SF86 Foreign Travel Section 20C

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  1. 3QConcerns

    3QConcerns Member

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    The directions for the Foreign Travel Section (20C, pg. 83) are a little ambiguous.

    By travel/trips do they simply mean a temporary thing where you return to the US?

    I grew up in Europe and have been to a ton of different countries and routinely went to neighboring countries for day trips. Do they actually expect me to somehow recall where I went, when, and list something like 50 entries?

    The form seems to imply that it's merely for short trips. In that case, do I list anything at all (since I made no "short trips" outside the U.S.)?
     
  2. AFrpaso

    AFrpaso USAFA Alumnus 5-Year Member

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    I've never been out of the country personally, so I didn't fill out that section. But I had friends who were military brats and had to fill out every single country they visited. It significantly slowed their investigation but that's about it. Everything checked out in the end.

    Maybe you could call the counseling office to get some clarification?
     
  3. jlo

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    yes they will want everything
     
  4. sep18

    sep18 New Member

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    I realize this is an old thread, but I feel that my question is relevant to it.

    I am in the process of completing the SF86 and am in a similar position as the OP. I have traveled in several different countries. However, there are a limited amount of entries on the SF86 and not enough for me to fully list my travel history.

    My question is, what is the process to list the other countries I have traveled to?

    I have emailed the contact listed on the portal, called my counselor, and the two numbers listed in the Appointee Booklet several times over the past few weeks with either no response to my email or no answer to the phone (left a detailed message with my question and contact information).

    Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks!!
     
  5. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Moderator

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    I suggest you attach an addendum to the form listing all the countries and reference the addendum on the SF86 form.
     
  6. Proudmama1103

    Proudmama1103 Member

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    We did a separate sheet and listed the countries and cities visited and attached.
     
  7. sep18

    sep18 New Member

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    Thank you both for your suggestions. If you don't mind me asking, was this something that you did based off of USAFA's guidance?
    I'm still holding out to hear something official back from Admissions (will be calling again tomorrow) however I appreciate your input.

    Thank you!!
     
  8. zachtx

    zachtx 5-Year Member

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    Admissions doesn't run the security clearance process; the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) does. One day in BCT, or early in the school year, you'll be taken to a computer lab where you will manually input all the information into a digital SF86 (which allows an unlimited number of entries to the questions like foreign travel & foreign contacts). Luckily, this information is all saved, so when you go back to resubmit for a higher level of clearance after you graduate, all that info will be automatically populated, and you just click through and update as necessary. I don't recall the exact time constraints, but they usually care less about things that occurred prior to the age of 18, and only want that as required to build a minimum ~5 year history (I think it was 5, but it could be a little longer). They aren't looking for the exact day and time you were in each place, but you should be able to supply the month and year, as well as the purpose of the visit.
     
  9. BackgdInvestigator

    BackgdInvestigator New Member

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    The electronic National Security Questionnaire for Security Clearance (SF 86), commonly known as eQIP allows infinite expansion for responses.

    - Read the question carefully for each section and answer the questions literally. The security process does not tolerate word games.

    - You are required to list all of your non-government foreign travel on your questionnaire for the last seven years (from the date you sign/submit your form). This includes personal trips while on government/military travel orders. This means you are required to report the sight seeing travel while on your summer cruise or similar academy adventures.

    -It sounds like you submitted documents to allow an admin person to enter your data into eQIP - be sure you read and verify everything on the form before you sign it. You are taking full responsibility for that legal document when you sign it.
     
  10. fencersmother

    fencersmother 10-Year Member Founding Member

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    READ THE QUESTION.
    ANSWER THE QUESTION.
    DON'T LIE, EXAGERATE, OR DEFLECT.

    There, does that help?
     
  11. BBBRRRTT

    BBBRRRTT Banned

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    I would say if it's on your passport then you might want to report it.