USNA Class of 2027 Waiting and Speculating

[IronmanDaremo]

Yes. If you received a TWE, then there are generally no other options they are considering for you.

 

[NavyHopefulMom2027]

Wow, I really thought that earlier this week was the big round of TWE and WL....I thought today would be all good news.

 

[bubblehead#22]

4/14/2023 AM Turn Down

For posterity.
January 4, 2022 submitted NASS app.
Attended NASS
Fall 2023 CVW invited/attended
Recruited athlete: encouraging feedback but no LOA
8/27/2022 CPR, medically/physically qualified
2022 Nomination
Academic stats exceed those listed for class of 2025 (2026 stats have never been shared by admissions)

I‘ve always been fully in the camp that what happens will happen for a reason, and I’ve supported her pursuing her dream. But, when I found out a kid on her slate received an appointment despite having taken standardized testing with accommodations (not enough time to retake) and citing he’d be waivered for ADHD, I was frustrated. I assumed the process would at least be fair for all. But, I made peace with it, as I said everything happens for a reason.

DD is disappointed this morning, mostly because admissions took so long to say it and then not so much as a waitlist, and it made it difficult for her to embrace alternate plan. She’ll be following in Mom’s footsteps and going Ivy in the fall. I wish the appointees, waitlisters, candidates and moms and dads the very best

Going Ivy not a bad plan B! I understand your frustration. Where is she going and will she be doing NROTC?

 

[butterfly]

4/14/2023 AM Turn Down

For posterity.
January 4, 2022 submitted NASS app.
Attended NASS
Fall 2023 CVW invited/attended
Recruited athlete: encouraging feedback but no LOA
8/27/2022 CPR, medically/physically qualified
2022 Nomination
Academic stats exceed those listed for class of 2025 (2026 stats have never been shared by admissions)

I‘ve always been fully in the camp that what happens will happen for a reason, and I’ve supported her pursuing her dream. But, when I found out a kid on her slate received an appointment despite having taken standardized testing with accommodations (not enough time to retake) and citing he’d be waivered for ADHD, I was frustrated. As they say, all is fair in love and war, I suppose. I assumed the process would at least be fair for all. But, I made peace with it, as I said everything happens for a reason.

DD is disappointed this morning, mostly because admissions took so long to say it and then not so much as a waitlist, and it made it difficult for her to embrace alternate plan. She’ll be following in Mom’s footsteps and going Ivy in the fall. I wish the appointees, waitlisters, candidates and moms and dads the very best

Sorry for your DD. Same here to my DS.

 

[IronmanDaremo]

It sounds like this year was an incredibly competitive candidate pool. (Not that it isn't every year, but this year seems more so).

 

[Banshee Mom]

I have been following this thread and feel for those who received the Turn Down. No one knows how USNA admissions decides who will be admitted . The candidates this year sounded incredibly accomplished and outstanding . They are all to be applauded . I sincerely wish you all the best in your future endeavors .

 

[USN/USCGMamaBear]

DS just got placed on NAPS wait list.

There is a NAPS waitlist list on the Prep School forums if you want to add your name to it.

 

[Wildcat_30]

My DS has a LOA and his portal shows everything complete except "Medical Examination." He has completed his medical evaluation and has a DQ from DoDMERB. His DoDMERB portal shows that he is under waiver review, but USNA hasn't requested any AMI or otherwise reached out. We are concerned that maybe there is a glitch and USNA thinks he hasn't completed his medical evaluation, so they aren't moving forward with a waiver. Is there any way to confirm that the X on "Medical Examination" does not mean that USNA is waiting for something from our end?

My DS was in the same situation with an X on medical and under waiver review for a DQ. He does not have an LOA. He emailed admissions medical to ask if they could tell him if he was going to be submitted for a waiver. They responded and told him he was in queue for a waiver but could not tell him how long the process would take. That was about a week and a half ago. Last Friday he got a request for AMI... he has the appointment they required scheduled for today. He was CPR up until this morning when he was put on USNA waitlist.

