Police Record Check

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Currently, I am in the process of completing the paperwork after accepting my appointment, but I am stuck on the Police Record Check. I have tried contacting my local police department but all they told me was that the Naval Academy had to directly request the form to be completed. I have tried the local station as well as their records and documents departments. I'm unsure as to who else I should contact. Any help would be appreciated.
 
This is common. Suggest you ask: local police, county sherif's office & state police. If they all say no...write a letter to Admissions telling them the three organizations that declined to help. You should check with Admissions using the online widget...to make sure this is a good plan. Admissions likely gets a lot of police agencies declining (some states have laws or regs against giving out the information this way).
 
My boys used the State Patrol. Only bc they were the easiest to work with.

If you explain it’s not a professional, in depth background check? That may help. Talk to them and explain what you need it for. It still may be a ‘no we cannot do that’, but explaining it may help.
 
Currently, I am in the process of completing the paperwork after accepting my appointment, but I am stuck on the Police Record Check. I have tried contacting my local police department but all they told me was that the Naval Academy had to directly request the form to be completed. I have tried the local station as well as their records and documents departments. I'm unsure as to who else I should contact. Any help would be appreciated.
Quick Question- did you try asking for the Records Department when you called or went in? I work in Records at a PD in Minnesota. We get these every year. The person answering the phone may not understand what you are looking for, but the people working in the Records Department will. I agree with the other replies- but sometimes it is how you ask. If you have had bad luck over the phone, if you can, try walking in with the Record Check form in hand. Let them know you are looking for "police contacts only", not a background check, and that it is needed for school.

If anyone needs help with this, please feel free to message me and I am happy to call your local police departments on your behalf to try to facilitate the process. So sorry you are having trouble!
 
My daughter was able to give it to the resource officer at her high school and he took care of it. This is probably the best option for students who have a resource officer. Do you know anyone else from your area, who has attended USNA, who you could ask?
 
Quick Question- did you try asking for the Records Department when you called or went in? I work in Records at a PD in Minnesota. We get these every year. The person answering the phone may not understand what you are looking for, but the people working in the Records Department will. I agree with the other replies- but sometimes it is how you ask. If you have had bad luck over the phone, if you can, try walking in with the Record Check form in hand. Let them know you are looking for "police contacts only", not a background check, and that it is needed for school.

If anyone needs help with this, please feel free to message me and I am happy to call your local police departments on your behalf to try to facilitate the process. So sorry you are having trouble!
I tried calling the Records Department but I said it was a rap sheet check. I will try asking for police contacts.

Would it be better to walk into my local station or the records department at the police headquarters? (I live in LA)
 
I tried calling the Records Department but I said it was a rap sheet check. I will try asking for police contacts.

Would it be better to walk into my local station or the records department at the police headquarters? (I live in LA)
So frustrating! I'd try walking in to your local PD first. I like what other people have said about using their School Resource Officer too. If there is one at your school I would definitely ask them for their help as well.
 
We had issues with this with DD's application years ago, but I am sure solutions vary from state to state, county to county, municipality to municipally, desk officer to desk officer.

Really you don't need alot of direction to resolve this. The answer is: When working with ANY government organization you NEVER accept the first "No"; "I don't know"; not "my problem" or an absurd additional form/input/requirement in order to act on your request.

If the school resource officer won't handle it, make a call to your local police station, If they don't help you, call City Hall info desk and ask for help.

Never get angry, just ask for help; If you get an "I don't know," you always ask for a referral to a person or resource who does know, or can get you closer to someone who does know. Its not your job to ask EXACTLY the right questiion.

Never denigrate the last person you called who wouldn't help. Just "Hi, I have been accepted to the USNA They need a copy of my police records, I've called X, Y, Z and I can't seem to get this done; can you help me?" Trust me, with that pitch someone will make an effort to help you, you just have to work the chain.

Note to STEM types: for this kinda stuff knowing the "right answer" is great; learning how to work your way up a government "responsibility-chain" and understanding they are supposed to help you is priceless. I'm quessing your issue resolves in 2-3 phone calls.

Just my put: Congratulations!
 
I tried calling the Records Department but I said it was a rap sheet check. I will try asking for police contacts.

Would it be better to walk into my local station or the records department at the police headquarters? (I live in LA)
Yes, walking in definitely helps. My son did this last year. We live in one county and he attended schools in two other counties, so he had multiple places to visit- city, county, and state offices. Some offered nothing but he did find a few that would help. Be ready to be sent from one person, to another, to another.
 
I tried calling the Records Department but I said it was a rap sheet check. I will try asking for police contacts.

