Questions about advanced standing (non scholarship)

[APM2000]

For Juniors in NROTC who have been offered advanced standing but no scholarship:

1. What is the payback time for advanced standing after commissioning (again, no scholarship paid for college tuition)?

3. Can the payback time be done as a reservist to allow the student to attend med school after graduation and commissioning?

3. Are there any financial benefits to advanced standing? (Monthly stipend etc?)

4. Do they compete with the midshipmen from NROTC who are on scholarship for the slot at USUHS (military med school at WR)?

 

[Future Jarhead]

I am assuming you are Navy Option, since you’re talking about Med School. I’m not 100% on any of these, I know more about Marine Option, anyways.

1. Advances Standing payback time is 3 years as opposed to Scholarship’s four

2.First off, having the chance to go to Med School is extremely competitive, as NROTC is not made to commission doctors, but I’m sure you knew that. From what I read on the USUHS, and this is where I’m not sure, you attend USUHS receiving Actuve Duty Pay, and generally will serve AD for the number of years you accepted that. So in your case, it would be the three years from NROTC plus the four or five years from Med School. Again, I’m not sure, so maybe someone else on this thread can correct me.

3. Advances Standing will give you a monthly stipend of 300 junior year, and 350 senior year. I am not aware of other benefits.

4. The slots available to attend any Med School at NROTC are minuscule, so yes, you will be competing against any other midshipmen who wish to do the same.

FYI a lot of this could have been found online, with a little digging.

 

[kinnem]

Can't answer #1 with certainty.
He might be able to get an education delay for med school (unlikely) but all NROTC midshipmen will serve their commitment as active duty followed by whatever their reserve requirement is.
Advanced Standing entitles the midshipman to the monthly stipend, and I think book money too but I can't swear to the book money.

 

[kinnem]

1. Advances Standing payback time is 3 years as opposed to Scholarship’s four

Scholarship midshipmen are required to serve 5 years active duty. I'm guessing advanced standing requires 4 years, but I'm not at all certain about that aspect.

Advances Standing will give you a monthly stipend of 300 junior year, and 350 senior year. I am not aware of other benefits.

It's currently $350/month for juniors and $400/month for seniors

See http://www.nrotc.navy.mil/scholarship_benefits.html
and also here: http://www.nrotc.navy.mil/military_requirements.html

 

[APM2000]

Thank you! I saw the college option program link but didn't realize that was advanced standing. I thought that was the scholarship option. I appreciate your clearing this up.

 

[APM2000]

I'm more familiar with the requirements for grad school payback time. USUHS requires 4 years payback time, plus one year for each year of residency. You're correct, NROTC is more geared towards engineers instead of producing officers for the MC or DC.

 

[Future Jarhead]

1. Advances Standing payback time is 3 years as opposed to Scholarship’s four

Scholarship midshipmen are required to serve 5 years active duty. I'm guessing advanced standing requires 4 years, but I'm not at all certain about that aspect.

Advances Standing will give you a monthly stipend of 300 junior year, and 350 senior year. I am not aware of other benefits.

It's currently $350/month for juniors and $400/month for seniors

See http://www.nrotc.navy.mil/scholarship_benefits.html
and also here: http://www.nrotc.navy.mil/military_requirements.html

Thank you kinnem, appreciate the correction

 

[kinnem]

No worries.

 

[GoCubbies]

I'm more familiar with the requirements for grad school payback time. USUHS requires 4 years payback time, plus one year for each year of residency. You're correct, NROTC is more geared towards engineers instead of producing officers for the MC or DC.

USU incurs an obligation of 7 years active duty.

Residency also incurs an active duty obligation but is served concurrently with the USU obligation.

For example, you graduate from USU and then do a 3-year family medicine residency. You owe 7 years for USU and 3 years for family medicine. Once you finish residency, you would be obligated to the military for 7 years since the 3-year family medicine residency active duty payback is served concurrently with the USU obligation.

To illustrate, you gradate from USU in 2018 (you owe 7 years at this point). You do a family medicine residency from 2018-2021. Your 7-year payback from USU starts in 2021. Your active duty service obligation for the family medicine residency is not tacked on to the 7 years. You're paying it back at the same time as the 7 years for USU. You can decide in 2028 to get out or sign a bonus to continue in the military.

Let's do another example for neurosurgery which is 7 years. You graduate USU in 2018. You do your neurosurgery residency from 2018-2025. Your 7-year USU payback starts in 2025. You can leave active duty in 2032. The 7 year payback you incurred for doing the neurosurgery residency is paid back concurrently with the USU obligation of 7 years.

 

[GoCubbies]

For Juniors in NROTC who have been offered advanced standing but no scholarship:

1. What is the payback time for advanced standing after commissioning (again, no scholarship paid for college tuition)?

3. Can the payback time be done as a reservist to allow the student to attend med school after graduation and commissioning?

3. Are there any financial benefits to advanced standing? (Monthly stipend etc?)

4. Do they compete with the midshipmen from NROTC who are on scholarship for the slot at USUHS (military med school at WR)?

The Navy goes back and forth on allowing NROTC mids go to medical school right after graduation. For the past several years, the answer is no.

If you look on the NROTC website, it talks about training for service in the unrestricted line, Navy Nurse Corps, and the Marine Corps. They seem to be serious about that. My DD sent a message to our state flagship school NROTC unit a few months ago asking about medical school after NROTC. His message wasn't a basic no... it was pretty much like... get out of here!

I suspect if you're smart enough to go to medical school, the Navy wants you in nukes. Some tongue-in-cheek there, but NROTC now isn't like 20-25 years ago where they did have a defined pipeline for grad schools.