 

[Lkt]

Hey longtime lurker here. Just got the call from my congresswoman today that I have been appointed. I got the TWE last year, did NROTC and enrolled in plebe courses (calc, chem, etc) and it all paid off. I wish the best of luck to everyone still waiting, and know that a TWE does not mean the end of your academy ambitions.

Congratulations on your appointment and on your commitment! This reply is please calling all help and advice and inspiration. How did you make this happen please? My son please needs advice on real tangible steps he can take starting now and through the year so that he does not get a turned down next year. He is determined to go to the USNA and be a navel officer for his whole career. A bit about him so you get the picture. He is a wrestler and in fantastic shape and almost maxed out the whole CFA, minus the run (7min) and the b-ball toss. Both of those he can practice and dominate at (I think under 6min mile and close to making b-ball throw). He has a 4.12 taking the absolute hardest classes in an extremely competitive Loudoun County (northern VA) high school (took 4 APs this year and all As). He coaches wrestling, tutors SAT, tutors math, and wrestles year round travel and captained both his HS and his travel team. He got 1390 SAT (took it 3 times, wants to get his math over 700 so will study hard and take it until he gets a higher score), 31 ACT (he’ll take this again and get math over 30). He wrote his BGO for some advice but hasn’t heard back; BGO believed he’d get appointed too. I heard USNA admissions will go through your app with you to direct you for next year. What other things can he do please? The hardest thing is to keep moving forward everyday positively. He still hasn’t heard in his NROTC (got a 98 ASVAB so only 1 pt for improvement). He only got into RPI for Nuclear Engineering but we can’t afford to send him unless he gets his NROTC. There are quite a few NROTC schools in Va, we have to find one with late or rolling admissions and try and get him there (any suggestions). Please any advice or things we aren’t looking at. He was too linear and we were too linear and we naively believed all the hype when he got that coveted Senatoral nomination (and given what everyone said). We were wrong and are now trying like heck to cast a wide net and get him back to where he wants to be, USNA. Thank you in advance for anyone’s help and advice and guidance! We please need small and big and detailed suggestions; literally any words of wisdom will help. Thanks again and good luck to all still chugging along!! I hope this might help some others here that got caught in the 12th purge love y’all and this forum!

 

[SAC81]

Congratulations on your appointment and on your commitment! This reply is please calling all help and advice and inspiration. How did you make this happen please? My son please needs advice on real tangible steps he can take starting now and through the year so that he does not get a turned down next year. He is determined to go to the USNA and be a navel officer for his whole career. A bit about him so you get the picture. He is a wrestler and in fantastic shape and almost maxed out the whole CFA, minus the run (7min) and the b-ball toss. Both of those he can practice and dominate at (I think under 6min mile and close to making b-ball throw). He has a 4.12 taking the absolute hardest classes in an extremely competitive Loudoun County (northern VA) high school (took 4 APs this year and all As). He coaches wrestling, tutors SAT, tutors math, and wrestles year round travel and captained both his HS and his travel team. He got 1390 SAT (took it 3 times, wants to get his math over 700 so will study hard and take it until he gets a higher score), 31 ACT (he’ll take this again and get math over 30). He wrote his BGO for some advice but hasn’t heard back; BGO believed he’d get appointed too. I heard USNA admissions will go through your app with you to direct you for next year. What other things can he do please? The hardest thing is to keep moving forward everyday positively. He still hasn’t heard in his NROTC (got a 98 ASVAB so only 1 pt for improvement). He only got into RPI for Nuclear Engineering but we can’t afford to send him unless he gets his NROTC. There are quite a few NROTC schools in Va, we have to find one with late or rolling admissions and try and get him there (any suggestions). Please any advice or things we aren’t looking at. He was too linear and we were too linear and we naively believed all the hype when he got that coveted Senatoral nomination (and given what everyone said). We were wrong and are now trying like heck to cast a wide net and get him back to where he wants to be, USNA. Thank you in advance for anyone’s help and advice and guidance! We please need small and big and detailed suggestions; literally any words of wisdom will help. Thanks again and good luck to all still chugging along!! I hope this might help some others here that got caught in the 12th purge love y’all and this forum!

