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What are the candidate's chances of getting an appointment if he/she receives both Presidential & MOC nomination?
Presidential & MOC Nominations
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Appointments come from "SLATES" and from the "National Pool".
Each place that you can get a nomination, is a "SLATE". Each "SLATE" can give a certain number of appointments. E.g. Each MOC "Slate" gets 1 appointment; presidential "Slate" gets up to 100 appointments; ROTC "Slate" I believe gets 20 appointments; etc. ONCE all of THOSE APPOINTMENTS are given; approximately 600 appointments; all the nominees who didn't get one of those appointments go into the "National Pool" where the "Academy" will rank by score those nominees and give the remaining 600 +/- appointments.
So, when you ask what are the "Chances", that is a matter of "Perspective". Think of nominations as "Lottery Tickets" with multiple winners. If you have just 1 MOC nomination, you'll have 2 chances to win (Be appointed). From the 1 MOC's slate, and if not there, then from the national pool. If you have all 3 MOC nominations, then you have 4 chances to win (Be Appointed). A chance from EACH of the 3 MOC's slates and if not there, then in the National Pool. (You DON'T GET 3 TICKETS in the National Pool because you have 3 nominations). So, if you have 3 MOC nominations, and a Presidential, that means you have 5 chances to win (Be Appointed). 1 for each of the 3 MOC slates, 1 for the Presidential Slate, and if not there, then 1 more chance in the National Pool.
At least you asked about CHANCES and NOT what are the ODDS. Odds imply a percentage based on contestants. I.e. If 1 million lottery tickets are sold, with a guaranteed winner, and you have 1 ticket, then your odds are 1:1,000,000. However, if you have 2 tickets, your odds are 1:500,000. Appointments don't work that way. On EACH MOC SLATE, you have a 1:10 chance. So, if you have nominations to 3 MOC slates, you have 3 CHANCES, with odds of 1:10, of receiving an appointment. On average, there are about 500 +/- presidential nominations. So, being they give up to 100 nominations, your odds are 1:5 of getting an appointment there. The National Pool will have anywhere from around 2,000 - 3,000 nominees in it. But they will give out 600 +/- appointments, so in the National Pool, your odds are about 1:4 to 1:6.
Disclaimer: These numbers can't ever be accurate. The reason being, is that each time an appointment is given, that person loses all their remaining "LOTTERY TICKETS". I.e. If you and 2 others in your school all have 3 nominations, to your representative and 2 senators, and the other 2 people get appointments with the senator's "Slate", then they are no longer in the running for the representative's "SLATE". Therefor, your odds there go to 1:8 instead of 1:10. Remember also, not every district and every state's MOC's allow multiple nominations. Some have so many applying, that the MOC's talk to each other and only allow 1 nominee per person. This way more individuals have a chance. On the other hand, some districts / states don't have as many applicants, and some individuals can get all 3 nominations.
I probably didn't answer your question specifically; but that's because there is no specific answer. Your odds are continually changing. And your chances, simply mean you have 1 MORE CHANCE of getting an appointment than the person who doesn't have the Presidential. However, there may be a person with 3 MOC nominations and no presidential, and they have 1 MORE CHANCE of an appointment than you do. That's why you should try and get all the nominations you can get. it gives you more CHANCES of getting an appointment. Just don't confuse CHANCES with ODDS. They are 2 totally different things. Best of luck.
Each place that you can get a nomination, is a "SLATE". Each "SLATE" can give a certain number of appointments. E.g. Each MOC "Slate" gets 1 appointment; presidential "Slate" gets up to 100 appointments; ROTC "Slate" I believe gets 20 appointments; etc. ONCE all of THOSE APPOINTMENTS are given; approximately 600 appointments; all the nominees who didn't get one of those appointments go into the "National Pool" where the "Academy" will rank by score those nominees and give the remaining 600 +/- appointments.
So, when you ask what are the "Chances", that is a matter of "Perspective". Think of nominations as "Lottery Tickets" with multiple winners. If you have just 1 MOC nomination, you'll have 2 chances to win (Be appointed). From the 1 MOC's slate, and if not there, then from the national pool. If you have all 3 MOC nominations, then you have 4 chances to win (Be Appointed). A chance from EACH of the 3 MOC's slates and if not there, then in the National Pool. (You DON'T GET 3 TICKETS in the National Pool because you have 3 nominations). So, if you have 3 MOC nominations, and a Presidential, that means you have 5 chances to win (Be Appointed). 1 for each of the 3 MOC slates, 1 for the Presidential Slate, and if not there, then 1 more chance in the National Pool.
At least you asked about CHANCES and NOT what are the ODDS. Odds imply a percentage based on contestants. I.e. If 1 million lottery tickets are sold, with a guaranteed winner, and you have 1 ticket, then your odds are 1:1,000,000. However, if you have 2 tickets, your odds are 1:500,000. Appointments don't work that way. On EACH MOC SLATE, you have a 1:10 chance. So, if you have nominations to 3 MOC slates, you have 3 CHANCES, with odds of 1:10, of receiving an appointment. On average, there are about 500 +/- presidential nominations. So, being they give up to 100 nominations, your odds are 1:5 of getting an appointment there. The National Pool will have anywhere from around 2,000 - 3,000 nominees in it. But they will give out 600 +/- appointments, so in the National Pool, your odds are about 1:4 to 1:6.
Disclaimer: These numbers can't ever be accurate. The reason being, is that each time an appointment is given, that person loses all their remaining "LOTTERY TICKETS". I.e. If you and 2 others in your school all have 3 nominations, to your representative and 2 senators, and the other 2 people get appointments with the senator's "Slate", then they are no longer in the running for the representative's "SLATE". Therefor, your odds there go to 1:8 instead of 1:10. Remember also, not every district and every state's MOC's allow multiple nominations. Some have so many applying, that the MOC's talk to each other and only allow 1 nominee per person. This way more individuals have a chance. On the other hand, some districts / states don't have as many applicants, and some individuals can get all 3 nominations.
I probably didn't answer your question specifically; but that's because there is no specific answer. Your odds are continually changing. And your chances, simply mean you have 1 MORE CHANCE of getting an appointment than the person who doesn't have the Presidential. However, there may be a person with 3 MOC nominations and no presidential, and they have 1 MORE CHANCE of an appointment than you do. That's why you should try and get all the nominations you can get. it gives you more CHANCES of getting an appointment. Just don't confuse CHANCES with ODDS. They are 2 totally different things. Best of luck.