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Thank you greatly appreciate the help
We had similar information but just told to have parent witness everything. Also in an email. Now need to validate for next steps for MSISR
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Thank you for sharing this with us! Are you saying you skipped the two essay writing prompts? (Writing "does not apply" for "Live Abroad" and "Adversity" prompts)
Hello everyone.
I received the same instruction and my Dad asked me to double check with the Scholarship Coordinator. He confirmed that parents can sign the forms. I went the ISR route and received notification last month that I got scholarship.
This is of course my experience and at that time had to rely on Scholarship Coordinator's instruction.
I received the same instruction and my Dad asked me to double check with the Scholarship Coordinator. He confirmed that parents can sign the forms. I went the ISR route and received notification last month that I got scholarship.
This is of course my experience and at that time had to rely on Scholarship Coordinator's instruction.
My son initially N/A'd the "live abroad" essay because it didn't apply to him. The single good piece of advice he was given from his coordinator was to go back at put SOMETHING. He ended up writing about living in SoFla with many different cultures and coming from a family that has different heritages. Honestly he had a ton of leadership, but not great test scores/class rank and received a 4 year NROTC on the 2nd board (1st board he was eligible).
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So, just to circle back, there has been some difference of opinions across coordinators in terms of who can sign off on drug debarment forms. During the COVID mitigation measures, recruiting coordinators were harder to access, as were teachers and others. There had been an allowance for parents to sign those forms. As I know it today, there are no school systems completely virtual, although there are varying degrees of masks requirements and vaccine requirements. Moving forward, applicants should follow the NETFOCUS checklists and the guidance of having the coordinator, teacher, or officer interviewer sign those forms. But, no one will have their package rejected based on parents signing the forms for this past season. The forms do not carry a score, so it isn't a factor. Given the OP discussion of achievements, that was the only thing that stood out to me, which caused me to flag that as the concern. For the OP, I have discussed your issue with the PNS at your lead school, and believe he has or will reach back out to discuss with you.
Thank you so much for following up on this! Really appreciate that info!
I see this topic was being addressed as I was formulating my comment but I thought it was still worth piggybacking as this discrepancy may be bigger than realized. My son was also told by his coordinator to have a parent sign the drug forms because of Covid and that I as a parent could also administer the fitness test - I didn’t ( the school running coach was able to get him on the regional indoor track and he administered it.) We also have this guidance in writing.
Also of note- our area was locked down more than most during Covid and again with the beginning of Omicron, schools were shutting down locally for staffing and transportation issues. So my son followed the instructions given to him and there was no reason to question it given this environment. My son had boy’s state cancelled on him in 2021 and many other high school experiences for months beyond what other regions were experiencing. In our school search, we visited Texas (very open) last summer and some parts of midwest and east (lots closed- hard to find a bathroom). While our small Catholic school had in person classes, our large local high school continued 1/2 day til mid October. I hope just hope that a board member from Texas is aware that the applicant from the NorthEast may have had activities shortchanged beyond what he/she may be observing regionally.
Also of note- our area was locked down more than most during Covid and again with the beginning of Omicron, schools were shutting down locally for staffing and transportation issues. So my son followed the instructions given to him and there was no reason to question it given this environment. My son had boy’s state cancelled on him in 2021 and many other high school experiences for months beyond what other regions were experiencing. In our school search, we visited Texas (very open) last summer and some parts of midwest and east (lots closed- hard to find a bathroom). While our small Catholic school had in person classes, our large local high school continued 1/2 day til mid October. I hope just hope that a board member from Texas is aware that the applicant from the NorthEast may have had activities shortchanged beyond what he/she may be observing regionally.
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Senior year I had a 3.97/4.7 GPA, 1440 SAT, Sea Cadet PO2, Spanish Honors Society Secretary, Vocational Classes (related to nursing), etc -- but was not selected for an NROTC Nurse Scholarship the first time around. I saw plenty of scholarship navy/nurse ops in nrotc with less leadership xp, lower GPAs and test scores so I knew it was something else that stopped me from getting a scholarship.
During my first year as a College Programmer I resubmitted and was selected for a Nurse Scholarship. I realize now it was me fixing up my essays that really helped out. Originally I was trying to come off as this over-patriotic poster child with the national anthem playing in the background. Find something unique about your background and why it drove you to the military. The second biggest hitter was my adversity essay. I didn't really have any adversity the first time around, but unfortunately when I submitted the application a year later I had something significant to put in the adversity section. But don't be like me. Don't force yourself to make up some story for adversity because they'll see through it and smell desperation. And if you do have something, tell it. Then after your sob story you must show how it made you stronger as not only a person but as a future officer when you're taking care of your sailors/marines.
During my first year as a College Programmer I resubmitted and was selected for a Nurse Scholarship. I realize now it was me fixing up my essays that really helped out. Originally I was trying to come off as this over-patriotic poster child with the national anthem playing in the background. Find something unique about your background and why it drove you to the military. The second biggest hitter was my adversity essay. I didn't really have any adversity the first time around, but unfortunately when I submitted the application a year later I had something significant to put in the adversity section. But don't be like me. Don't force yourself to make up some story for adversity because they'll see through it and smell desperation. And if you do have something, tell it. Then after your sob story you must show how it made you stronger as not only a person but as a future officer when you're taking care of your sailors/marines.
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I just looked on NETC instructions page. Sounds like there is some bad gouge out there that contradicts the official instructions:
Applicants must coordinate with their recruiter/coordinator in order to complete the following forms:
Applicants must coordinate with their recruiter/coordinator in order to complete the following forms:
- Statement of Understanding for Navy ROTC Application
- Debarment Statement for Navy ROTC Application
- Drug Statement for Navy ROTC Application
NOTE: THESE STATEMENTS MAY NOT BE WITNESSED BY A FAMILY MEMBER
Read the thread you will see that this was already discussed, addressed and then resolved by CAPT Meyers.
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Yep, just wanted to provide link to a primary source (NETC).
I had an application with similarities to yours and was awarded a 4-year scholarship. #1 school choice Yale (I also got deferred but didn't find out until after my board, I interviewed with Yale NROTC commanding officer), with the rest of my school choices being high cost/competitive schools; my parents signed all my statements (both my recruiter and the paperwork said it could be witnessed and signed by parents- they changed the rules because of COVID); submitted application in November and had a December board. Like the others said, I don't see your school choice or parents signing your statements being the problem. The main thing I see is that you didn't write anything for "live abroad" or "adversity" sections. I too have not lived abroad, so instead I wrote about my city's diversity, my families diversity, and how I frequently visit Mexico/other cultural experiences. I know it's not what the question asked, but my friend who won a NROTC scholarship last year said they're looking to hear about your experiences and that I should just put down something. For the adversity section, I didn't relate to any of their examples like parents divorcing, but again they're wanting to get to know you, so I wrote about challenges I've faced and tied them back to my extracurriculars/leadership capabilities. It sucks you didn't get the scholarship, but Westpoint will be lucky to have you!
So did you not get the scholarship or you did. I guess I am not understanding the dilemma.
I read his post to say that he got the scholarship but has not, at least yet, been accepted to Yale.
Correct, I find out if I get into Yale tomorrow!
Did you get into yale ?