My only input is to be absolutely committed that your DS is the point of the spear... don't ever contact anyone on his behalf (other than this forum) when needing q's answered, etc. Remember as a parent we are our children's support (good and bad times), and not the ones pursuing these goals and more importantly, living them. Good luck...sounds like he's got a great resume started!

 

[A1Janitor]

Go to any college - community colleges are excellent - and take a full load that mirrors USNA. Excel. Work with teachers so you can get letters of rec. Join intramural or club sports while taking the full course load.

 

[MMM3]

Turn down for DD came this a.m. I cannot help but believe there are bright futures for all these amazing kids! Looking forward to the future!

 

[justdoit19]

A good pinned thread, full of great discussion and advice, for those receiving a TWE.

It happens every year, that this point of the application process arrives. Always makes me sad. For y’all, and my own candidates.

Be sad for a bit, pull up the bootstraps, and move forward. Here is info for applying again….

Reapplying to USNA (after a turndown)

Below is information for those reapplying to USNA after being turned down. It also may be helpful to first time candidates who are currently in college. PLEASE NOTE: While every attempt has been made to make this sticky accurate, the information below has not been reviewed, approved or...

www.serviceacademyforums.com

 

[Gnarlygoat27]

It sounds like this year was an incredibly competitive candidate pool. (Not that it isn't every year, but this year seems more so).

Thats what's keeping me going. DS also got the turned down update in The Big Purge on Wednesday. I'm very much in the camp of hurt and frustrated parents. I know everything happens for a reason and we've had our fair share of highs and lows in the Navy. I've seen DH go through unexplainable rejection and rise to early promotion. I've seen people be promoted and then fired. It doesn't always make sense. My son goes to the #1 public high school in the country, the #6 stem school. He's a varsity athlete, a captain, a club officer, NHS, grades, scores, 7 APs, some with scores of 5, tutors kids, volunteers at the National Museum of the Marine Corps twice a month, and an Eagle Scout to boot. His BGO just so happens to be a dad in his troop and knows him. He had two nominations. I don't get it. We well understand the process, what they want. If one more uninformed person tells my family, "he'll get in, he's a legacy" I may very well punch them in the face. We have sacrificed a lot as a family, living apart for 3 of his 4 HS years to keep him in this school. It's not for nothing, he enjoyed it, he will be successful in wherever he lands, but it still stings.

Last year on I-day when he was in a severe car accident (while volunteering) and suffered a broken vetebrae, we all knew this process was very much in jeopardy but no one was more determined and called to persevere than my then 16yo. He did everything expected of him to heal, rehab, and meet deadlines, all without anger. We gave him every opportunity to say he didn't want to do this anymore. His retired Navy neurosurgeon cleared him of all restrictions and wrote a very convincing letter to the board. Unfortunately DoDMERB coded his injury as something it isn't exactly and for whatever reason USNA never reached the waiver process to explain. He's reached out to admissions to try to find out if it was his record or that big ugly DQ this late in the process they didn't want to mess with but hasn't heard back. It would be nice to have that closure but also since this will continue to affect all commissioning sources, it needs to be cleared up.

I know all the things about commissioning source doesn't matter, and all the other opportunities out there, this is entirely about the college experience for him. It's where he talked about going since he was little and slept with a stuffed Bill, and where he confidently declared he would pursue after a Tiger Cruise at 14. It's where he came home talking non-stop for the first time nearly ever after NASS and I finally felt confident it wasn't something he'd be doing for us. It's where I felt safe leaving him while I move overseas this summer because bad influences are minimized. It's where I met my husband, where my parents met, where my sister met her husband, where all three of my kids were baptized, where our good friend teaches plebes, where my aunt works, where my son asked to have his birthday parties be Navy tailgaters. It's familiar and home. These are all of MY emotions and MY process.

