USMMA soccer program suspended amid federal probe

Discussion in 'Merchant Marine Academy - USMMA' started by Freda'sMom, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. Freda'sMom

    Freda'sMom 5-Year Member

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    I haven't heard anything through the grapevine yet, and the NewsDay article is even less informative.

     
  2. Jmoney457

    Jmoney457 Banned

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    One of the plebes on the team (who no longer attends the academy), made some serious harassment allegations against first classmen ('17) on the team. None of the first class soccer players are going to walk at graduation. Those are all the details I'm going to provide.
     
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    KPEngineer Eternal Father ... 5-Year Member

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    Curious if there was any kind of investigation or have they been prevented from participating in graduation based on the allegation alone.
     
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    2017 is a really small class, I think they're at around 160.
     
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  7. Freda'sMom

    Freda'sMom 5-Year Member

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    The court did issue rulings yesterday but are under seal. From pacer.gov:
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    - In camera conference held with the Court and counsel. Rulings made as stated on the record. This portion of the transcripts is ordered under seal. Transcripts of this portion can be made available to counsel of record and the Court ONLY. "
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    - This Court will retain jurisdiction while administrative
    procedures are completed by the Merchant Marine Academy."
     
  9. rjb

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    So far this case has been more about violation of due process than alleged actions.

    I might suggest you let the process run its course before handing down sentence.
     
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    Maplerock Proud to be an American 5-Year Member

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    Yours is quite a severe reaction. You must know more than the articles suggest. Yes, if true, some behaviors were disgusting. Worthy of expulsion/refusal of degree and hundreds of thousands of dollars repayment? Hopefully a very wise judge or jury will decide the case. Young people can act quite stupidly. Was it bad enough for the extreme measures you suggest? We will wait and see.
     
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    Freda'sMom 5-Year Member

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    Is that not what you think I meant when I typed the phrase "If proven true in court.."?

    Sexual assault, even if by a male upon another male, is a serious matter that deserves (again-IF PROVEN TRUE) a serious punishment.
     
  13. azmilmom

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    @KP_2020DAD , I've been waiting to hear some updates. Do I understand correctly that there have been rulings regarding the charges, but that no one knows the rulings? Has anyone heard whether there have been decisions made about mids allegedly involved?
     
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    According to pacer.gov (the government website for publishing and filing court records), rulings have been issued and are under seal (which means the public can't view them). The court has seemingly directed KP to take action but what action we don't know. As KP seemed to be waiting on DOT to finish an IG investigation we may have to wait for awhile to learn the outcome here. Sorry for lack of detail but very little was provided by the court.
     
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    Thanks, @KP_2020DAD . Was hoping to hear that the rulings meant that decisions were reached and the case closed.
     
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    I keep seeing the words sexual assault, but I have yet to see anything that would suggest there was even an alleged sexual assault. I've seen an allegation of urine being thrown on someone, but that's not sexual assault in my mind. Disgusting, yes...stupid, yes. Sexual assault, not quite.

    Maybe there are other allegations that haven't been reported or I missed.
     
  17. Freda'sMom

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    You haven't even seen an allegation of sexual abuse or anything that would suggest sexaual assault? Did you read the headline in the Newsday article? Did you read the first paragraph?

    There's your allegation, from the US Govt's lawyer/prosecutor. Whether you believe the allegation or not is irrelevant, but don't pretend the allegation of sexual abuse is not suggested. It's right there in black in white.
     
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    And then they go on to delineate what those acts supposedly were. None of which meet what I see as definitions of sexual assault. If there was something else alleged I'm sure they would have been happy to print it to sell more newspapers / web clicks.

    From my reading/interpretation they are trying to stretch the urine allegation into being a sexual assault. Maybe my reading comprehension is poor, but if they've printed some detailed allegations why wouldn't they print them all?
     
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    That was my understanding as well, that they were trying to say the urine allegation was a sexual assault. Obviously I could be wrong but that's how I took it too.


    There's your allegation, from the US Govt's lawyer/prosecutor. Whether you believe the allegation or not is irrelevant, but don't pretend the allegation of sexual abuse is not suggested. It's right there in black in white.[/QUOTE]

    And then they go on to delineate what those acts supposedly were. None of which meet what I see as definitions of sexual assault. If there was something else alleged I'm sure they would have been happy to print it to sell more newspapers / web clicks.

    From my reading/interpretation they are trying to stretch the urine allegation into being a sexual assault. Maybe my reading comprehension is poor, but if they've printed some detailed allegations why wouldn't they print them all?[/QUOTE]
     
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    If the urine was "applied directly" then it would be considered a sex crime.
    just sayin'