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ConsumedPenny

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Greetings everyone! I recently accepted my appointment and they ask of me to provide three documents (one of them being the Police Record Form). I have been having a hard time getting this document done because of the confusing nature of it, and so I hope I can get some answers to my questions. Firstly, when they tell you to send the form to all jurisdictions you fall under, how are you supposed to determine that? I talked to my BGO and they just said my local sheriff's department, but I'm confused on if I should ask my school's law enforcement as well. When I asked my local sheriff's office to fill out the form they told me that my recruiter should be the one that approaches them to give them the Police Record form, which I found odd because I don't have a naval recruiter. My BGO told me to call my local naval recruitment office and so I did, explaining to them situation. They said they would help me, however, I feel like I am doing the process wrongly. Does anyone have any insight on this? Thank you!
 
ConsumedPenny said:
Greetings everyone! I recently accepted my appointment and they ask of me to provide three documents (one of them being the Police Record Form). I have been having a hard time getting this document done because of the confusing nature of it, and so I hope I can get some answers to my questions. Firstly, when they tell you to send the form to all jurisdictions you fall under, how are you supposed to determine that? I talked to my BGO and they just said my local sheriff's department, but I'm confused on if I should ask my school's law enforcement as well. When I asked my local sheriff's office to fill out the form they told me that my recruiter should be the one that approaches them to give them the Police Record form, which I found odd because I don't have a naval recruiter. My BGO told me to call my local naval recruitment office and so I did, explaining to them situation. They said they would help me, however, I feel like I am doing the process wrongly. Does anyone have any insight on this? Thank you!
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my DD is having issues with this form too! Last weekend she went to a police station in our BIG city, they told her NO they dont do those and could not give her any info on where to get it filled out - crazy! She is planning on reaching out to some Midshipmen that are from our city to see what they did. I wish I could give you better advice.......not sure how the recruiter would help? I will circle back once we have some answers......
 
Ok deep breath. You are not wrong to be confused. Our DS worked in one jurisdiction, went to school in another and lived in another. He made pre addressed stamped envelopes addressed to where the SA said they should be sent. He typed a quick paragraph explaining what the doc was and why he needed them to fill it out and attached a copy to each record request. He hand carried them to each of the three offices. That was last cycle and was in a rural area.
One of the offices gave push back. We politely explained and they agreed to do it. We had to explain it isn’t a background check. It isn’t an in depth search. Just read the doc and fill it out. No biggie, pre addressed envelope there and thank you so much for your help.
 
Heatherg21 said:
Ok deep breath. You are not wrong to be confused. Our DS worked in one jurisdiction, went to school in another and lived in another. He made pre addressed stamped envelopes addressed to where the SA said they should be sent. He typed a quick paragraph explaining what the doc was and why he needed them to fill it out and attached a copy to each record request. He hand carried them to each of the three offices. That was last cycle and was in a rural area.
One of the offices gave push back. We politely explained and they agreed to do it. We had to explain it isn’t a background check. It isn’t an in depth search. Just read the doc and fill it out. No biggie, pre addressed envelope there and thank you so much for your help.
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yes my girl did the exact same thing - I had read another post you did on this topic so I told her to do it that exact way - anyway - the guy was rude and not helpful - she tried to explain its not a background check and he would have nothing to do with it - so she took her folder with the stuff in it and left - going to try again this weekend....I am thinking if she goes to a station that has experience with this it will be easier - hence reaching out to people she knows at USNA from our city - we shall see....we only need one city to sign off bc we live and she goes to school in the same city and county. the other thought I had was have her call the police officer that works with our neighborhood for crime prevention, he should be able to direct her!!
 
USNAhopeful2025 said:
my DD is having issues with this form too! Last weekend she went to a police station in our BIG city, they told her NO they dont do those and could not give her any info on where to get it filled out - crazy! She is planning on reaching out to some Midshipmen that are from our city to see what they did. I wish I could give you better advice.......not sure how the recruiter would help? I will circle back once we have some answers......
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When I was talking to the recruiter they said that they do background checks, but as said by Heatherg21, it's only a little form they have to fill out. I think I'm going to reach out to some midshipmen in my area as well and see what they did. This form is making me anxious, so I just want to be done with it!
 
What we ran into was officers or desk personnel who misunderstood this to be some form of a background check. Once we explained it was a preliminary did you or did you not have contact with said candidate it got easier. And I will always advocate for saying thank you sir or ma’am to someone who isn’t helping. And calling back to get someone else who you can enlist in your endeavor.
 
ConsumedPenny said:
When I was talking to the recruiter they said that they do background checks, but as said by Heatherg21, it's only a little form they have to fill out. I think I'm going to reach out to some midshipmen in my area as well and see what they did. This form is making me anxious, so I just want to be done with it!
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If you have had no contact or issues with law enforcement you have no reason to be anxious. Settle in and methodically work the problem. You have nothing to hide. These are logistical and admin issues you can work through. Part of getting through any process is logistically figuring out how you can maneuver and get done what you need done. It’s not a cheat. It is a successful completion of your mission.
 