I'm beyond happy to say my son is very excited to join the Corps of Cadets at Virginia Tech. He's not dwelling on it (or he's a very good actor). Unfortunately we're also still waiting on the final NROTC decisions and he is undecided for now if he wants to reapply or just fully embrace life in Blacksburg. That will be entirely his decision but the DQ does need to be resolved. I just want to say I sympathize with all of you in the same boat. Yes all of these kids are extraordinary but it doesn't change the shock. It doesn't change that the process had to drag out this long only to be met with sadness. There is no secret sauce but those who were fortunate to earn an appointment, I really hope you have warm fuzzy feelings by the time you leave the Yard and are filled with your own fond memories... in the meantime embrace the suck, you got here, you can do it!

 

[justdoit19]

Congratulations on your appointment and on your commitment! This reply is please calling all help and advice and inspiration. How did you make this happen please? My son please needs advice on real tangible steps he can take starting now and through the year so that he does not get a turned down next year. He is determined to go to the USNA and be a navel officer for his whole career. A bit about him so you get the picture. He is a wrestler and in fantastic shape and almost maxed out the whole CFA, minus the run (7min) and the b-ball toss. Both of those he can practice and dominate at (I think under 6min mile and close to making b-ball throw). He has a 4.12 taking the absolute hardest classes in an extremely competitive Loudoun County (northern VA) high school (took 4 APs this year and all As). He coaches wrestling, tutors SAT, tutors math, and wrestles year round travel and captained both his HS and his travel team. He got 1390 SAT (took it 3 times, wants to get his math over 700 so will study hard and take it until he gets a higher score), 31 ACT (he’ll take this again and get math over 30). He wrote his BGO for some advice but hasn’t heard back; BGO believed he’d get appointed too. I heard USNA admissions will go through your app with you to direct you for next year. What other things can he do please? The hardest thing is to keep moving forward everyday positively. He still hasn’t heard in his NROTC (got a 98 ASVAB so only 1 pt for improvement). He only got into RPI for Nuclear Engineering but we can’t afford to send him unless he gets his NROTC. There are quite a few NROTC schools in Va, we have to find one with late or rolling admissions and try and get him there (any suggestions). Please any advice or things we aren’t looking at. He was too linear and we were too linear and we naively believed all the hype when he got that coveted Senatoral nomination (and given what everyone said). We were wrong and are now trying like heck to cast a wide net and get him back to where he wants to be, USNA. Thank you in advance for anyone’s help and advice and guidance! We please need small and big and detailed suggestions; literally any words of wisdom will help. Thanks again and good luck to all still chugging along!! I hope this might help some others here that got caught in the 12th purge love y’all and this forum!

Here you go

Reapplying to USNA (after a turndown)

Below is information for those reapplying to USNA after being turned down. It also may be helpful to first time candidates who are currently in college. PLEASE NOTE: While every attempt has been made to make this sticky accurate, the information below has not been reviewed, approved or...

www.serviceacademyforums.com

 

[CHSIslander2023]

My DD got the dreaded Turned Down letter this AM. I have learned a lot from this forum. At the start I thought my DD had a great shot with amazing grades (3.9/4.4 GPA), 12 AP classes, 3 varsity sports, JROTC, part time job as a surf instructor, volunteers as beach junior lifeguard aide, dad's academy alum, no medical issues, and crushed the CFA. She even had a 6:40 mile run on the first try. As I kept learning more about others on this forum, I started doubting my DD's chances. Rejection is tough, but thankfully like many others, she has a solid plan B. Good luck to all still waiting. This is the end of the road for us to USNA.

