ROTC Question

almondqqq

2026 Army ROTC
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Hi everyone! I have a question!

I remembered reading that if you didn't make it to the first board, they won't relook at your application and just put you on the OML. Does that mean that I can't improve and update your application for the second application?
 
That is correct. A human will not look at your application again - you are merely a number at this point, being compared to a bunch of other numbers. Highest numbers get the scholarship. The only areas that you can improve on at this point is on the standardized test (ACT/SAT) and the physical fitness test. You will only get a fractional increase in these areas as opposed to if you had submitted the higher score at the time of application submittal. With that being said, every little bit counts! Good luck!
 
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That is correct. A human will not look at your application again - you are merely a number at this point, being compared to a bunch of other numbers. Highest numbers get the scholarship. The only areas that you can improve on at this point is on the standardized test (ACT/SAT) and the physical fitness test. You will only get a fractional increase in these areas as opposed to if you had submitted the higher score at the time of application submittal. With that being said, every little bit counts! Good luck!
Thank you so much!
 
What about GPA? If there was a correction to GPA and an update to the application, can that impact the OML numbers or is it to late for that.
 
I do not think a change in GPA would impact your score, but I will double check that...
 
Thanks. I cant seem to find any information on that. My DS had an adjustment from 3.8 to 3.9. That is a big difference.
 
Thanks. I cant seem to find any information on that. My DS had an adjustment from 3.8 to 3.9. That is a big difference.
Congrats to your DS, moving a full point at this point of his high school career is impressive. However, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but in the context of the scoring of the AROTC application, it is not a big difference. It may have impacted his Board score had it been known at that time, but there is no stand alone scoring for GPA, unlike SAT or PFA.
 
maybe the student just did better the most recent semester since app was filed.
I would've thought that too but it says only 9-11 grade in put into for the Army ROTC GPA. Unless it is different for the Navy or Air Force, I don't think you can change it
 
Congrats to your DS, moving a full point at this point of his high school career is impressive. However, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but in the context of the scoring of the AROTC application, it is not a big difference. It may have impacted his Board score had it been known at that time, but there is no stand alone scoring for GPA, unlike SAT or PFA.
Thanks. That is the concern. That it impacted his board score. My advice to all is the same as you have heard on this forum many times. For most applicants the far better strategy is to wait for the second board.
 
Does this apply for Navy ROTC? I submitted my application for the October board and haven't been granted the scholarship. I heard there was a December board, does this mean that they will only look at my numbers not my activities and essays?
Also, is anybody aware when the results from this December board will come out for NROTC applicants?
 
Does this apply for Navy ROTC? I submitted my application for the October board and haven't been granted the scholarship. I heard there was a December board, does this mean that they will only look at my numbers not my activities and essays?
Also, is anybody aware when the results from this December board will come out for NROTC applicants?
No. Just AROTC. For NROTC, your application is reviewed each Board.
 
No. Just AROTC. For NROTC, your application is reviewed each Board.
I'm not so sure this is true for NROTC. i believe it is very similar to AROTC, but there are a lot more boards with NROTC. My understanding is that you are reviewed by the board one time and given a "score" and if your score is high enough to hit by the minimum set by the board you are awarded the scholarship. If it isn't high enough, it is in the stack with those already boarded who have not received it. As time goes on, they continue to review the new applications and score them and over time, if they are not having enough applicants who have the high score that the boards have set, then they start lowering the threshold and then those that have already been boarded that meet the new threshold score are awarded the scholarship. I don't believe the board reviews each of files all over again for each board once they are initially scored. @GWU PNS - Can you weigh in on this to clarify the process for NROTC boards?
 
The NROTC boards meet just about monthly depending on the number of applications received. When the board members review records, there is a "pre-score" number which is a combination of SAT/ACT scores, physical fitness scores, GPA, class ranking if available, and a few other items. That score sits in front of the board and there isn't much chance of it changing unless there is an obvious clerical error which would then cause that record to be rescored or rescreened.

