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Thanks for the clarification. I like the sound of "lock".
I did have a “lock” as far as a club coach. She was a suer star on the pitch, in the class room , nothing negative at all. Something surprising she was unaware of came up on the physical that could not be waved. At least at that time.

So you are correct to point out that there is some risk with a SA offer
 

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A verbal commitment is merely an agreement between a coach and the player. The coach offers a spot to the player and the player commits to that spot. It can be rescinded by either party at any time. As stated earlier, for SA's the player must still go through process of application, nomination, and possible appointment. The recruited player is given some priority for appointment over non-recruited candidates as long as the recruit meets the requirements of the SA.

If I've misstated anything, please correct me.

I’d not correct a thing. Well stated

Where we might differ is how to define “some priority” for appointment. I’d consider it almost a virtual lock.

The offer at a D1 service academy from a SA coach is absolutely golden for the recruit except for things like jail, dui s, something showing up on a physical that can’t be waved (lots and lots can be and often are waved for a recruit )

It’s not going to be grades or SATs keeping the recruit out like it would be for a non recruit with similar lower grades and test scores . Not with prep school as a back up.

Thanks for the clarification. I like the sound of "lock".
@Sealion II has it correct. @Small Team Bacsi accurately describes the differences for the D1 academies. As this is the USCGA thread, it is fair to note that the amount of influence the coach has on the recruit's admission is a little less, and is more on a sliding scale depending on the recruit's ability to influence the program. I wouldn't describe a recruit whose academics and standarized scores are well below average as a lock, but if they are a program altering talent, they may very well get through. The less influence the player will have on the program, and the lower the academic profile, the less likely they will get in. The coaches do a good job of screening their recruits - they know who and how many they can get in. The specific sport also plays a part - not all coaches have the same influence.
 

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@Sealion II has it correct. @Small Team Bacsi accurately describes the differences for the D1 academies. As this is the USCGA thread, it is fair to note that the amount of influence the coach has on the recruit's admission is a little less, and is more on a sliding scale depending on the recruit's ability to influence the program. I wouldn't describe a recruit whose academics and standarized scores are well below average as a lock, but if they are a program altering talent, they may very well get through. The less influence the player will have on the program, and the lower the academic profile, the less likely they will get in. The coaches do a good job of screening their recruits - they know who and how many they can get in. The specific sport also plays a part - not all coaches have the same influence.
Great point. I've drilled home to my DD to make it easy for the coach by having good grades and test scores. (I'm relatively new to the forum, so I neglect to realize I may be posting on different SA threads. I'll try to be more diligent. )
 

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Our DD was recruited at USCGA '24 as a swimmer. The coach was very clear, if she submitted her application by X date, they would offer her an LOA. She met all the other requirements of course, but he was super clear - we will give you an LOA if you submit. Ultimately, she went to USAFA as a non-recruited athlete, but has been on their swim team as a walk-on since she got there.
 

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I’d not correct a thing. Well stated

Where we might differ is how to define “some priority” for appointment. I’d consider it almost a virtual lock.

The offer at a D1 service academy from a SA coach is absolutely golden for the recruit except for things like jail, dui s, something showing up on a physical that can’t be waved (lots and lots can be and often are waved for a recruit )

It’s not going to be grades or SATs keeping the recruit out like it would be for a non recruit with similar lower grades and test scores . Not with prep school as a back up.
what about helping with a nomination if one is not secured on own?
 

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what about helping with a nomination if one is not secured on own?
I am reaching way back but have first hand knowledge about this.

I was recruited to play soccer at West Point back in the late 90's and the academy and coach played a huge role in securing an appointment/nomination from my congressman. I personally never met him prior to receiving a nomination.
 

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what about helping with a nomination if one is not secured on own?
Correct- the athletic dept. will help with that once the admissions board has given the thumbs up to your candidacy. My DS experienced this. He mentioned he was a recruited athlete in the interviews with the congressional/senatorial panels, they rolled their eyes and then asked the "what makes you so special?" questions and rejected him for a nomination. Once he submitted his application and cleared the admissions board, the athletic department will go get a nomination from whatever source they can find. In many cases, nominated applicants get rejected for one reason or another and the academy can get the rep/senator to nominate the accepted athlete in that slot.
 

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Correct- the athletic dept. will help with that once the admissions board has given the thumbs up to your candidacy. My DS experienced this. He mentioned he was a recruited athlete in the interviews with the congressional/senatorial panels, they rolled their eyes and then asked the "what makes you so special?" questions and rejected him for a nomination. Once he submitted his application and cleared the admissions board, the athletic department will go get a nomination from whatever source they can find. In many cases, nominated applicants get rejected for one reason or another and the academy can get the rep/senator to nominate the accepted athlete in that slot.
Just to confirm we are in the Coast Guard forum. No nominations required.
 

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Our DD was recruited at USCGA '24 as a swimmer. The coach was very clear, if she submitted her application by X date, they would offer her an LOA. She met all the other requirements of course, but he was super clear - we will give you an LOA if you submit. Ultimately, she went to USAFA as a non-recruited athlete, but has been on their swim team as a walk-on since she got there.
Can you give some insight as to how she was able to walk on to the swim team? Did you swim during BCT with the team? If appt is received my DD is interested, not fast enough to be recruited.
 
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