. Past participation does not qualify.”

The Service Academy Superintendents have a small number of discretionary noms that cannot be applied for.

USNA does not publish its whole candidate scoring formula, and it may or may not be the same as other SAs. I am sure the major areas of evaluation are the same, but weighting multiples likely varies.
 
Capt MJ said:
The Service Academy Superintendents have a small number of discretionary noms that cannot be applied for.
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Sir, do you know how many appointment slots are set aside for NROTC/JROTC? How many people can be appointed charged to this nomination category?
 
Well thank you Capt. They definitely DO NOT publicize that fact! There is an AFJROTC unit at my DS's school, but the best and highest ranking cadet three years ago had to get a MOC NOM to go to the AF Academy. His father said they could not nominate him from the unit. And on almost all the SA's admissions websites they fail to mention JROTC NOMS at all. Wish I had this info four years ago, my DS would not have had to endue 4 yrs of IB/AP and go through the MOC Process.....

Could it be for USNA only? USMA and USMMA do not mention JROTC NOM's at all?
 
Navyhopeful23 said:
Sir, do you know how many appointment slots are set aside for NROTC/JROTC? How many people can be appointed charged to this nomination category?
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I am sorry, I do not. It almost seems like I have seen the number somewhere, but I won’t guess. Let’s hope another poster pops up with the facts from a primary source.

I’m a ma’am, by the way, and I thank you for your courtesy. I appreciate the thought.
 
Impulsive said:
Well thank you Capt. They definitely DO NOT publicize that fact! There is an AFJROTC unit at my DS's school, but the best and highest ranking cadet three years ago had to get a MOC NOM to go to the AF Academy. His father said they could not nominate him from the unit. And on almost all the SA's admissions websites they fail to mention JROTC NOMS at all. Wish I had this info four years ago, my DS would not have had to endue 4 yrs of IB/AP and go through the MOC Process.....

Could it be for USNA only? USMA and USMMA do not mention JROTC NOM's at all?
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Here is the JROTC info on USMA.edu
https://www.usma.edu/admissions/prospective-cadets/nomination-information

For USAFA, it appears nom sources are limited to honor JROTC units
https://www.academyadmissions.com/admissions/the-application-process/nominations/

Coast Guard, of course, is not constrained under a nomination system.

USMMA’s website, in the nominations area, indicates it does not accept noms from ROTC programs.


This is one of the classic reasons experienced posters here tell applicants to read every drop-down, link and page on the edu sites, take detailed notes, and if in doubt, call Admissions or other assigned rep and get the answer from the primary source.

You only consolation here is that undoubtedly those interested in applying downstream will have learned something!
 
Impulsive said:
If anyone who receives a scholarship in either October or January does not accept by April then those who the Board has on wait get the chance.
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I'd sure like to see your source on that. The boards plan for a certain percentage of scholarships not to be accepted and build that into the number that they offer. They know that some who are awarded scholarships will accept appointments to SAs, to another ROTC branch or accept some other scholarship. They build this into the number of scholarships offered. Scholarships are not "recycled" if not accepted. The OP received notification that he/she was not selected for a NROTC scholarship. This is the time of year these notices start coming out as the boards start preparing for final selections. As @ders_dad pointed out, the OP may still receive a USNA appointment, due to the way those appointments are made. Every year candidates receive SA nominations, but not ROTC and the other way around as well. The OP can also join NROTC as a college programmer, paying for everything and reapply for the 4 year scholarship in the fall as a college freshman. If not successful there; apply for the 3 year scholarship in the spring. If not successful there, apply for the 2 year scholarship and finally apply for advanced standing. No financial benefits start until one of these is awarded, but if you are determined to become a naval officer, have the aptitude and are willing to work hard, you can make it happen.
 
Capt MJ said:
I am sorry, I do not. It almost seems like I have seen the number somewhere, but I won’t guess. Let’s hope another poster pops up with the facts from a primary source.

I’m a ma’am, by the way, and I thank you for your courtesy. I appreciate the thought.
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I am so sorry! My apologies on assuming. Thank you so much though for your advice. Will continue to look into it and be hopeful for USNA and start looking at the college programmer route.
 
Navyhopeful23 said:
My portal just updated saying I did not receive the NROTC scholarship. I am also applying to USNA and am "Complete Pending Review" with Congressional and JROTC noms but was wondering if it is even reasonable to have a chance at USNA if I wasn't even competitive enough for NROTC. Has anyone ever seen a story of someone accepted to USNA but not NROTC?

NROTC was my plan B which doesn't exist anymore but I know that it is possible to attend a college with an NROTC unit and do the college programmer route and competing for a 3 year scholarship. You have to pay tuition out of pocket for the first year im guessing? I have also heard about a NPP scholarship(NROTC Preparatory Program) for JROTC students. Would anyone have any experience/heard of this?
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Every year folks do not win NROTC scholarships and receive appointments to USNA. One has nothing to do with the other. You are correct that you can enroll in NROTC without the scholarship and still have some opportunities to compete for a scholarship through your sophomore year. This was my son's path and he earned a scholarship halfway through his sophomore year. So yes you can be awarded a scholarship at some point. However, you may never win a scholarship, but can be awarded advanced standing and still commission in the Navy. I've known folks who have done that too. My only point is that you may have to pay tuition for more than the 1st year. Just want to set expectations. If you work hard, get great grades, excellent PFT scores, and demonstrate sound leadership, you have a very good chance of being awarded a scholarship.
 
Navyhopeful23 said:
Capt MJ said:
The Service Academy Superintendents have a small number of discretionary noms that cannot be applied for.
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Sir, do you know how many appointment slots are set aside for NROTC/JROTC? How many people can be appointed charged to this nomination category?
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I'm pretty sure the max number that can be appointed is 20. This is from all JROTC and ROTC nomination sources.
 
Navyhopeful23 said:
My portal just updated saying I did not receive the NROTC scholarship. I am also applying to USNA and am "Complete Pending Review" with Congressional and JROTC noms but was wondering if it is even reasonable to have a chance at USNA if I wasn't even competitive enough for NROTC. Has anyone ever seen a story of someone accepted to USNA but not NROTC?

NROTC was my plan B which doesn't exist anymore but I know that it is possible to attend a college with an NROTC unit and do the college programmer route and competing for a 3 year scholarship. You have to pay tuition out of pocket for the first year im guessing? I have also heard about a NPP scholarship(NROTC Preparatory Program) for JROTC students. Would anyone have any experience/heard of this?
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As someone who is currently a NROTC college programmer I would like to point out that as long as you don't have over 30 college credits you can reapply for the 4 year national during your freshman year. This means you'll get a total of 3 looks for scholarship. The 4 year after your first semester, the 3 year at the end of your freshman year, and the 2 year at the end of your sophomore year.
 
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