USNA Class of 2028 Waiting and Speculating

Aksel2028 said:
I think that parents and kids are "fooled" into believing that being offered a weekend visit via CVW and/or being accepted to the NASS event somehow indicates that Academy Admissions wants the applicant, like a blue-chip football recruit being wooed by the head coach of a nationally ranked D1 football program.

Yes, it is nice to have the experience for your DS/DD but remember it is for the candidate to see if the USNA is a good fit for them and to inspire those who believe so to continue through the application process. Also, it has been stated on this forum by the long-term moderators that attendance to NASS, CVW and STEM school, is not an admission factor.

The 40% number bandied about is what in statistics is called self-selecting. These candidates would have most likely been admitted even if the NASS/CVW/STEM programs did not exist.

Same for the LOA. So many stories on this forum about candidates receiving an LOA (some as early as August!) and having a stellar resume and even being a "recruited" athlete not getting an appointment.
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The LOA is completely different than NASS.

It is a letter of assurance you will get an appointment if you meet certain requirements- medical, pass CFA, and get a nomination typically.

Nobody that met the conditions received a twe as far as I know. Plenty of people who can’t meet the conditions have been.
 
A1Janitor said:
The LOA is completely different than NASS.

It is a letter of assurance you will get an appointment if you meet certain requirements- medical, pass CFA, and get a nomination typically.

Nobody that met the conditions received a twe as far as I know. Plenty of people who can’t meet the conditions have been.
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Correct - but as seen on this forum many parents/candidates incorrectly believe the LOA means an easier application journey - but as you correctly state they too have to go through the same gauntlet as those without an LOA and it is no guarantee to "smooth sailing" in the application process.
 
Aleks said:
they do in the sense that cadre writes a report on the kids and that goes into the admissions file
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Aksel2028 said:
I believe this is an "Urban Legend" that has been debunked on this Forum.
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fwiw to future applicants:

My kid was told by a rising firstie that a specific detail would be included in the report to admissions. I doubt the firstie was lying about the report.
 
AlwaysRunning said:
fwiw to future applicants:

My kid was told by a rising firstie that a specific detail would be included in the report to admissions. I doubt the firstie was lying about the report.
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The firstie wasn’t lying

The assumption is that report, whatever it says, has any meaning or impact on the decision.

Countless people in the know on this site have said it doesn’t.
 
AlwaysRunning said:
fwiw to future applicants:

My kid was told by a rising firstie that a specific detail would be included in the report to admissions. I doubt the firstie was lying about the report.
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Probably more of a practice for midshipman. Unless they write a report about really poor character, they won't view that over LORs and what not. I highly doubt midshipman can alter the decision unless it was really in the negative.
 
AlwaysRunning said:
fwiw to future applicants:

My kid was told by a rising firstie that a specific detail would be included in the report to admissions. I doubt the firstie was lying about the report.
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NASS detail is a summer leadership training for the Midshipmen. They are *mostly* just coming out of their 1st year as a Mid. As a squad leader, they are learning how to write reports, etc. Upperclass are running the detailers, etc.

Perhaps a very unfavorable evaluation *could* be a *small* piece of an outcome, but someone who is a poor squad member won’t get an appointment most likely no matter the detailers evaluation. I would suspect most detailers find positive things to say.

Its a training block. As A1 said, they aren’t lying. But the significance of the file is not significant in the overall application. It cannot be, bc *most* of the class did not attend NASS.
 
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anom said:
Probably more of a practice for midshipman. Unless they write a report about really poor character, they won't view that over LORs and what not. I highly doubt midshipman can alter the decision unless it was really in the negative.
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Even if it was negative, you are talking about a high schooler at a summer camp for just one week. A Mid will only have so much interaction with that camper for that week. Unless the note speaks about criminal acts or really bad ethical/moral behavior. Admissions has to place little value in the Summer seminar Mid note.
 
