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Iwannabeanace76

Iwannabeanace76

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I am currently a Senior, and I’ve just now found out I didn’t get a nomination from any of my sources. The truth is I wasn’t upset over this, I kind of expected it. I currently have a 3.3 GPA and a 1230 SAT, I was captain of my cross country team, the leading NCO in my civil air patrol squadron, a lifeguard/swimming instructor, founder of a newspaper club, the head of 3 other clubs in past years and a member of my schools senior committee.

I ended my XC season early because of a stress fracture in my fibula, that put me in recovery for around 3 months. During that time I fell apart, I was just in a dark place mentally and lost on what to do, I gained weight and lost my running progress, my grades dipped and just didn’t know what to do. I’m applying for a local NROTC college now and for the scholarship. But before this pitfall I found the service academies to be life changing.

Coming out of COVID I was depressed and a shell of myself, and when I visited Annapolis in the summer of 2021 I was blown away by it all. Everything was perfect, the comradery and the history of it all. It did change me, I might be in an even worse condition now than if I hadn’t found these places.

What I’m asking is now, I just where do I go from here. I’ve dug myself quite the hole and it’s up to me to get out of it, but I just would love advice and experiences anyone else has had in cases at all like mine, thank you

(Apologies for spelling errors, it’s late and I’m very very tired.)
 
Iwannabeanace76 said:
I am currently a Senior, and I’ve just now found out I didn’t get a nomination from any of my sources. The truth is I wasn’t upset over this, I kind of expected it. I currently have a 3.3 GPA and a 1230 SAT, I was captain of my cross country team, the leading NCO in my civil air patrol squadron, a lifeguard/swimming instructor, founder of a newspaper club, the head of 3 other clubs in past years and a member of my schools senior committee.

I ended my XC season early because of a stress fracture in my fibula, that put me in recovery for around 3 months. During that time I fell apart, I was just in a dark place mentally and lost on what to do, I gained weight and lost my running progress, my grades dipped and just didn’t know what to do. I’m applying for a local NROTC college now and for the scholarship. But before this pitfall I found the service academies to be life changing.

Coming out of COVID I was depressed and a shell of myself, and when I visited Annapolis in the summer of 2021 I was blown away by it all. Everything was perfect, the comradery and the history of it all. It did change me, I might be in an even worse condition now than if I hadn’t found these places.

What I’m asking is now, I just where do I go from here. I’ve dug myself quite the hole and it’s up to me to get out of it, but I just would love advice and experiences anyone else has had in cases at all like mine, thank you

(Apologies for spelling errors, it’s late and I’m very very tired.)
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You are doing everything right. The SA application process can be very tricky, and whether you get a nomination or not is not a reflection of your success. You have the complete right idea to apply for the NROTC scholarship and attend college, it is an excellent path and will also put you in an excellent spot to re-apply if you choose to do so next year.

I applied to USAFA straight out of high school - the school also seemed perfect to me - but I did not end up getting a nomination. I pursued an afrotc scholarship and attended a civilian university. I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would, and the things I have learned from balancing rotc-living alone-uni coursework have completely changed who I am as an applicant. I also learned I was super interested in the Navy, and decided this year to re-apply to USAFA and USNA. This year, I was able to obtain a nomination. The effort I put into my first semester of college paid off, and the academies will appreciate it if you can succeed in college.

Another way to think of it is that whether you attend USNA or complete NROTC, you will be commissioning as a Navy officer, and that's what really counts. In 4 years you could end up in that exact same position, regardless of where you go. Go for that NROTC scholarship, join their unit whether you are offered the scholarship or not, and keep pushing forward. You will be in a great position then, whether you choose to re-apply or not. You got this :)
 
Hey man, just wanted to say it’s definitely not over until you get the rejection from the academy. You still technically have the vice president nomination, and your sources can overturn their decision if you happen to get an LOA. I’m not gonna lie to you, both of those are slim pickings, but what is less unobtainable is the board sending you to NAPS or foundation for a year. Even if those all fall through, you can apply next year on your own if you so choose. My best friend did a year of college before he got here. Chin up, you still got a dog in the fight
 
I’m glad you’re not beating yourself up over it. Sh*t happens—you took responsibility, got through some adversity, and are focused on what’s ahead. Good job. Academy is not the end all be all. Whether you attend a private or state school, you’ll have plenty of options for pursuing either military or civilian job options. Keep an open mind.
 
Navy_Simp said:
“You still technically have the vice president nomination, and your sources can overturn their decision if you happen to get an LOA”
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Just a small correction, bc it matters for understanding: every year, there are candidates holding LOA’s (with obtaining a nomination the criteria to fulfill the LOA), who are unable to meet their conditions and therefore no appointment. Having an LOA doesn’t always result in an appointment. The conditions of the LOA must be met for the appointment to be offered.

OP you have the right idea with your plan. Dont beat yourself up. Life is full of adjustments challenges and changes. What’s important is to make a plan to move forward. Sounds like you have a plan.

Also, a large percentage of each class is made up from reapplicants. Every year. There’s nothing wrong with waiting a year! You could also be offered a prep or foundation offer. So it’s not over till it’s over!
 
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Iwannabeanace76 said:
I am currently a Senior, and I’ve just now found out I didn’t get a nomination from any of my sources. The truth is I wasn’t upset over this, I kind of expected it. I currently have a 3.3 GPA and a 1230 SAT, I was captain of my cross country team, the leading NCO in my civil air patrol squadron, a lifeguard/swimming instructor, founder of a newspaper club, the head of 3 other clubs in past years and a member of my schools senior committee.

