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I think that quote was originally attributed to a Roman centurion.Ha!
Sergeant Major Dan Daly might respond with "come on, you sons of *****es, do you want to live forever?"
Statistics on the COVID Vaccine in the Marines
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yes, that was Dan Daly in his previous life.
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This is the first official pullback. Looks like the Marines had a good gut feeling about this! And I was Navy!
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US will temporarily halt use of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine
Federal health agencies will temporarily stop using Johnson & Johnson’s one-dose vaccine after six women developed blood clots, including one who died, according to officials and a new re…
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That's Luis Fonseca. He was awarded the Navy Cross when he was an E-2. Last I heard he was attending Physician Assistant School. I cashed in a favor a few years ago and took my son on a tour of the USS Bataan in Norfolk. Luis was stationed on Bataan and was sweeping the main passageway in Medical. He's a nice and humble dude.
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Speaking of statistics, 0.000088% chance of developing a blood clot based upon the numbers given, 6 blood clots after 6.8 million doses.This is the first official pullback. Looks like the Marines had a good gut feeling about this! And I was Navy!
US will temporarily halt use of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine
Federal health agencies will temporarily stop using Johnson & Johnson’s one-dose vaccine after six women developed blood clots, including one who died, according to officials and a new re…
so about the same chance as a healthy adult of fighting age actually dying of covid?
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That's rude.
I was senior enlisted for headquarters and shipboard medical programs manager at Military Sealift Command when it was at the Washington Navy Yard. The chief of staff who was also CO of military personnel and I had to interact a lot. His previous assignment before MSC was as CO of the Bataan.
In toxicology there is a phenomenon called "the foreign body effect" in which there is a toxicological response to the introduction of a foreign body into an organism that has nothing to do with the agent's dose-response but is the body's way of saying, "this thing don't belong here and I am going to react to it". It is a significant issue in low-dose toxicological studies (I am dealing with a family of chemicals right now in my professional world with this issue). In double-blind tests, this is accounted for. But when an agent is introduced into the larger population, you will see this type of response - it typically has little or nothing to do with the agent itself but is a toxicological response nonetheless. Given the extremely low statistical occurrence, the blood-clotting issues related to J&J could well be that.
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It is not just the lethality of a disease amongst a specific demographic that warrants using a vaccine to combat an epidemic, but also the ability of a disease to spread especially when this is possible through respiratory droplets. While vaccinating those most at risk helps and they should be towards the front of the line, you have to also vaccinate those spreading the disease to clamp it down. If a vaccine is 90% effective against a disease with a high transmission rate but you only vaccinate 10% of the population you won't make much headway against the disease.
BTW, not related to the quote above, if a vaccine is 90% effective, it does NOT mean 10% of those vaccinated will contract the disease... unless the disease has a 100% infectious rate.
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Son is now deployed Sealift Command catching the rays on Gilligan's Island.
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President says it's a tough call on whether to make COVID vaccine mandatory.
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Lawmakers want to require military to get vaccine. Surely the Marines refusal chapped a few of them.
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‘A tough call’: Biden considering mandatory Covid vaccines for U.S. troops
The comments from the commander in chief come as the Pentagon has sounded the alarm about service members refusing the shots in large numbers.
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Lawmakers want to require military to get vaccine. Surely the Marines refusal chapped a few of them.
Lawmakers call on Biden to make COVID vaccines mandatory for the military
It remains unclear whether the White House or Pentagon is considering such a move.
www.navytimes.com