SWO28 said:
What are the stats of some of the people still pending? I play a varsity sport, 1410 SAT, team captain, multiple leadership positions. One thing lacking was maybe my CFA scores.
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Maybe your district is limited on spots? Did you interview well with your BGO? Just some ideas...
 
SWO28 said:
What are the stats of some of the people still pending? I play a varsity sport, 1410 SAT, team captain, multiple leadership positions. One thing lacking was maybe my CFA scores.
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My DS has 2 noms...1400 SAT (700/700)/ 31 ACT...multiple leadership positions including JROTC....track athlete........Inspire/ NASS.....still pending.....Best of luck to you.....congrats on still being here
 
This was just posted from the Who is still pending? Forum

Who is still pending?

Still pending in MD-02. I've been on edge this whole week... at this point any news will be welcome. I want to know what next year looks like.
www.serviceacademyforums.com

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Btw I just called, and the guy who I talked to was very knowledgeable and he said the majority of candidates found of their final status on Monday/tuesday. But he said they are on track to let everyone else know by tomorrow afternoon. So we’ll know tomorrow.
 
ParachutePanda said:
Getting a TWE and not being accepted to NASS are two very different things. Just because you did not get into NASS does not mean you don't have a chance at getting an appointment. I know plenty of current mids who did not get into STEM or NASS yet they received an appointment.
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And vice versa 😉! DS went to STEM but didn’t get an appointment (it’s ok - he ended up where he was supposed to be!).
 
anom said:
Probably more of a practice for midshipman. Unless they write a report about really poor character, they won't view that over LORs and what not. I highly doubt midshipman can alter the decision unless it was really in the negative.
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The report won’t get you in, but could keep you out.
 
Navymom0502 said:
May I ask if attending NAPS is then an automatic appointment to USNA the following year?
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If you navigate NAPS without any violations, trouble, etc. it’s asclose to a sure thing as you can get…. Without it being labeled a sure thing..

To me, NAPS is THEE Golden ticket. You get a fully funded PREP year to (more) ensure you are better prepared for plebe summer and your Naval Academy stay.
 
Boymomof3 said:
And vice versa 😉! DS went to STEM but didn’t get an appointment (it’s ok - he ended up where he was supposed to be!).
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each case is different -- we really don't have enough data to draw a picture.

How many SS turned down and also turned down in application (some SS turned down decided not to continue or USNA decided not to roll over to application)

How many SS accepted and then turned down in application

How many SS turned down then accepted in application

We really don't have the data to make prediction.

But it can be true if a candidate got turned down (due to lack of competitiveness), it is likely to get turned down for the same reason in application. -- this statement can be very true.
 
Ihavenoidea said:
Even if it was negative, you are talking about a high schooler at a summer camp for just one week. A Mid will only have so much interaction with that camper for that week. Unless the note speaks about criminal acts or really bad ethical/moral behavior. Admissions has to place little value in the Summer seminar Mid note.
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My daughter got a message and a text message about her report from her mid at NASS with a very nice story about her and her attitude during that week ...also ranking her a five and saying she's a type of person that the academy would like. She copied and pasted it and put it in her file. She got an loa and she got an appointment. I think it had to help a little bit.
 
momofnavygirl said:
My daughter got a message and a text message about her report from her mid at NASS with a very nice story about her and her attitude during that week ...also ranking her a five and saying she's a type of person that the academy would like. She copied and pasted it and put it in her file. She got a loa and she got an appointment. I think it had to help a little bit.
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Her record got her the LOA. She would have gotten the LOA and the appointment if the mid didn’t write that.
 
gniyji said:
We knew DS would get TD long time ago because he had been pending so long (since Dec 5 when he got nomination) plus he was turned down for NASS. Same profile in front two SA admission, very two different evaluations. It is more than just slate competition -- we know other candidates and appointees. We believe USNA just does not like his profile (we truly believe so) but his stats are so perfect -- they just kept him on pending long enough to make him feel better.
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I agree with that, we had similar experience with USMA. In retrospect I think it is better that DS wasn’t picked for WP.
 
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