ConsumedPenny said:
Greetings everyone! I recently accepted my appointment and they ask of me to provide three documents (one of them being the Police Record Form). I have been having a hard time getting this document done because of the confusing nature of it, and so I hope I can get some answers to my questions. Firstly, when they tell you to send the form to all jurisdictions you fall under, how are you supposed to determine that? I talked to my BGO and they just said my local sheriff's department, but I'm confused on if I should ask my school's law enforcement as well. When I asked my local sheriff's office to fill out the form they told me that my recruiter should be the one that approaches them to give them the Police Record form, which I found odd because I don't have a naval recruiter. My BGO told me to call my local naval recruitment office and so I did, explaining to them situation. They said they would help me, however, I feel like I am doing the process wrongly. Does anyone have any insight on this? Thank you!
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Your jurisdictions are likely the: State Police, City/Town Police, County Sherif. Many law enforcement agencies will not release this information-some jurisdictions have laws against release. If that's the case provide a letter to that effect for Admissions. Admissions is used to this. Do not ignore the form. It's easy, unless there is a criminal history. Good luck.
 
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And if place A says no, try place B. Or C. Lots of law enforcement to choose from. It’s really quite simple in theory: a cursory attestation of criminal ‘stuff’. The SA will ultimately know all about you through whatever magic they do once you report. Find someplace to sign the form, in whatever method they require (ie both sons emailed, and the office forwarded to USNA. Super duper easy). Often, if you explain what this piece is to xx office, they are helpful.

Lots of options for this: SRO, sheriff, city, state. Etc. You only need ONE!! And this is a HEAVILY discussed form every cycle. Obviously, USNA cannot know all the nuances of every state, every law enforcement policy. So it’s up to the user to figure it out 💙

Congrats on the appointment!!
 
justdoit19 said:
You only need ONE!!
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The instructions say "You will need to provide each agency or office described above with a copy of the Police Record Check Form..." I recommend following the instructions as best you can, and sending a letter to Admissions explaining what you have done or if a Jurisdiction will not fill out the form.
 
rickdunnjr said:
The instructions say "You will need to provide each agency or office described above with a copy of the Police Record Check Form..." I recommend following the instructions as best you can, and sending a letter to Admissions explaining what you have done or if a Jurisdiction will not fill out the form.
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Both of my Mids sent in one, from State police, as our City wanted to charge and they didn’t want to pay for this. So they called the State police and it was done and completed in an hour, accepted by USNA, no issues, no problems. Without letters accompanying from City, County, and School law enforcement accompanying.

Sharing that, as a matter of practicality, one sufficed, confirmed, both application cycles. So not to worry, or stress. This form seems to cause a great deal of angst and stress each year. Just do your best!! Always. And yes, primary instructions are there. But this one always seems to cause a great deal of concern/stress. The big background checks will be done after appointed (after reporting?). It’s also not hard to include a note, either.

As always, it’s all advice. To take or leave. My two had absolute no issues with one form, via the State police.
 
ConsumedPenny said:
I have been having a hard time getting this document done because of the confusing nature of it,....
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A hint with all Navy forms ... Read the Instructions, Follow the Instructions.. There is no trick language. USNA is simply trying a ascertain if the Appointee has had any run in with local law enforcement. (Actually, a confirmation of the application, as I recall it has a questions about legal actions). There is nothing confusing about jurisdiction -- for the most part its the City you live in, others the County Sheriff.

The difficulty lies in the myriad of jurisdictions being asked to sign the form ... each has a different attitude and different approach, and I expect that the size and the nature of the community plays a roll as well. I've never heard of anyone being turned away from I-day because they couldn't get the form completed. If your jurisdiction refuses, notify your Admissions Counselor and ask for his/her direction

The key to success is getting to the right person in the Department. In a smaller jurisdiction, call ahead ..talk to the Police Chief or Sheriff, or at least a Supervisor , tell them what you need, and ask them who you need to talk to. Also, like any part of the application, let the Appointee handle it. I would expect that the Police would be much more responsive to a polite, respectful youth than a parent.

Good luck.
 
Old Navy BGO said:
A hint with all Navy forms ... Read the Instructions, Follow the Instructions.. There is no trick language.

Good luck.
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Good advice: Always follow instructions in the military or when applying to a SA, unless they direct otherwise. Its very simple. Different Admissions personnel sometimes interpret failure to follow instructions as a negative...some may not as in cases you may read on the internet.
 
My mid contacted our local police department who said they don't do them, but was directed to the State Police website. Obviously it's different for each state, but in our case, there were instructions on how to request one (via online or mail) depending on what the background check was needed for (ie: housing, employment, etc). Once the forms were filled out, a completed background check was done in less than a week. Perhaps try googling "XX State Police Background check". I just tried that using our state and it came up right away with very clear instructions.
 
Even in normal years many people’s local authorities may look at them as if they have two heads when they ask. Especially with covid and many non-essential services either cut back or paused, don’t be surprised if you’re unable to cut through the red tape. Typically all you need to do in that scenario is contact the Admissions Office, and they will tell you to submit a signed affirmation stating whether you have any police record. Obviously, if you do run into issues they should be your source of information.
 
Not likely. Read it ... see the footer on the form.
 
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txfwindian said:
DD does not have access to it yet, I was just asking if that would be the case.
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I see. Almost all the SA forms are unique to that SA. Once exception might be the Questionnaire for National Security Positions (Standard Form 86). This is a OMB form.
 
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