 

[SnootyHen]

Thats what's keeping me going. DS also got the turned down update in The Big Purge on Wednesday. I'm very much in the camp of hurt and frustrated parents. I know everything happens for a reason and we've had our fair share of highs and lows in the Navy. I've seen DH go through unexplainable rejection and rise to early promotion. I've seen people be promoted and then fired. It doesn't always make sense. My son goes to the #1 public high school in the country, the #6 stem school. He's a varsity athlete, a captain, a club officer, NHS, grades, scores, 7 APs, some with scores of 5, tutors kids, volunteers at the National Museum of the Marine Corps twice a month, and an Eagle Scout to boot. His BGO just so happens to be a dad in his troop and knows him. He had two nominations. I don't get it. We well understand the process, what they want. If one more uninformed person tells my family, "he'll get in, he's a legacy" I may very well punch them in the face. We have sacrificed a lot as a family, living apart for 3 of his 4 HS years to keep him in this school. It's not for nothing, he enjoyed it, he will be successful in wherever he lands, but it still stings.

Last year on I-day when he was in a severe car accident (while volunteering) and suffered a broken vetebrae, we all knew this process was very much in jeopardy but no one was more determined and called to persevere than my then 16yo. He did everything expected of him to heal, rehab, and meet deadlines, all without anger. We gave him every opportunity to say he didn't want to do this anymore. His retired Navy neurosurgeon cleared him of all restrictions and wrote a very convincing letter to the board. Unfortunately DoDMERB coded his injury as something it isn't exactly and for whatever reason USNA never reached the waiver process to explain. He's reached out to admissions to try to find out if it was his record or that big ugly DQ this late in the process they didn't want to mess with but hasn't heard back. It would be nice to have that closure but also since this will continue to affect all commissioning sources, it needs to be cleared up.

I know all the things about commissioning source doesn't matter, and all the other opportunities out there, this is entirely about the college experience for him. It's where he talked about going since he was little and slept with a stuffed Bill, and where he confidently declared he would pursue after a Tiger Cruise at 14. It's where he came home talking non-stop for the first time nearly ever after NASS and I finally felt confident it wasn't something he'd be doing for us. It's where I felt safe leaving him while I move overseas this summer because bad influences are minimized. It's where I met my husband, where my parents met, where my sister met her husband, where all three of my kids were baptized, where our good friend teaches plebes, where my aunt works, where my son asked to have his birthday parties be Navy tailgaters. It's familiar and home. These are all of MY emotions and MY process. I'm beyond happy to say my son is very excited to join the Corps of Cadets at Virginia Tech. He's not dwelling on it (or he's a very good actor). Unfortunately we're also still waiting on the final NROTC decisions and he is undecided for now if he wants to reapply or just fully embrace life in Blacksburg. That will be entirely his decision but the DQ does need to be resolved. I just want to say I sympathize with all of you in the same boat. Yes all of these kids are extraordinary but it doesn't change the shock. It doesn't change that the process had to drag out this long only to be met with sadness. There is no secret sauce but those who were fortunate to earn an appointment, I really hope you have warm fuzzy feelings by the time you leave the Yard and are filled with your own fond memories... in the meantime embrace the suck, you got here, you can do it!

I wish there was a reaction somewhere in between crying, loving and agreeing because your post brings out all the feels. I can't begin to know what the thought process is in admissions and why some of our overwhelmingly qualified kids are not getting offers. As I continue to wait, all I can think is that there must be some seriously incredible kids making up this class. I know your son will do amazing things wherever he goes and hope that after a few days of mourning this decision, your family can begin to celebrate the bright future he has at Virginia Tech.

 

[CHSIslander2023]

Thats what's keeping me going. DS also got the turned down update in The Big Purge on Wednesday. I'm very much in the camp of hurt and frustrated parents. I know everything happens for a reason and we've had our fair share of highs and lows in the Navy. I've seen DH go through unexplainable rejection and rise to early promotion. I've seen people be promoted and then fired. It doesn't always make sense. My son goes to the #1 public high school in the country, the #6 stem school. He's a varsity athlete, a captain, a club officer, NHS, grades, scores, 7 APs, some with scores of 5, tutors kids, volunteers at the National Museum of the Marine Corps twice a month, and an Eagle Scout to boot. His BGO just so happens to be a dad in his troop and knows him. He had two nominations. I don't get it. We well understand the process, what they want. If one more uninformed person tells my family, "he'll get in, he's a legacy" I may very well punch them in the face. We have sacrificed a lot as a family, living apart for 3 of his 4 HS years to keep him in this school. It's not for nothing, he enjoyed it, he will be successful in wherever he lands, but it still stings.

