ROTC process education needed.

Coach,
Have you searched collegeconfidential.com yet? They have an Ivy forum with chance me threads.

I must say I don't think you get what people are saying.
~ There are over 2K HS in this country. JMPO, but I think a 6.0 weight is the minority.

IE: Your HS has a 4.0 for uwcgpa, but wcgpa is on a 6.0 It appears to me you are mixing the two.
~ His wcgpa is 5.75 out o 6.0, but you don't know what his uwcgpa is out of 4.0 Let's assume 5,75= 96% on a scale of 6.0. Hence, the 5.75. However, on a 4,5 scale it would equate to 4.3 weighted. UWCPA it could be 3.83 out of a 4.0 scale.
 
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Like @Pima said, check out collegeconfidential. However, I will say, being an active member of their forums, that your chances at an Ivy is like everyone else's. A reach. That will be a common response. It's more of luck because so many people that apply are valedictorians, perfect test scores, varsity athletes, NHS, the list continues.

Regardless, your GPA will be recalculated. Good luck anyhow.
 
OP if you think your DS is of Ivy League quality, it would not hurt to list those schools as top units of choice when applying to NROTC/ROTC. It can serve as a hook for admission if your DS is granted a scholarship. Its not fool proof but worth a shot. Ivy Leagues are always looking to round out their classes with people with differences, including ROTC . They beg the question
" What can you bring to our school, how can you make it better? " I dont believe the process is random or made of luck. There is a system to why they admit whom they admit. Just no one knows the system.
 
For what it is worth, when my DD was making college visits several years ago when still in high school, she visited HYP and spoke with both admissions officers and cadre at each school. Everyone said that being in ROTC did not play a factor in admissions, though the PMS at Princeton did say that they notified the admissions office of those who had an ROTC scholarship and who were applying to the school.
As NavyHopeful2019 stated, their admissions is not a random process nor is it a matter of luck. They are not necessarily looking for well rounded students, but for a well rounded class, and if an applicant has exceptionally high academic stats and a track record indicating a potential to become a leader in the military, ROTC may give a slight edge. That being said, I would think that merely having an ROTC scholarship in and of itself would not be much of a factor, but if the applicant had a cohesive application demonstrating why they desired to be an officer and a history indicating they had been excelling in their preparation, I believe it could play a role in admissions.
 
ProudSwimDad said:
I'm not sure how recent this link is, but it lists top tier schools and describes what ROTC relationships exist at each: https://www.yaf.org/uploadedFiles/Webpages/Media_Center/ROTC Top universities_REVISED.pdf
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Agree with what everyone is saying here. Former Yale AFROTC member here; also with a 34 on the ACT. That kind of score doesn't hurt, but it doesn't help either at that point. There are plenty of people running around this campus with both higher and lower scores, as you can tell from the breakdown already given by Coach.

And yes, unfortunately, that link quoted is at least 3 years old, I don't know if it is wrong about any other schools but it not up to date about Yale.

bman - I don't think this common across the Ivies, but at least at Yale participation in ROTC is, as far I know, a fairly large portion in the application/acceptance consideration. At least it has been for the first few years of the program's reestablishment. The admissions board here looked almost as favorably on aspiring cadets as athletes. Again, though, I think that is more of a unique 'quirk' for Yale, i.e. don;t expect that at other Ivies. They aren't going to cut you a break. This might also no longer be a thing here - there is a chance that was just a temporary measure to jump start the program.
 
I know for a fact that at least the class above me got recommended by cadre to the admissions board, but like I said that may have been a temporary thing that is no longer occurring.
 
Sab245 I know for fact that Penn also looks favorably on cadets as I got my "likely letter" from Penn last Friday. When I called the admissions department and let them know that I was also interested in the NROTC as well Wharton. I was advised that they would annotate the file. That was last Monday. I also have applied to Yale Likely letter came early October also because I let admissions know that I would go NROTC and USNA and Texas AM, Maryland, Michigan.
 
Some more in the "for what it's worth" category, and this is only my personal observation from several years ago. When my DD finished her junior year of high school, she went to Summer Seminar at USNA and from there we visited HYP. Impressions were as follows, though I realize that some of the impressions were from the cadre and they rotate through every two years. She loved USNA, especially the physical challenge and the camaraderie. She could easily see herself attending there. The downside was the limited ability to study overseas while in college and to pursue courses in her desired field of study, which is in the humanities. Visiting Harvard, the department head invited her to his office to visit for an hour and then gave her his home phone number to call if she had any further questions; I was greatly impressed as she was simply another of the tens of thousands of hopefuls and he knew nothing of her other than she was planning on applying to Harvard. The cadre assigned a midshipman to meet with her; he said the commute back and forth to MIT for ROTC was a pain (though Harvard has since provided zip cars to make this easier) and overall my impression was that Harvard has recognized ROTC but there is still only limited support and that being in ROTC is not of much help in admission. At Yale, she had the same treatment from the department head, including a home phone number, along with a museum tour to handle 3,000 year old artifacts. Again, they had never heard of her, only that she was planning on applying the following year. She met with some of the NROTC midshipmen and they were super friendly. She met with a LT at the NROTC unit and that did not go well as my DD wanted to either go USNA or the college program route, and the LT was not at all desirous of having someone in the unit not on scholarship, or at least applying for one after they arrived. But as Sab245 stated above, Yale seemed to not only recognize ROTC, but to genuinely want to grow the unit as well and she would not have to commute for ROTC classes. Next was Princeton. Even though she had tried in advance to get an appointment with someone in her field of study, there was no one in the department available to meet. At the time there was no NROTC so she visited AROTC. The LT she spoke with was the friendliest of the bunch, said that going non-scholarship was no problem, and there were lots of summer opportunities for training. The school seemed to have a long history of supporting ROTC. The downside was that she preferred navy over army. Each school had it's pros and cons, but most of them were unique to her. All of this is to say that there is no one school ideal for everyone, it depends upon each student's particular situation.
 
Coach- Your kid's numbers are very good. My DS got into a top-ranked engineering school this year and a comment was made at the Parent's orientation program. The overwhelming majority of the kids accepted at the school were in the top 10% of their senior HS class. (Big shark in a little pool.) When they get to top-ranked college, filled with super smart kids, many of them struggle or freak out when they are no longer in the top 10%.

It's great you are looking out for Plan B and C. I doubt you will need them. I would be more concerned about how my kid will react when he gets to a super competitive setting with other top-ranked students.
 
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