USNA Class of 2028 Waiting and Speculating

PO2FleetApplicant said:
Who knows. I feel like they should get those ones knocked out first since it’s a lot harder for us to plan this stuff due to already being in the military but apparently they feel different🙃
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Most hear by 4/15. We have said it over and over. There are plenty who hear after 4/15 due to wait list, NAPS and foundation. In some ways priors have less to coordinate. Yes, orders and lots of things others don’t have. But directs are trying to coordinate dorms, payments for hold spots, notifying other schools, etc. Priors have other factors as well such as age as they are factoring who will do direct and NAPS. So in some ways, it’s why they find out later in the cycle.
 
hopefulhockeymom said:
You’re still hanging in there, @anom? We’ve been crossing our fingers and sending good vibes to you here in CO- remembering all your posts from last time too. Your fortitude was such a great example for DD for moving forward and trying again after her TD last year. Sending all the good thoughts 💙
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Still hanging in. I appreciate every single one of you who are supporting me. Shame y’all aren’t on the admissions board😂 let me know if she has any questions. I have a whole lot of dos and donts when reapplying
 
USMC Crayons said:
I get that you don't have any info to give. But do you think that complete radio silence from a BGO is a best practice? I have seen lots of complaints about BGO's and frankly while some don't have any merit, many of them are pretty valid. Especially with what Annapolis is telling us to expect from the process.
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If I have things to say then I say them, otherwise it is up to them to ask. I went through this as a candidate with little to no parental involvement AND no BGO at all as they were just starting the program. I actually reached out to one in my state and heard nothing which is one of the reasons that I became a BGO long ago. When my son applied, i was of course not his BGO and actually did not work the high school in our town for USNA. His BGO did the interview and then was silent. I'm glad to assist if anyone asks but I do not go around to my candidates on a regular basis.
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If you think that is inappropriate or negligent on my part, feel free to reach out and join and take my place, It's been 33 years thus far for me and I'll be glad to hand it off. I actually mentioned a thought of retiring to my Area Coordinator last year and I was asked to remain even though we have over 60 BGOs in our area.
 
I am not a BGO, so I don't have an inside track to the processes they should follow pre and post application submission.

However, it seems to me that their role should be to assist candidates during the submission process and to assess those applicants via the interview. It does not seem to me that they should be expected to provide any information whatsoever once the applications have been fully submitted. At that point, the ball has been handed off to the admissions staff.

I understand the angst that candidates (and their parents) experience during the long waiting in the dark, but it is not the fault of the BGOs that the wait seems interminable, nor is there anything they can do to shorten it.
 
justdoit19 said:
Does your child have questions asked of their BGO that have not been answered? Is that what you mean by radio silence?

I don’t have ongoing convos after the interview. Probably bc I’ve covered expectations already adequately in the interview process. Maybe my candidates feel well informed. Of course I would answer inquiries, but just haven’t had them.
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I wasn't speaking of our BGO, specifically. We had a rocky start with our AC (homeschooled) but luckily met a BGO at a MOC info night, and he has been truly a blessing (he was able to get DS assigned to him). Most of his communication with DS since the interview has been asking every once in a blue moon how sports were going, school, etc. Of course not needed, but a nice touch. I have, however hear horror stories from other parents that I won't deep dive into on this forum, but as a quick example, refusing to give a candidate a BGO interview or basically even talk to them unless they have a nomination in hand isn't really a good look.
 
OldRetSWO said:
If I have things to say then I say them, otherwise it is up to them to ask. I went through this as a candidate with little to no parental involvement AND no BGO at all as they were just starting the program. I actually reached out to one in my state and heard nothing which is one of the reasons that I became a BGO long ago. When my son applied, i was of course not his BGO and actually did not work the high school in our town for USNA. His BGO did the interview and then was silent. I'm glad to assist if anyone asks but I do not go around to my candidates on a regular basis.
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If you think that is inappropriate or negligent on my part, feel free to reach out and join and take my place, It's been 33 years thus far for me and I'll be glad to hand it off. I actually mentioned a thought of retiring to my Area Coordinator last year and I was asked to remain even though we have over 60 BGOs in our area.
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A little defensive there don't you think? You actually said that you would respond if asked. That's not radio silence. If a candidate reaches out to a BGO and gets zero response, that is 100% unsat.
 
NavyHoops said:
Most hear by 4/15. We have said it over and over. There are plenty who hear after 4/15 due to wait list, NAPS and foundation. In some ways priors have less to coordinate. Yes, orders and lots of things others don’t have. But directs are trying to coordinate dorms, payments for hold spots, notifying other schools, etc. Priors have other factors as well such as age as they are factoring who will do direct and NAPS. So in some ways, it’s why they find out later in the cycle.
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Yeah I’m aware of the whole most will know by 4/15. I definitely disagree with the having less to coordinate thing though lol I’ve never heard of a high schooler getting deployed or having to deal with that type of schedule
 
USMC Crayons said:
I wasn't speaking of our BGO, specifically. We had a rocky start with our AC (homeschooled) but luckily met a BGO at a MOC info night, and he has been truly a blessing (he was able to get DS assigned to him). Most of his communication with DS since the interview has been asking every once in a blue moon how sports were going, school, etc. Of course not needed, but a nice touch. I have, however hear horror stories from other parents that I won't deep dive into on this forum, but as a quick example, refusing to give a candidate a BGO interview or basically even talk to them unless they have a nomination in hand isn't really a good look.
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I cannot see any situation where that that even can occur. We HAVE to do interview. And since there are alternate sources for a nom, other than state sources, that doesn’t even make sense. If a BGO doesn’t have their interview in before the app is completed, our bosses get on us.