Last year on I-day when he was in a severe car accident (while volunteering) and suffered a broken vetebrae, we all knew this process was very much in jeopardy but no one was more determined and called to persevere than my then 16yo. He did everything expected of him to heal, rehab, and meet deadlines, all without anger. We gave him every opportunity to say he didn't want to do this anymore. His retired Navy neurosurgeon cleared him of all restrictions and wrote a very convincing letter to the board. Unfortunately DoDMERB coded his injury as something it isn't exactly and for whatever reason USNA never reached the waiver process to explain. He's reached out to admissions to try to find out if it was his record or that big ugly DQ this late in the process they didn't want to mess with but hasn't heard back. It would be nice to have that closure but also since this will continue to affect all commissioning sources, it needs to be cleared up.

I know all the things about commissioning source doesn't matter, and all the other opportunities out there, this is entirely about the college experience for him. It's where he talked about going since he was little and slept with a stuffed Bill, and where he confidently declared he would pursue after a Tiger Cruise at 14. It's where he came home talking non-stop for the first time nearly ever after NASS and I finally felt confident it wasn't something he'd be doing for us. It's where I felt safe leaving him while I move overseas this summer because bad influences are minimized. It's where I met my husband, where my parents met, where my sister met her husband, where all three of my kids were baptized, where our good friend teaches plebes, where my aunt works, where my son asked to have his birthday parties be Navy tailgaters. It's familiar and home. These are all of MY emotions and MY process. I'm beyond happy to say my son is very excited to join the Corps of Cadets at Virginia Tech. He's not dwelling on it (or he's a very good actor). Unfortunately we're also still waiting on the final NROTC decisions and he is undecided for now if he wants to reapply or just fully embrace life in Blacksburg. That will be entirely his decision but the DQ does need to be resolved. I just want to say I sympathize with all of you in the same boat. Yes all of these kids are extraordinary but it doesn't change the shock. It doesn't change that the process had to drag out this long only to be met with sadness. There is no secret sauce but those who were fortunate to earn an appointment, I really hope you have warm fuzzy feelings by the time you leave the Yard and are filled with your own fond memories... in the meantime embrace the suck, you got here, you can do it!

Thank you for this heartfelt message. It resonates with my own emotions after the Turned Down news my DD got early this morning. It's going to take me awhile to recover from. Thankfully it seems my daughter is ok with it because I'm not. I'm just glad I was able to control my emotions enough to let her know that I was am so proud of her no matter what.

 

[Jganor]

My only input is to be absolutely committed that your DS is the point of the spear... don't ever contact anyone on his behalf (other than this forum) when needing q's answered, etc. Remember as a parent we are our children's support (good and bad times), and not the ones pursuing these goals and more importantly, living them. Good luck...sounds like he's got a great resume started!

This is 100% true, our son made every call, wrote every email, and went into every interview alone. My wife and I couldn’t believe when he said parents went into the interviews and waited in the hallway with the applicants.

 

[Gnarlygoat27]

I wish there was a reaction somewhere in between crying, loving and agreeing because your post brings out all the feels. I can't begin to know what the thought process is in admissions and why some of our overwhelmingly qualified kids are not getting offers. As I continue to wait, all I can think is that there must be some seriously incredible kids making up this class. I know your son will do amazing things wherever he goes and hope that after a few days of mourning this decision, your family can begin to celebrate the bright future he has at Virginia Tech.

Thank you!

Thank you for this heartfelt message. It resonates with my own emotions after the Turned Down news my DD got early this morning. It's going to take me awhile to recover from. Thankfully it seems my daughter is ok with it because I'm not. I'm just glad I was able to control my emotions enough to let her know that I was am so proud of her no matter what.

Thanks, I feel the same! I found out a few hours before DS and it gave me time to get it out before I saw him. Then I waited for him to be ready to bring it to me. It was a tough day....