Release from ROTC to Accept USNA Appointment?

Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by Lockwoodarriving, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Lockwoodarriving

    Lockwoodarriving Member

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    DS asked me today if he is appointed to the USNA will he immediately be released from ROTC? Or will he only formally exit ROTC when he reports in to Annapolis for I-Day? Or at some time in-between? Has anyone on the forum ever been in this situation? Thanks in advance for your counsel.
     
  2. roguemom35

    roguemom35 Member

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    My DS is being recruited by high school recruiter for Nuclear School through enlisting, as Plan B to USNA. Would he be released from enlistment if he gets USNA appointment?
     
  3. EfusaurusRex

    EfusaurusRex USAFA '21

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    For ROTC, there's a form on the portal you can fill out to deny the scholarship offer even if it's already been accepted. Being an NROTC scholarship recipient with a USNA appointment, I haven't done it yet, but I do plan to.
     
  4. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    Yes if appointed they would be released from ROTC. He needs to work with his unit on this. If he is beyond his first year, contracted and receving any form of $ from ROTC, I believe a waiver is required. If its Freshman year, I do not believe a waiver is required. Hopefully NOLA can give more details on this.

    Yes, if they sign an enlistment contract and are appointed to USNA they will be released. Ensure to read the entire contract and ensure it stipulates that.
     
  5. roguemom35

    roguemom35 Member

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    Thank you NavyHoops! We met the recruiter, and he said there would be a release, but I wanted to make sure DS could go to USNA if appointed. I didn't want him to set up Plan B, and lock out Plan A.
     
  6. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ 10-Year Member

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    I am always interested in Plans B - whatever. Did your DS decide to rule out NROTC or one of the SMCs as not the way he wanted to go toward commissioned officer status? The road via enlisted service can be the long and rocky way around.

    I hope he looked at the NUPOC program - pays for college, head off to OCS and officer nuclear power training after graduation. Great way to go if he knows he wants subs, and USNA is not in the cards. See:
    https://www.navy.com/joining/college-options/nupoc
     
  7. roguemom35

    roguemom35 Member

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    DS is also looking at NROTC, already has one college acceptance(low on his college list) with a NROTC program, but the recruiter seems to be pushing this enlistment option. Sorry to be crass, but will he get a bonus for enlisting my DS? He wants DS to go downtown and go through the formal enlistment process, then back out if/when USNA appointment comes through. But I don't see the rush until we know for sure about USNA. At this point, my son is juggling AP classes, after-school job, sports, I am trying to help him consider all options. Thanks for the NUPOC option information, I will see if he has considered that. I am grateful for any advice.
     
  8. ktnatalk

    ktnatalk Sailor. Shipmate. Parent.

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    Don't think the recruiter gets any bonus, but probably some recognition if he meets or exceeds the required "quota" for him or the recruiting station. The recruiter is simply performing his duties, which is to bring in qualified new recruits. The recruiter could very well be a nuclear trained Sailor, or one maybe in "downtown", who knows how hard it is to find qualified candidates to become nukes.

    Agree with Hoops that make sure the backout scenario is clearly stated on the contract. But more importantly, what is your son's desire? Becoming an officer in the Navy? Via NUPOC? There isn't much reason for him to rush into things, but I believe he may get an enlistment bonus to become a nuke. I recommend sitting down and discuss all his options before jumping into any particular one. Best of luck!

    For @Lockwoodarriving, sorry but I could not provide any help with your question regarding DS' situation.
     
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  9. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    There is absolutely no point to rushing to enlist. Wait. If not appointed to USNA consider NROTC at the college he has been accepted to. If that's not desireable, then consider enlisting. Once you sign the enlistment paper he's stuck unless he receives an appointment to USNA. Never a rush to enlist... it will be there as an option later on. Recruiter is just trying to meet his quota.
     
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  10. 5Day

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    Another option is would be to go to college, college program NROTC and reapply to USNA. If he does well academically and in NROTC, his chances to get admitted to USNA would increase, and it would put DS on the route to be an officer. IMHO this would be a far better and probably easier path to USNA than enlistment. If he enlists the civilian college / NROTC route is not an option.

    The recruiter's job is to enlist sailors. It is not to explain potential paths to USNA or other routs to become a Navy officer. Research all the options. There is no reason to rush into enlistment. It could also be an option after a year of college, if DS determines that college is not his thing.
     
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  11. Norfolk63

    Norfolk63 BGO and MidDad 5-Year Member

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    5day is spot on. Wait until USNA appointment offers have all been made and wait list has expired before you think about enlisting. Focus on NROTC as a college programmer. And apply for lots of external scholarships. Don't give up the ship!
     
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    DrMom 5-Year Member

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    Your kid might wish to deal with an officer recruiter and limit his contact with the recruiter who is obviously trying to recruit a smart kid to enlist in the Navy. If your child has the NROTC scholarship and a college acceptance and he wants to be an officer--then this is the most direct route. Do not let him be talked into doing something that he does not want to do where he might find himself alone and unhappy a year from now.
     
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  13. roguemom35

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    Thank you all very much for confirming my hesitation is well founded. I should add the recruiter is a nice guy, I don't mean to impugn him, just being a mama bear. (or goat, I guess, as in Bill)
     
  14. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ 10-Year Member

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    Sea Mom.
     
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    AROTC-dad Moderator 5-Year Member

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    Most enlisted recruiters are indeed nice people. However they are primarily trained at recruiting enlisted personnel and are not typically experts at the many methods of commissioning officers.
    Agree with everyone, once you sign up as enlisted you are reducing your options!
     
  16. roguemom35

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    DS has come to his own decision to not go the enlistment route, but to go officer, 1) USNA, or 2) NROTC. Phew, relief, I didn't have to knock some sense into him, it's not as easy as it used to be. lol. Come on, USNA appointment, fingers crossed!!
     
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  17. USMA 1994

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    @roguemom35 The route of a year of college and re-applying is still a very viable option. We thought we were done a year ago as DD was highly ranked and just waiting for the offer of appointment. It never came for reasons outside of her control. She was awarded a late ROTC scholarship, went on to college, participated on a DIV I athletic team, made good grades and had her appointment show up today. Being in ROTC gives your DD another nomination source and a different group to compete it. The semester of college also gives you an academic bump in the way you are ranked.
     
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