What do girls think of Cadets

scoutpilot said:
The only conclusions people draw about you are the ones you make easy with your words. You seem to think you have the military figured out at the tender age of 17 or 18. Here's some advice that'll save your juvenile butt going forward: stop joking about women. Stop "joking" about what they want sexually. Stop "joking" about what makes a woman hot or not. In short, stop being a juvenile, high school misogynist and act like someone who might be worthy of leading both male and female sailors.

Being "uptight for no reason" is how the petulant children in the ranks see leadership. Always has been. That attitude is the problem. I'd advise you to step back and seriously consider whether you're leadership material. I've been involved with the NSW community for nearly a decade now, and I can already see you have a longboard way to go in the attitude department.

Continue on this tack at your own peril. You want a fast way out of the military? Keep making jokes about women. Don't take my word for it, though. Try it around some senior leaders.
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Wise words to a precocious 17 year old. And you didn't even touch on proper grammar and spelling.
 
First off I wasn't making jokes about women and you need to stop trying to put words in my mouth. You don't even know me, because of something I said that you don't like you think you can make judgement on my character. Well sorry to tell you I do accept people judging me and I will go back and reflect on what you have said..but I don't know why you want to pick up a fight for no reason or try to spoil my image over little jokes. You are a very angry person and and you are the type to hate when people are having a good time and the only thing I said about women was during world war two, which many use to feel that way in the past, my neighbor who was in the war said that, I only quoted his words. Please this will be my last post on this thread...Have a nice day.
 
Vitalzt said:
First off I wasn't making jokes about women
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Vitalzt said:
Back to the days of world war 2, when girls weren't considered hot if there weren't with a sailor.
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You know we can all read, right?

Vitalzt said:
Well sorry to tell you I do accept people judging me and I will go back and reflect on what you have said..but I don't know why you want to pick up a fight for no reason or try to spoil my image over little jokes.
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Wait, I thought you weren't making jokes? You're doing a fine job of shaping your own image, young man. If you don't like what you see in the mirror, the problem lies not with the person holding the mirror up to you.
 
scoutpilot said:
You know we can all read, right?
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Well if I said that, doesn't mean I wasn't in world war 2. Someone told me or saw it somewhere and I was only going with the flow of the conversation. didn't mean to offend anyone who or come across as being disrespectful .
 
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scoutpilot said:
You know we can all read, right?



Wait, I thought you weren't making jokes? You're doing a fine job of shaping your own image, young man. If you don't like what you see in the mirror, the problem lies not with the person holding the mirror up to you.
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Since you don't seem to be understanding what I was trying to say, but I know you just want me to be careful about the type of statements I make, even though you ended up going over the border by judging me and calling me names which I understand clearly. Thank you very much for all the advice, I will continue to work hard and I believe I will make a good officer. Just for you to understand, people do make mistakes and make statements that they shouldn't have made, it might offend others and it could mean nothing to some. But you don't have to go all out on them and portray them as a worthless human to the rest of the people on this forum.
 
Vitalzt said:
Talking about spelling and grammar, this is not an essay contest.
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It's not, but as a college teacher (and parent of two kids who were awarded NROTC and AFROTC scholarships - one going to MIT), my advice is practice as you play. If you get in the habit of using solid vocab and proper grammar in casual postings, it'll come easier to you in school and at work. You're right, this isn't an essay contest, but would that mean over beers or watching a game with workmates that you'd slip into bad grammar and slang?
 
Vitalzt said:
You need to relax a little, you are getting a little too serious here for no reason. By the way we were making jokes about the girl thing, but I guess you don't find it funny so that on you. FYI I'm not yet a sailor, i'm just but a USNA candidate still waiting to hear back from admissions and we were just having fun exchanging jokes back and forward until you came and spoiled the whole show by being uptight for no reason. As for the seal trident, I am not yet a seal but an aspiring on, and I don't have it as my avatar because I want people to think i'm SEAL or anything, so please do not contact senior chief Don Shipley asking him to check if i'm a phony or not. I understand that you are a senior person and you have been on this forum much longer than I have but you've really got to take it easy and not so quick into making conclusion about me. Seriously, I think if knew me we will get along well, I know you are a wonderful person and you have probably served this nation, which I have the deepest respect for, but just relax a bit there were jokes. Try to have fun:D.
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You might want to rethink your bravado there bootcamp. One of these people you're bowing up on might just turn out to be your new sea daddy or even worse, have your division Chief or Master Chief on speed dial. It's a relatively small community. [emoji23]
 
BTCS/USN said:
One of these people you're bowing up on might just turn out to be your new sea daddy or even worse
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Well, the one he decided to spar with is a Major, so the kid does have a highly misplaced bravado.
 
Vitalzt said:
But you don't have to go all out on them and portray them as a worthless human
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I love that one, just wait til your a new Ensign reporting to your first ship, being portrayed as a worthless human will be the least of your worries. This is not directed at you personally, it's for any new Ensign.
 
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty one, I was astonished by how much he had learned in seven years". Mark Twain

Ah youth, wasted on the young.
 
Vitalzt said:
I think you missed the point here, but can care less those were all Army guys being way over weight and none were sailors. So you don't think he will have any charm after all the swag dripping off from his uniform?:D

Back to the days of world war 2, when girls weren't considered hot if there weren't with a sailor.
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People like you are the reason I have to have serious conversations with my new new female soldiers integrating into this branch for the first time...simply because they're female.

I just finished reading this thread and I seriously hope you heed the advice given. If you want to become a leader, you need to understand when you speak people listen and they attribute what you say to your position/rank/authority. Ensure what you say conveys the appropriate message. Telling your boss your joke about women was simply a joke when he ends your career with his signature won't seem like such a joke anymore. Don't tarnish the Officer Corps so many of us here strive to uphold every day.

Edit: And until you put on the uniform of this nations warriors, its best if you keep some of your comments to yourself.
 
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