Maybe that applicant hadn’t completed their application. Idk. But it’s sound either like a fish tale, stretch of real circumstances, or a misunderstanding. If you are hearing this from another parent, it’s at least been filtered through student, to parent to you, similar to the game ‘phone’ around the table, things can get lost through multiple story telling. My bet is it’s a misunderstanding.

Most of us work our best to give their candidates a good experience and care about them. And most have full time careers, lives, and families.

I’m glad you had a good experience. That’s what I would expect to hear.
 
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justdoit19 said:
I cannot see any situation where that that even can occur. We HAVE to do interview. And since there are alternate sources for a nom, other than state sources, that doesn’t even make sense. If a BGO doesn’t have their interview in before the app is completed, our bosses get on us.

Maybe that applicant hadn’t completed their application. Idk. But it’s sound either like a fish tale, stretch of real circumstances, or a misunderstanding. For sure a very rare instance.

Most of us work our best to give their candidates a good experience and care about them. And most have full time careers, and families.

I’m glad you had a good experience. That’s what I would especially to hear.
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To be honest, I would not have believed it prior to my DS starting this process. But with more than one person telling me of issues, and the experience we had when we started I am more inclined to give some credit to those stories. If we hadn't gone to our MOC night and happened to stumble upon that BGO, I am not sure how things would have progressed. Keep in mind that this event was in late October, and DS's entire application was complete with the exception of DODMERB and the BGO interview. At that point, he couldn't even get a BGO assigned, much less an interview,
 
justdoit19 said:
I cannot see any situation where that that even can occur. We HAVE to do interview. And since there are alternate sources for a nom, other than state sources, that doesn’t even make sense. If a BGO doesn’t have their interview in before the app is completed, our bosses get on us.

Maybe that applicant hadn’t completed their application. Idk. But it’s sound either like a fish tale, stretch of real circumstances, or a misunderstanding. For sure a very rare instance.

Most of us work our best to give their candidates a good experience and care about them. And most have full time careers, and families.

I’m glad you had a good experience. That’s what I would especially to hear.
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My DS has had a great experience also. He’s pretty good at managing stress and has only reached out a handful of times but responses have always been informative, realistic yet encouraging. The casual check in’s are appreciated since we don’t personally know anyone else going through the waiting.
 
NavyHoops said:
Most hear by 4/15. We have said it over and over. There are plenty who hear after 4/15 due to wait list, NAPS and foundation. In some ways priors have less to coordinate. Yes, orders and lots of things others don’t have. But directs are trying to coordinate dorms, payments for hold spots, notifying other schools, etc. Priors have other factors as well such as age as they are factoring who will do direct and NAPS. So in some ways, it’s why they find out later in the cycle.
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So in your opinion (from past experience) a candidate that is pending without a nomination, and is most likely looking at NAPS or foundation (if anything at all, I realize a TWE is in play as well) may very well not hear anything today?
 
You may hear something today or you may not. It tells me they are still in the hunt for something, even without a MOC nom. That could result in a foundation, NAPS or direct appointment. It could also mean a TWE. The thing with a TWE, it’s hard to know if someone was the last cut and were that close. It could be your DS is in a NAPS pile right now and they are finalizing those offers, who gets the wait list and who is unfortunately below the line.

Not specific to your DS’s case, but many of those pending still will see wait list offers. Which means more waiting. Unfortunately, at this point if the process, there will be more TWEs than BFEs. It’s just math. So many great candidates, just only so many spots.
 
NavyHoops said:
You may hear something today or you may not. It tells me they are still in the hunt for something, even without a MOC nom. That could result in a foundation, NAPS or direct appointment. It could also mean a TWE. The thing with a TWE, it’s hard to know if someone was the last cut and were that close. It could be your DS is in a NAPS pile right now and they are finalizing those offers, who gets the wait list and who is unfortunately below the line.

Not specific to your DS’s case, but many of those pending still will see wait list offers. Which means more waiting. Unfortunately, at this point if the process, there will be more TWEs than BFEs. It’s just math. So many great candidates, just only so many spots.
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Wait list without a nomination? Lord help us. That's like double secret probation. Thanks for the feedback, BTW.
 
3xMidMom said:
It's not the last day... it's the day "most will hear by." It's not over yet!
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the CO of my army rotc unit at my Plan B went to WP and he said he had to wait until 4/28 for a waiver. That's the only thing keeping me hopeful right now as I'm waiting on a waiver
 
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