Would it be better to walk into my local station or the records department at the police headquarters? (I live in LA)
DS had similar issue last year. City where he went to school was no problem, but the local police indicated over the phone they would not complete. DS showed up at local police station with paperwork and return envelope prepped. Explained situation and asked to speak with someone - they were able to connect him with the appropriate person who completed and mailed directly. It took 10 min in person to resolve.
It's more difficult to say no when someone is standing in front of you politely asking for assistance with a reasonable request.
 
I tried calling the Records Department but I said it was a rap sheet check. I will try asking for police contacts.

Would it be better to walk into my local station or the records department at the police headquarters? (I live in LA)
So if you used the phrase "rap sheet" that may be the issue. I am a police officer in California. A "rap sheet" in law enforcement lingo is a criminal record/arrest record. Those records are accessed through a state controlled database and cannot be accessed without a documented right to know/need to know. And this would only show arrests and convictions. USNA wants to know any interactions you have had with law enforcement; were you a victim of theft, cited for speeding, have police responded to your house for a loud party/underage drinking, etc. These would not show up on a "rap sheet". What you need is a record of police contacts/involvements. The verbiage for this would probably vary depending on your geographic location. That is why your best option probably is to go in person, form in hand, so the person helping you can look at what is being requested. As was posted earlier, you want to speak to someone in Records.
 
This is a spitball, but in the annual conversations that come up about this here on SAF, I could swear we had a post where someone dropped in at the local joint forces recruiting station to ask those savvy senior enlisted recruiters how they advised their recruits with the same accession requirement. I bet they know who, what to ask for, where they are and how to get it done with the least bureaucratic hang-ups.

In the Navy we say “Ask the Chief,” as in any of the 3 grades of Chief Petty Officer. Helping clueless people (especially wet-behind-ears types) with savvy advice has been their trademark secret power for centuries. It’s true across all services, though the language may differ.
 
I tried calling the Records Department but I said it was a rap sheet check. I will try asking for police contacts.

Would it be better to walk into my local station or the records department at the police headquarters? (I live in LA)
We live in LA and didn't get far with the LAPD. My DS went to the local station to make a request and they kindly rejected him. He then tried the LA County Sheriff and they finally helped. He had to drive down to their records department, south east of LA, to drop off the forms and then returned at a future date to get the signed document.
 
Currently, I am in the process of completing the paperwork after accepting my appointment, but I am stuck on the Police Record Check. I have tried contacting my local police department but all they told me was that the Naval Academy had to directly request the form to be completed. I have tried the local station as well as their records and documents departments. I'm unsure as to who else I should contact. Any help would be appreciated.
[Update] I was able to get the form completed through a different LAPD station. My suggestion for anyone in LA or California, in general, is to ask for the detective division and tell them that you do not need a copy of your record. I hope this helps. Thank you to everyone who commented on my post.
 
My kid ran into the same think. Clerk refused to offer assistance. Right at that moment the Assistant Chief of Police walked in who had been my kid's baseball coach. Problem got solved immediately but might have had a different outcome if not for that fortuitous meeting.
 
Our police station mailed it to USNA three weeks ago (also mailed a copy to DD). However, still not uploaded on portal by USNA. She called to see if SHE should upload her copy and they said no.Has anyone had there’s completed/uploaded/marked received?
 
Our police station mailed it to USNA three weeks ago (also mailed a copy to DD). However, still not uploaded on portal by USNA. She called to see if SHE should upload her copy and they said no.Has anyone had there’s completed/uploaded/marked received?
During my son’s admission cycle it was received by admissions and confirmed with staff. But it did take a while to show as received in the portal.

As always, the hardest thing is finding patience.
 
While I have no dog in this fight, I am surprised at how many people have been struggling with this. It seems that a simple letter on USNA letterhead explaining what they require and with the proper address to send it to would avoid all of this.

And I think with a mild suggestion by any of the BGO folks this could be arranged. And since it's spring break and I am a little unoccupied I am happy to find someone at the Academy to take this on. But I think at the level I would be sending this off a lot of people will be asked if this is a serious issue or not.

People should not be having to make a bunch of phone calls and roll the dice hoping to find someone helpful. 🤔
 
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Currently, I am in the process of completing the paperwork after accepting my appointment, but I am stuck on the Police Record Check. I have tried contacting my local police department but all they told me was that the Naval Academy had to directly request the form to be completed. I have tried the local station as well as their records and documents departments. I'm unsure as to who else I should contact. Any help would be appreciated.
In Maryland, and hopefully you live in Maryland, it is called Criminal Background Check, you need to be fingerprinted at a private provider's office or sometimes at a local law enforcement agency that has the livescan capabilities. The fingerprints are submitted to the State of Maryland and the results mailed to you in a few days. I helped many Midshipmen with this requirement. Some states are similar and some, a mess haha. I hope this helps
 
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