The board members then review the other items, which are generically referred to as the "whole person" score. Applicant essays, activities, the officer interview, the submission by the Math teacher, Guidance counselor, and any other letters of recommendation, those all get considered and scored.

Those records are scored, the scores combined with the pre-score, and then the rankings are stacked. The members give a sanity check and make sure there were no issues or concerns not addressed earlier. There is a target score that if met or exceeded, moves an applicant to selected status. We don't know that target score before hand. The selectees get notified via email, and the other applicant scores remain in the system as the various boards continue. When all the boards are completed, any applicants not previously selected may be selected as the target score is adjusted. We know how many scholarships are available, so the target score is adjusted downward to get to that number.

Then there is always a bit of back and forth since some applicants also applied to USNA, USMA, or other ROTC programs. If they select something other than NROTC, we just drop down the list to the next applicant.

People usually want to know the specific weighting of scores, but I don't put that gouge out as I don't want to mislead someone into thinking you just game the system and work hard on a couple items. I will offer this......we assume that the people who know you best in terms of your academic potential and your ability to work in groups are your teachers and guidance counselors. Some of these letters are very well done, and others, to be candid, don't help the applicants at all. I wish we had members of high school counselors in this forum so I could personally exhort them to think carefully and make thoughtful, cogent statements that would help a board decide. Statements such as "Pretty good guy who tries hard" or "Don't really know him/her that well but I think they would do well in the military" are not the type of laudations that make me want to max out a score.

The other trend I see sometimes is a vague reference to an award......such as "I received the order of the dandelion".......
If it isn't an obvious award, please spell out what it is or means....is it a school award, a county, city, state, national level or what?

Good luck out there!
 
The NROTC boards meet just about monthly depending on the number of applications received. When the board members review records, there is a "pre-score" number which is a combination of SAT/ACT scores, physical fitness scores, GPA, class ranking if available, and a few other items. That score sits in front of the board and there isn't much chance of it changing unless there is an obvious clerical error which would then cause that record to be rescored or rescreened.

The board members then review the other items, which are generically referred to as the "whole person" score. Applicant essays, activities, the officer interview, the submission by the Math teacher, Guidance counselor, and any other letters of recommendation, those all get considered and scored.

Those records are scored, the scores combined with the pre-score, and then the rankings are stacked. The members give a sanity check and make sure there were no issues or concerns not addressed earlier. There is a target score that if met or exceeded, moves an applicant to selected status. We don't know that target score before hand. The selectees get notified via email, and the other applicant scores remain in the system as the various boards continue. When all the boards are completed, any applicants not previously selected may be selected as the target score is adjusted. We know how many scholarships are available, so the target score is adjusted downward to get to that number.

Then there is always a bit of back and forth since some applicants also applied to USNA, USMA, or other ROTC programs. If they select something other than NROTC, we just drop down the list to the next applicant.

People usually want to know the specific weighting of scores, but I don't put that gouge out as I don't want to mislead someone into thinking you just game the system and work hard on a couple items. I will offer this......we assume that the people who know you best in terms of your academic potential and your ability to work in groups are your teachers and guidance counselors. Some of these letters are very well done, and others, to be candid, don't help the applicants at all. I wish we had members of high school counselors in this forum so I could personally exhort them to think carefully and make thoughtful, cogent statements that would help a board decide. Statements such as "Pretty good guy who tries hard" or "Don't really know him/her that well but I think they would do well in the military" are not the type of laudations that make me want to max out a score.

The other trend I see sometimes is a vague reference to an award......such as "I received the order of the dandelion".......
If it isn't an obvious award, please spell out what it is or means....is it a school award, a county, city, state, national level or what?

Good luck out there!
This is great information. Thanks a lot for the reply! I wish this info was posted somewhere in the NROTC website or was more readily available. Or they should just promote this website! I wasn't really aware of the scoring process before I submitted, but I felt my application was strong as is so I'm hopeful for this December board.
 
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