Waiver denied

blinkus said:
This. From my emails with the WA at USNA, each medical DQ is different. How my DQ was handled with someone elses DQ, even if they were for the same condition, is treated vastly differently. If a waiver is possible, it'll definitely be evaluated. And each applicant is worth seeking a waiver for! (at least in my opinion) :thumb::thumb:
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Is there any way you could share what your process looked like? or if you could message me privately...sorry looking for some optimism here
 
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jzw said:
Is there any way you could share what your process looked like? or if you could message me privately...sorry looking for some optimism here
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Med completed 8/10
DQ from USNA on my birthday 😭😭
Waiver Pending 1/27
AMI 2/2
AMI Sent 2/18
Waiver Granted 2/26

For Asthma (dates might be slightly wrong)
 
Thank you for your responses. He had everything done and accepted except the medical waiver which the doctors said he no longer had these things which was when he was 1 years old. I honestly thing someone didn’t read his information correctly. It really was an open and shut case. Very disappointed in the process. Hopefully we will get some clarity from the letter they send out.
 
I fully agree with those who have recommended the candidate reach out to USNA for more specifics on the medical issue. There are 3 possibilities.

First, the medical issue is not waiverable for this particular candidate. Meaning it will never be waived. In that case, there is no sense in reapplying. Depending on the issue, a different service may be an option.

Second, the issue was not waived this year but there are things that could change - usually, the passage of time. I’m guessing that is not the case here based on what was said.

Third, the record was not sufficiently competitive to review for a waiver this year. I don’t know whether USNA treats this as a denied waiver or just a turndown. That means reapplying Is an option.

The medical folks may explain why a waiver wasn’t granted. Unfortunately, more than a few candidates who lead healthy, active lives have a condition that precludes military service. They may not be aware of it b/c it doesn’t affect daily life. But the military is not normal life. First, you are often in situations that really stress your body. Second, you may not be able quickly to access medication or medical personnel the way you do in civilian life.

A serious medical issue in battle not only puts you at risk, but risks the lives of those around you. The military has to consider all of this when deciding to grant a waiver. It may not seem fair. But it is.
 
Gonavy2024 said:
My son got a letter of assurance, his nomination, academics are excellent and he passed his fitness with flying colors. They asked for more information for his medical waiver. His doctors said he didn’t have these medical things anymore(they were from when he was 1 years old) they just denied his medical waiver with no reason. Is there anything else that can be done? I don’t understand how they could do this.
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This brings back some memories of the 2027 admission cycle for me. If you believe your DQs will not prevent you from serving and have your heart set on USNA, reapply. That's what I did.

I got a LOA for USNA on 01OCT2022 during the 2027 cycle and was medically turned down for D154.00 (Current or recurrent diplopia) and D155.41(Distant visual acuity not correctable to 20/20 in each eye). I picked up an NROTC Scholarship, got an NROTC medical waiver, and was part of my state school's unit. My heart was still on USNA, so I went through the whole reapplication cycle again and this past week I accepted my Offer of Appointment to be part of the Class of 2028.

I don't know your particular situation, as every medical waiver is different for every candidate. However, if your son's dream is to attend USNA, have him talk to his BGO about his desire to reapply as a College Reapplicant.
 
Congratulations! He can always reapply. He got a national rotc scholarship but is waiting for the waiver for that one. He was cleared of all his medical things. So if is really confusing. We need to find out how what happened and if makes sense to reapply again if he even wants to do it.
 
Gonavy2024 said:
Congratulations! He can always reapply. He got a national rotc scholarship but is waiting for the waiver for that one. He was cleared of all his medical things. So if is really confusing. We need to find out how what happened and if makes sense to reapply again if he even wants to do it.
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I think you are confusing a civilians DR clearing things, with military medical clearing all things.

You mention your DR saying ‘he doesn’t have it’ anymore. That’s why I say this.

USNA denied the waiver. Therefore, according to what you have posted, he was NOT cleared of all medical things. ROTC may also not waive the DQ he has (which you say you need a waiver from ROTC, so that means he has a medical DQ). If he was cleared by DODMERB, he wouldn’t have a DQ that needs to be waived.

Civilian DR’s have no say in this. They don’t clear you. They can provide supplemental information, but medical decisions lie with each ascension program (ie: USNA and ROTC in this example). And their own medical team.

Good luck, reach out as mentioned for clarity.
 
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For a thoughtful, well informed, and an depth commentary about military recruitment and medical issues there is an article in National Review from Feb 9, 2024 titled "Why Military Recruitment is Miserable".

www.nationalreview.com

Why Military Recruitment Is Miserable | National Review

Recruiters help clarify what exactly is causing their sign-up woes — and it’s not just the aftermath of the pandemic.
www.nationalreview.com www.nationalreview.com

Not specific to the Academies, but about how the military in general deals with medical issues and difficulties in getting waivers.
 
