lykingku67
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I am not trying to rock the boat. What if there are other applicants in a certain district that has more stellar package than the principal. How would admission reacts in this situation
I am not trying to rock the boat. What if there are other applicants in a certain district that has more stellar package than the principal. How would admission reacts in this situation
An application package is made up of more things than the obvious and possibly known stats ie. gpa, standardized test scores class rank, CFA etc.. There are many other parts unknown such as letters of Rec, essays, and of course the interviews. Don’t judge others on your slate, instead focus on yourself and how you can improve your application and become 3Q.
Anyone regardless of how stellar they are must be 3Q plus have a NOM to be eligible for an appointment, including the Principal Nominee.
You are assuming too much, No one knows who is more “stellar” on an MOC slate than the Nominating committee. Admissions may see it differently but highly unlikely to overrule the MOC committees Principal pick.
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Thanks for the numbers.There are 435 members of the House of Representatives. There are 100 US Senators. That is 535. Each is allotted 5 appointees at every academy that requires a nomination. That adds up to 2675 at USNA. Using a reasonable enrollment of 4500 at USNA, that leaves 1825 appointees that are nominated from other sources. And that is even assuming that every MOC has 5 appointees each, which isn't the case.
You can analyze the figures all you want. In the end, submit the best application that you can. USNA will do the the rest.
Thanks for giving me the legal background of the issue.If you look at US Title 10 that governs nominations, the language is slightly different for USNA. While USAFA and USMA are required to appoint a principal who is 3Q, USNA is not. They are not required by US law to appointment a principal nominee. With all that being said, USNA will usually honor the principal Nom if they are 3Q. It is very rare to have a principal not get the appointment, but it has happened.
Now just because you think your package might be better, there may be something that had this person stand out above and beyond the others and why the MOC used that method. As long as that candidate is 3Q the chances are pretty high that candidate will get an Appt, but no guarantees. More than likely there was a reason this person stood out. A MOC panel isn’t going to nominate someone that doesn’t have the stats to be 3Q or the drive to make it through USNA.
Thanks for the infoAgree 100% with Hoops. To add to her comments, for obvious reasons USNA doesn't want to annoy MOC offices. Thus, if an MOC makes someone a principal and that person is 3Q, USNA likely has a pretty compelling reason not to appoint that individual. It's unlikely that USNA will simply substitute its judgment for that of the MOC panel as that defeats the purpose of a principal nom.
I have sent my best package already. Knowing your weaknesses and strengths of yourself and your competitors is winning half of the battle. I am not assuming too much and my parents told me. do not be afraid to judge but learn how to judge with candor mercy and wisdom.Thank you for your efforts in answering my question.An application package is made up of more things than the obvious and possibly known stats ie. gpa, standardized test scores class rank, CFA etc.. There are many other parts unknown such as letters of Rec, essays, and of course the interviews. Don’t judge others on your slate, instead focus on yourself and how you can improve your application and become 3Q.
Anyone regardless of how stellar they are must be 3Q plus have a NOM to be eligible for an appointment, including the Principal Nominee.
You are assuming too much, No one knows who is more “stellar” on an MOC slate than the Nominating committee. Admissions may see it differently but highly unlikely to overrule the MOC committees Principal pick.
What would happen if the principal nominee had some aspect of their application incomplete ie. medical.
Would this prevent all the other nominees from being evaluated and given a decision until the principal completes their package?
I have sent my best package already. Knowing your weaknesses and strengths of yourself and your competitors is winning half of the battle. I am not assuming too much and my parents told me. do not be afraid to judge but learn how to judge with candor mercy and wisdom.Thank you for your efforts in answering my question.
Not exactly sure how you can 'judge' the candidates also applying since you won't have access to their applications and the various other information others mentioned previously such as teacher evaluations, BGO input, etc. that even the candidate will never see. Other then perhaps meeting a few of them during your MOC interview, you wouldn't even know who all is applying. Each MOC sets their own NOM criteria which is separate from how USNA evaluates applicants. You are better off focusing on your own application and continuing to pursue your plan B rather then being overly concerned about the credentials of others applying. Many applicants apply to multiple colleges and may eventually decide to not attend an SA, you would have no way to know that about any of your competition.
Knowing your weaknesses and strengths of yourself and your competitors is winning half of the battle.