Triple Qualed with Nom

tommyboy44

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Hi, I was told yesterday by my BGO that I am triple qualed (came up in convorsation) and I have a nom from my local MoC. I am not writing this as one of those "will I get an appt" threads, but how many triple q'd with nom candidates are there each year? If anyone has the data.
 
If you look at the 2020 profile it provides there were 1355 offers of appointment last year. There were 6772 nominations total. Also this number gets slight skewed as Presidential will have 700-800 candidates qualify for it, but only 100 can be charged there. JRTOC/ROTC can be unlimited in the noms but only 20 appointments. Also not all those who get a Nom are 3Q. Now there are plenty of double or even triple noms in that 6772. USNA does not release in their class profile how many are 3Q. I believe USNABGO08 did a break down a few years ago that gave the full stats. USMA does release this number and it is usually around 2300-2500 depending on the year.

On an old thread someone posted for Class 2012 (I didn't verify these or the source, but seems about right):

USNA Class of 2012
3,838 Nominations
2,196 Triple qualified w/ nomination (1,642 unqualified nominees)
1,537 Appointments awarded
1,261 Sworn in

Sorry I can't give you exact numbers, but this should put you in the ball park. Hopefully one of the BGOs who has access to stats from admissions can post them. Good luck.
 
So, the appointment rate is 69.9%. And they SA's are hard to get into.

Just kidding :)
 
Yeah the nomination numbers in the 2012 numbers vs. those in the USNA class profile differ greatly. I think with MOCs alone they could have around ~6000 noms. When you throw in all the others that would make that number more sensible. The SAs like to publish a large number (usually in the 15,000+), but not all those complete applications obviously. The true numbers are those who complete an application, those who complete and are 3Q and those 3Q with nom. Those are really the key numbers in my mind. I believe if I remember correctly the number for USNA was in the ~40% range (ish), but don't quote me on it. I believe USAFA and USMA were higher, but not drastically. This is all from my old memory, I prefer to quote numbers from its data source. Hopefully 08 or another BGO will have some better numbers.
 
NavyHoops said:
Yeah the nomination numbers in the 2012 numbers vs. those in the USNA class profile differ greatly. I think with MOCs alone they could have around ~6000 noms. When you throw in all the others that would make that number more sensible. The SAs like to publish a large number (usually in the 15,000+), but not all those complete applications obviously. The true numbers are those who complete an application, those who complete and are 3Q and those 3Q with nom. Those are really the key numbers in my mind. I believe if I remember correctly the number for USNA was in the ~40% range (ish), but don't quote me on it. I believe USAFA and USMA were higher, but not drastically. This is all from my old memory, I prefer to quote numbers from its data source. Hopefully 08 or another BGO will have some better numbers.
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Thank you.
 
beth4kids said:
My DD's BGO said that about 75% of those who get nominations do not get an appointment. Not sure where she got that stat but that is what we were told.
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Statistically it works out to about the number quoted above of 75%: 1,537 appointments awarded/6,772 nominations total = 23%. Yes, I know I am using numbers from different years, but this is all hypothetical and imaginary numbers, right?:confused:
 
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Rather than total nominations as the denominator, I think using nominations w/ triple qualified is probably more practical and/or telling.
 
joekuhl said:
Rather than total nominations as the denominator, I think using nominations w/ triple qualified is probably more practical and/or telling.
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I was just trying to come up with the approximate 75% number that "beth4kids" had in her post.
 
NavyHoops said:
If you look at the 2020 profile it provides there were 1355 offers of appointment last year. There were 6772 nominations total. Also this number gets slight skewed as Presidential will have 700-800 candidates qualify for it, but only 100 can be charged there. JRTOC/ROTC can be unlimited in the noms but only 20 appointments. Also not all those who get a Nom are 3Q. Now there are plenty of double or even triple noms in that 6772. USNA does not release in their class profile how many are 3Q. I believe USNABGO08 did a break down a few years ago that gave the full stats. USMA does release this number and it is usually around 2300-2500 depending on the year.

On an old thread someone posted for Class 2012 (I didn't verify these or the source, but seems about right):

USNA Class of 2012
3,838 Nominations
2,196 Triple qualified w/ nomination (1,642 unqualified nominees)
1,537 Appointments awarded
1,261 Sworn in

Sorry I can't give you exact numbers, but this should put you in the ball park. Hopefully one of the BGOs who has access to stats from admissions can post them. Good luck.
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Reading that just made the waiting game a whoooooooooooleeeeee lot better:DI had never even thought of the fact that the 6k-ish nominations didn't take those things into account. Seeing that narrowed down number of those 3Q'd with a nom was probably the best thing I've seen academy related since I saw "complete pending review" appear on mine.
 
Your chances definitely improve markedly when you become Triple Q'd with a nomination.
 
Not to demote the competitiveness of candidates, but in more recent times there has been more fully qualified candidates than in earlier years.
It used to be that if one was fully qualified there was a much higher % of receiving an appointment.
In the last decade, the number of FQ candidates has increased by a factor of about 1.60.
 
I will be curious to see if the new USAF medical waivers policy will impact this number for future classes (that is if USAFA adopts them... I am guessing they do in future).
 
usnabgo08 said:
Not to demote the competitiveness of candidates, but in more recent times there has been more fully qualified candidates than in earlier years.
It used to be that if one was fully qualified there was a much higher % of receiving an appointment.
In the last decade, the number of FQ candidates has increased by a factor of about 1.60.
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I think by information sharing on SAF, together we help demystified a bit of the process, help candidates understand what to focus on and how to better handle remediation request by DoDMERB, we collectively help pushing the increase of qualified candidates.
 
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