Urine analysis on I-Day

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MooseMountain

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So for the urine analysis on I-day are they only screening for drugs (Nicotine, Alcohol, THC, ETC.), or are they also looking at things like protein levels. Because a couple of months prior I saw a post saying someone had to redo their DODMERB urinalysis because of excess protein in their urine. This is a really random question but I was just wondering if I need to reduce my protein levels or do other things in my diet. Thanks
 
They are only testing for narcotics. They don't test for nicotine or alcohol. DoDMERB urinalyses are more to detect health issues rather than illicit drug use. Excess protein in the urine can be indicative of kidney problems and other health issues. However, the likely cause of excess protein in the urine in the service academy applicant population is a strenuous workout prior to the urinalysis.
 
Usnavy2019 said:
They are only testing for narcotics. They don't test for nicotine or alcohol. DoDMERB urinalyses are more to detect health issues rather than illicit drug use. Excess protein in the urine can be indicative of kidney problems and other health issues. However, the likely cause of excess protein in the urine in the service academy applicant population is a strenuous workout prior to the urinalysis
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My son heard recently that they did drug test at the NROTC NSI. I would think that is a standard vs waiting until start of school. I am interested to hear if that is true.
 
rj$0921 said:
My son heard recently that they did drug test at the NROTC NSI. I would think that is a standard vs waiting until start of school. I am interested to hear if that is true.
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I don't understand why any cares when they drug test -- Navy can and does do drug testing whenever they want. Unless things have changed drastically, ZERO TOLERANCE is the word. Bottom line, don't do drugs and the testing is just an inconvenience. (And hope you don't get assigned as Urinalyis Coordinator as a collateral duty out in the Fleet !)
 
This ^^^^

When you work for certain portions of the Government, or as a contractor for them, it is common place. Don't do them, you won't pop a test (and subsequently lose your clearance).
 
IronmanDaremo said:
This ^^^^

When you work for certain portions of the Government, or as a contractor for them, it is common place. Don't do them, you won't pop a test (and subsequently lose your clearance).
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Also true for a number of regulated industries. When I worked for a train manufacturer, ALL employees, even those who worked in more remote areas like finance were required to take drug tests at hiring and then on a random basis. This was because they are in the Transportation manufacturing industry which is regulated just as the Transportation agencies themselves. It was also the case in the Aerospace Industry such as Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon, etc.
 
It is pretty standard practice for a sailor to get a urinalysis at their entrance source (Basic, OCS, USNA, etc.) and upon reporting to each subsequent command. You’ll also get random ones throughout your tenure in the command. Some get called more than others. USNA (can’t speak to ROTC) also usually tests the whole Brigade after winter, spring, and summer leave periods. So if one makes a bad decision over leave, their days as a mid are probably numbered.

A common gotcha is CBD. So many CBD products are advertised at place that servicemembers frequent like gyms, nutrition stores and malls/online shops. CBD is prohibited for servicemembers.

And for those worried about false positives, the testing methodology retests initial positives and assigns threshold concentrations that would only be found in actual ingestion. So all you everything bagel lovers are safe.
 
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Old Navy BGO said:
I don't understand why any cares when they drug test -- Navy can and does do drug testing whenever they want. Unless things have changed drastically, ZERO TOLERANCE is the word. Bottom line, don't do drugs and the testing is just an inconvenience. (And hope you don't get assigned as Urinalyis Coordinator as a collateral duty out in the Fleet !)
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I would also expect zero tolerance policy, simply surprised that it is not SOP to be done upon arrival at NSI.
 
DD stopped taking HEMP Protein powder ( Bob's Red Mill : 1 tea spoon per day) 2 months prior for in case.
 
rj$0921 said:
I would also expect zero tolerance policy, simply surprised that it is not SOP to be done upon arrival at NSI.
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NSI is for ROTC only. It was implemented a few years ago to standardize the indoctrination NROTC MIDN got. Indoc used to be done in-house (I.e. conducted by each specific Battalion).

I-Day isn’t the first day of the school year. It’s 7 weeks of training, a few days of GMTs, and then classes begin.
 
Going to the point of who and when a urinalysis is conducted…this should be the easiest test anyone takes anywhere…it’s not hard…don’t do drugs…therefore, the who and when don’t matter! Unfortunately, many Navy folks fail this test and are shown the door.
 
As we say on this site every year, if drugs (including MJ and CBD) are your thing, the military is NOT the place for you. You might beat the system for awhile, but eventually you’ll be caught.

If you don’t use drugs, you will NEVER sweat a urinalysis test.
 
What amazes me is how states are allowed to illegally make recreational use of marijuana “legal” in their state.
While I’m not a lawyer, I was always under the impression that a state can only create laws more restrictive than federal law, not less. My impression was confirmed accurate by a former state attorney general.
It just seems to be “acceptable “ and tolerated by the federal government to allow individual states to do this.
Wasn’t long ago that all states rolled over for the minimum drinking age of 21 federal mandate. If I recall, the feds threatened to take away bridge aid and other money if the state failed to comply. Curiously, there has been no such threat by the federal government to enforce the ban on recreational marijuana use.
It does blur the lines for some people, but our service members are repeatedly told marijuana and other non prescribed drug use is illegal and being caught using will have serious consequences. So everyone is forewarned and should be prepared for a random drug test at anytime.
Stay clean and worry not…..
 
shock-n-awe said:
What amazes me is how states are allowed to illegally make recreational use of marijuana “legal” in their state.
While I’m not a lawyer, I was always under the impression that a state can only create laws more restrictive than federal law, not less. My impression was confirmed accurate by a former state attorney general.
It just seems to be “acceptable “ and tolerated by the federal government to allow individual states to do this.
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You don't want to go down this road very far on here as it will devolve into political posturing. Consider how some states/cities
have declared themselves to be immigration "sanctuaries" and rigorously demand their law enforcement and other officials
to NOT report violators.
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The US Government seems to allow states some pretty wide latitude in a number of areas.
 
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