I ended my XC season early because of a stress fracture in my fibula, that put me in recovery for around 3 months. During that time I fell apart, I was just in a dark place mentally and lost on what to do, I gained weight and lost my running progress, my grades dipped and just didn’t know what to do. I’m applying for a local NROTC college now and for the scholarship. But before this pitfall I found the service academies to be life changing.

Coming out of COVID I was depressed and a shell of myself, and when I visited Annapolis in the summer of 2021 I was blown away by it all. Everything was perfect, the comradery and the history of it all. It did change me, I might be in an even worse condition now than if I hadn’t found these places.

What I’m asking is now, I just where do I go from here. I’ve dug myself quite the hole and it’s up to me to get out of it, but I just would love advice and experiences anyone else has had in cases at all like mine, thank you

(Apologies for spelling errors, it’s late and I’m very very tired.)
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Knowing nothing about your full transcript other than GPA and SAT score I would say you have a shot at NAPS still FWIW. Stay positive, work Plan B and one step at a time.
 
Iwannabeanace76 said:
What I’m asking is now, I just where do I go from here.
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If it isn't too late, you could consider an NROTC scholarship. The end result is the same as USNA: a commissioning. Qualified applicants have a very good chance of receiving a scholarship this FY when you consider the amount they intend to award and the historical applicant numbers.
 
Two answers:
- This year you still have a chance or two out there, so follow the leads others have already mentioned above. Your chances are not great, but you're not dead until the TWE arrives.
- If the hole is deep and you don't get accepted in 2024 then you just may need an extra year to prove that you're clear of that wreck and back on your feet. Take the opportunity to lay out your Plan B, get after it at the next school and put in a great app next year. This path is arduous because you're asking for something very difficult and the process acts as an informal filter to pick off those who can't make a long journey. If this doesn't come through this spring you just need to shrug it off, improve your grades, stay involved in sports, get accepted somewhere else, maybe try for xROTC and line yourself up for that path or another run at an academy. Keep the end goal in mind and embrace the long road and you can reach your destination.
 
Iwannabeanace76 said:
I am currently a Senior, and I’ve just now found out I didn’t get a nomination from any of my sources. The truth is I wasn’t upset over this, I kind of expected it. I currently have a 3.3 GPA and a 1230 SAT, I was captain of my cross country team, the leading NCO in my civil air patrol squadron, a lifeguard/swimming instructor, founder of a newspaper club, the head of 3 other clubs in past years and a member of my schools senior committee.

I ended my XC season early because of a stress fracture in my fibula, that put me in recovery for around 3 months. During that time I fell apart, I was just in a dark place mentally and lost on what to do, I gained weight and lost my running progress, my grades dipped and just didn’t know what to do. I’m applying for a local NROTC college now and for the scholarship. But before this pitfall I found the service academies to be life changing.

Coming out of COVID I was depressed and a shell of myself, and when I visited Annapolis in the summer of 2021 I was blown away by it all. Everything was perfect, the comradery and the history of it all. It did change me, I might be in an even worse condition now than if I hadn’t found these places.

What I’m asking is now, I just where do I go from here. I’ve dug myself quite the hole and it’s up to me to get out of it, but I just would love advice and experiences anyone else has had in cases at all like mine, thank you

(Apologies for spelling errors, it’s late and I’m very very tired.)
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Did you apply for the VP nom? USNA manages and selects those; no VP staff involved. Just complete the application as directed in USNA website.

It is believed VP noms are held by Admissions and used for candidates they want who have not obtained noms from other sources.
 
First, you're smart to start managing expectations. It truly isn't over until one receives a turndown, but the odds are much longer without a nom.

Second, if you don't get into an SA, do the very best thing available to you to advance your future. There are many roads to success; you want to start out on one of them.

Third, read the "Reapplicant" sticky. Yes, I wrote it :) but it does contain some good advice.
 
Capt MJ said:
Did you apply for the VP nom? USNA manages and selects those; no VP staff involved. Just complete the application as directed in USNA website.

It is believed VP noms are held by Admissions and used for candidates they want who have not obtained noms from other sources.
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Is it necessary to apply for a VP nomination if you already have a nomination? My understanding is that our MOC does not do Principal nom or ranked slate.
 
A1Janitor said:
Necessary, no. Recommended, yes.

It is a very simple application.
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Would this be beneficial if there would be two (or more) viable candidates from this slate and they want both (or more) but can only charge one to the MOC? The others who would be wanted would have to have another place to be charged? I feel like I am maybe understanding this process.... maybe!
 
Straight pure Berners. We've been trying to get one for about a year now, but keep running into hiccups with the various breeders we've been trying to work with. On to breeder #4 now.
 
It is recommended that one applies for any and every nom they are eligible for which they can compete. Potentially gives the Academy more flexibility.

Keep in mind, the VP nom is pretty much a unicorn. There are only 5 VP slots at each Academy at any given time. Basically one per year. Pretty tough to get, and is totally at the discretion of the SA.
 
IronmanDaremo said:
Straight pure Berners. We've been trying to get one for about a year now, but keep running into hiccups with the various breeders we've been trying to work with. On to breeder #4 now.
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I was going to get a bernedoodle or a newfiepoo (allergies). A vet client of mine told me not to - they drool over everything apparently.

So I settled for my goldendoodle and my Irish goldendoodle.
 
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