SOLL said:
For a thoughtful, well informed, and an depth commentary about military recruitment and medical issues there is an article in National Review from Feb 9, 2024 titled "Why Military Recruitment is Miserable".

www.nationalreview.com

Why Military Recruitment Is Miserable | National Review

Recruiters help clarify what exactly is causing their sign-up woes — and it’s not just the aftermath of the pandemic.
www.nationalreview.com www.nationalreview.com

Not specific to the Academies, but about how the military in general deals with medical issues and difficulties in getting waivers.
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Not a bad article, but only scratches the surface. You can’t talk about recruiting woes without also talking about retention issues. Military leadership at large is failing miserably in both departments. On the retention side of the house, the brass knew a probIem was coming (they were told) but decided to ignore it. I also think minimizing the political/woke aspect is also a bad play. In my experience, many young males that traditionally would be ideal candidates for military service have had enough in high school and the idea of enlisting to get more of the same is a huge turnoff. Not saying they are right or wrong for their stance, just calling it like I see it.
 
He no longer has asthma or a food allergy. He did when he was under the age of 5. These declarations were made with tests required by DODMERB and statements from board certified allergist and pulmonologist. The allergist was in the military and the pulmonologist has written these clearances before. Not sure what else my son can do. He did everything they asked and they denied it. It doesn’t make sense to us but hopefully we will get more clarification soon:)
 
USMC Crayons said:
Not a bad article, but only scratches the surface. You can’t talk about recruiting woes without also talking about retention issues. Military leadership at large is failing miserably in both departments. On the retention side of the house, the brass knew a probIem was coming (they were told) but decided to ignore it. I also think minimizing the political/woke aspect is also a bad play. In my experience, many young males that traditionally would be ideal candidates for military service have had enough in high school and the idea of enlisting to get more of the same is a huge turnoff. Not saying they are right or wrong for their stance, just calling it like I see it.
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Wokeness in SA's is a problem? Maybe. But wait till the candidate sees wokeness in the Ivies, for example. They are straight-up, hard-core communists. Just calling a spade a spade.
 
newtonsapple said:
Wokeness in SA's is a problem? Maybe. But wait till the candidate sees wokeness in the Ivies, for example. They are straight-up, hard-core communists. Just calling a spade a spade.
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I was really referring to the broader military/enlisted side of the house not the service academies specifically. Many of those that traditionally enlist and then move along after 4 years are now skipping it altogether in favor of going straight into the workforce or into a trade program. While the idea of the 9/11 GI Bill is nice, the narrative of going to college after the military has really faded in the past few years. Many feel it’s not worth it regardless if it is paid for or not.
 
jzw said:
Thanks so much, I was DQed 11/15, and "waiver pending" 4/1, so maybe soon...
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The waiting is horrible.
My son was med DQ'd d/t an orthopedic surgery in August. Got his LOA in the beginning of February. At the end of March, the Coast Guard requested AMI (he also had an LOA there) while there was radio silence from USNA. Checked Dodmerb and USNA portal a week later and Medical Waiver granted from USNA but not yet from the CG🤣. It was followed quickly by an official appointment.
I had to go through the medical waiver process with my oldest son as well...for the NROTC scholarship. It was a different DQ and took 2 years.
Praying for your green check!
jzw said:
Is there any way you could share what your process looked like? or if you could message me privately...sorry looking for some optimism here
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For the navy rotc scholarship, how long does it take to get the waiver. There are two codes listed but they didn’t ask for any additional information. They are for peanut and Ashtma which his doctors cleared him. We are going to ask his dodmerb medical contact if we should send those letters to her.
Do they retroactively apply the scholarship if it doesn’t go green until after you have completed a semester or so. Why did it take 2 years? That would be really hard!
 
Gonavy2024 said:
My son got a letter of assurance, his nomination, academics are excellent and he passed his fitness with flying colors. They asked for more information for his medical waiver. His doctors said he didn’t have these medical things anymore(they were from when he was 1 years old) they just denied his medical waiver with no reason. Is there anything else that can be done? I don’t understand how they could do this.
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I am so sorry for you and your son. That is heartbreaking. It is also my biggest fear as we are still Pending and my son got a DQ for a childhood diagnosis. They never requested more information, although we sent in letters from his doctors saying it was no longer an issue. I wish your son the best of everything, and I hope he isn't too crushed.
 
Gonavy2024 said:
For the navy rotc scholarship, how long does it take to get the waiver. There are two codes listed but they didn’t ask for any additional information. They are for peanut and Ashtma which his doctors cleared him. We are going to ask his dodmerb medical contact if we should send those letters to her.
Do they retroactively apply the scholarship if it doesn’t go green until after you have completed a semester or so. Why did it take 2 years? That would be really hard!
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It just depends on the severity of the allergy and the documentation needed. He was allergic to cashews and pistachios but did oral immunotherapy and a food challenge to prove he no longer reacted to the foods. Our doctor kept providing documentation but there was always something missing so the kept asking for more information. I got to the point that I wrote them a letter and said there is no more information and he got the waiver 2 weeks later. They reimbursed tuition for 1 out of the 2 years even though it was the national scholarship and not a side load.
 
newtonsapple said:
Wokeness in SA's is a problem? Maybe. But wait till the candidate sees wokeness in the Ivies, for example. They are straight-up, hard-core communists. Just calling a spade a spade.
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No one commented on this, which is great, because it has nothing to do with a medical waiver or the article presented in the comments. But a big thank you to all the midshipmen or cadets in ROTC at the Ivies.
 
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