Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by America's Finest, Dec 4, 2009.
This was sent to me yesterday night.
Any Idea why Fox hasn't had these guys on yet? Would be something they would cover...
An entire replacement flight crew available in 5 minutes?
That (and a simple search of snopes.com) make me believe this story contains many embellishments if not complete fabrications.
I hope it's not true. I looked at your link and it only speculates and says it is unproved so I'm confused as to how that made you believe its false.
As far as the replacement crew in five minutes, that does seem very unlikely...I can only speculate but I wouldn't completely dismiss it based on only one thing which could possibly had happened. Or maybe the amount of time was an estimate, I doubt the person giving his account clocked the exact time.
Agree there are lots of questions. However, in Atlanta, there are plenty of crews available (main hub) and I'm pretty sure the crew probably made their intent known well before the people were allowed back on the plane. Also likely, with the delay, the crew may have already been maxed out on their hours for the day and could not fly legally at that point, or simply the switch of crew made future connections of that plane work correcly with flying hours rules.
That is why I asked about Fox. If there are any legs to such a story, they will generally give as much air time to this as they can.
205's flight delay definitely makes the story seem unbelievable...
however, I would not particularly discredit completely a political cover-up.
If anyone remembers details of the Fort Hood incident (RIP), the culprit was seen in 'full attire' doing strange prayers in a conveniance store, and supposedly had shouts of 'Allah-Akbar', or something of the sort. In which President Obama responded, something of 'lets not jump to any conclusions'.
That, in short, seems a tad off to me for him to protect the name of Islamic extremism, or for some reason try to convince the public that it was not an act of Islamic extremism gone militant... when it is almost completely obvious that it was.
Take it as you want, I am not accusing Obama of being a terrorist, obviously, just merely that "political correctness" is replacing logic and truth...
OK, let's get this straight...a muslin, disguised as an Army major kills 13 soldiers and seriously wounds dozens more, and according to Obama, we're not supposed to "jump to any conclusions." Yet police in Cambridge, Mass follow procedures while responding to a late-night break-in are accused of "acting stupidly."
Not quite, he WAS a Major, not disguised as one. And I think the "not jump to any conclusions" thing was addressing the fact that he is a Muslim, and not jump to the conclusion that it was some kind of planned terrorist attack. From what I understand, he just cracked because he was extremely upset when he found out he was going to be deployed to Iraq.
just my two cents
I have no personal knowledge other than news reports, but it didn't seem like he cracked.
I have some law experience and this crime seems premeditated. He was giving away possessions visiting "pagan" sites. That usually happens when a Muslim is preparing for jihad. He wasn't at the center, snapped when he saw injured soldiers coming back and pull out his gun and start shooting. It was planned. At least by him/
While I don't think political correctness should cost lives, I think that we do need to realize that all Muslims do not follow the same interpretations of the Koran. For example there are some "Christians" that do things I consider heinous. However, I have no problem identifying terrorist's faith as part of a motivating factor when committing this acts.
I realize he was a major, but by all accounts, he had no business being in the US Army. Attending the same mosque as the 9/11 terrorists, corresponding with al qaeda operatives in the Middle East, and preaching jihad to soldiers in need of therapy leads me to believe that he didn't just "snap." It's interesting that the "state-run" media has no problem calling a kook who randomly kills several people at a 7/11 a "terrorist", yet due to political correctness run amuck, cannot call this guy the terrorist that he is.
If you do not agree with the US military, frankly, DON'T JOIN IT! It was his personal choice to enlist in the army, and obviously that would mean possible deployment. There's plenty of people getting deployed-- not all of them go on a massive killing spree of their own people.
Not to mention he had ongoing record of being a pretty radical follower of Islam. Supposedly others that worked with him noticed that. It's just sad that America allowed this to happen. People obviously unfit for positions should be removed immediately. It's another case as we saw, but we didn't stop.
Of course none of us are privy to the actual facts of the case but the above post represents my thoughts too. Yes it's only from news reports but it was clearly premeditated and he had ties to radical Muslims. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's usually a duck IMVHO.
Just my theory the terrorist in question had been successfully recruited by al-qaeda some time ago. His primary mission was to disrupt the military from within while remaining under the radar. political correctness allowed him to accomplish this mission with little difficulty. A deployment into a hot zone would make it more difficult for the major to remain undetected, PC don't work in Battle. I think his handlers being concerned with being comprised decided that the major should go and collect his 70 virgins and kill as many infidels as he could. The major flaw in the plan was the major did not die, yet.
I believe this terrorist should be interrogated Jack Bauer style for info on contacts, methods of communications and any other info he may poses then executed.
I should write for TV
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