Wait-List Situation

Temple17

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Could anyone provide any insight for the current wait-list situation. Were a lot of appointments turned down? When will the next wave of decisions come out? I would appreciate any knowledge that you may have.

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NavyHoops

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Don't think you will get any clear cut answers. From watching this forum, it appears there have been 2 waves of TWEs for those on the waitlist. None of us know how large or small they are as this forum is only a small sample size. USNA traditionally has a very high yield rate for accepting appointments. USNA has not officially stated the rate for this year that I have seen. If I had to speculate the fact that 2 waves of TWEs were handed out already for the wait list tells me the yield rate is again very high. None of us know when another wave will come. If an appointment is given off the waitlist I suspect it will be very limited, not a wave. More in the realm of 1-2 at a time given. They can be given at any point, even a few days before I day.

Bottom line... if you don't have a TWE you are still on the list. You could remain there until nearly I Day. That means continue with Plan B, cross your fingers and if that phone call comes be in shape to say yes.
 

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Agree 100% with what Hoops said. The numbers are likely to be very small. Based on historical patterns, most folks on the WL should hear one way or another by early June, if not before. The delay until the "last minute" for a handful could be due to an expected late medical clearance that does or doesn't come.

If you're still in the game at this point and are eventually turned down, you can be sure your packet was exceptionally competitive. Thus, if you are still interested for the Class of 2022, you would definitely be in good position -- provided of course that you continue that high trajectory over the summer and in your first semester of college.
 

promethium

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The yield rate is sitting at about 90% this year. The Dean of Admissions said they might not even get to the waitlist this year. That being said, stuff happens between now and I-day (ex. someone gets injured) and a spot could still open up.
 

VTMIDN

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The yield rate is sitting at about 90% this year. The Dean of Admissions said they might not even get to the waitlist this year. That being said, stuff happens between now and I-day (ex. someone gets injured) and a spot could still open up.
where did you get this information?
 

vadad23

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The yield rate is sitting at about 90% this year. The Dean of Admissions said they might not even get to the waitlist this year. That being said, stuff happens between now and I-day (ex. someone gets injured) and a spot could still open up.
I know of at least 1 P2B who had gotten injured recently and will unfortunately will not be able to join in PS for this class.
 

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Sorry to hear that. Hopefully USNA is able to work with that young person and grant an LOA pending medical clearance for next year!

For those curious it doesn't mean an exact 1 for 1 in these situations. USNA will be looking at overall numbers first and foremost before making a decision.
 

Humey

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I am curious about something. Not arguing with the 90% rate and maybe I dont understand the procedure, but it seems like lots of people apply to more than one academy. I would assume that a percentage of them get accepted to most of them. Since we have no idea what their first choice was going in, wouldnt that mean that there should be spaces available.? Or have these spaces been taken up already as the admissions office have already accepted other cadets as people have been declining all along? From what I gather in the civilian college worlds, a school will have 500 openings, give out 600 (making up numbers) acceptances and hope that 500 accept. If only 450 accept, then they go down the wait list and offer the next 50 a spot at the school. Is this the same for academy or do they have 500 spots, offer 300 spots which 200 will accept. That leaves 300 (500-200) and offer another 300 spots and so on until they fill up.
 

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USNA will offer X amount of appointments knowing they have a target class size. The yield rate has remained high for many years right around 90% for USNA. The target class size is set by big Navy based upon the 'needs of the Navy' and congressional mandates. Because the yield rate has been so high very few have come off of it in the last few years.

Your assumption that many apply to multiple SAs is sort of true. Not sure on the number who do, but plenty do. It doesn't mean they get a nomination or are 3Q for each of those schools.
 

VTMIDN

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USNA will offer X amount of appointments knowing they have a target class size. The yield rate has remained high for many years right around 90% for USNA. The target class size is set by big Navy based upon the 'needs of the Navy' and congressional mandates. Because the yield rate has been so high very few have come off of it in the last few years.

Your assumption that many apply to multiple SAs is sort of true. Not sure on the number who do, but plenty do. It doesn't mean they get a nomination or are 3Q for each of those schools.
So would you say there is usually at least one person taken off of the waitlist? because both my sister in laws got in off of the waitlist...
 

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No of us can predict if admissions will offer anyone off the waitlist. If it has happened, no one has posted about it. Last year we didn't see anyone get in off the waitlist until late June and it was very few (it was less than a handful who posted on the board... none of us know how many total).
 

usna1985

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USNA Admissions has said that, some years no one is taken from the WL. In other years, there are anywhere from a handful to more than a dozen. As Hoops has repeatedly said, it depends on yield and USNA's yield has been very high in recent years. If the class size is already 100% of what they want, then USNA will send TWEs to almost all of the WL but may still hold onto a few WL candidates in the event someone has a late-breaking medical issue or other reason that prevents them from joining the plebe class. Or if someone is waiting for a medical issue to resolve (i.e., successful recovery from surgery) and it doesn't happen in time.

Bottom line: every year is different. The fact that USNA took 20 people from the WL in some prior year (if that has ever happened) has absolutely no bearing on whether even one person will be accepted from the WL this year. So, as Hoops has said, if you're on the WL, you should assume you will receive a TWE and proceed accordingly with your alternative plans. If you do receive an appointment, then you need to decide what to do -- but definitely don't count on it.
 
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