What do the Cadre think of the cadets

The_Grizzly

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Having seen many videos of the cadre yelling and intimidating the cadets but at the same time, during other times they seem really chill or funny (like in this video). I want to know what they actually think of the new basic cadets.
 
Had dinner with 4 of my sons friends and him last night after the game. One tip of advice I can tell you that they talked about. Don’t put anything on your social media you don’t want held against you. Second piece of advice is make your Instagram PRIVATE !!!
 
I'd agree with the above. Upperclassmen yell and are intense because it is their job. The only reason that your cadre actually wouldn't like you is because you don't take anything seriously. If you are just really bad at something, but your cadre see you putting out, that still looks good on you.
 
Had dinner with 4 of my sons friends and him last night after the game. One tip of advice I can tell you that they talked about. Don’t put anything on your social media you don’t want held against you. Second piece of advice is make your Instagram PRIVATE !!!
Luckily I don't have Instagram :)
 
During BCT, the yelling is usually for purposes of emphasis, to induce artificial stress, or so that others can hear the correction/instruction.
 
In my experience your Cadre from basic will become your best upperclassmen friends once the academic year starts. They like their basics but can’t actually be friends with them until basic is over.
 
Firstie here, I have worked multiple basic trainings and what I think of my cadets is along the lines of brotherhood and sisterhood. Sure they're full of dumb mistakes as basics, it's called having a "basic brain" to do and say the most stupid things. But we were all there at one point and it is something that we laugh about down the road. It is honestly one of the most rewarding experiences in my life to take a group of individuals and teach them a thing or two about the military, teamwork, and life. Despite the countless mistakes they make and will make, it is unexplainable how proud you are of them as they get accepted as cadets, get recognized, and become the cadets you want to see at USAFA. Although the friendship part is true, immediately after, you have to have that level of professionalism, however, that never gets in the way of caring about them and their success. I will say one thing that many glosses over, as a person who invested time into their cadets, you become one of the most defensive and caring people for those cadets. A huge papa/mama bear instinct kicks in, something that'll never change no matter how much time. I know parents think of the scary world of USAFA they enter, but when their cadre care for them, there is no need to worry because they are in the best hands they could be. One thing I overheard my cadre say that will forever be a perfect way to explain it is this funny quote, "Sure they're a bunch of idiots, but they're my idiots, and I will see them be the best they can be; better than I was to get the next in line ready to care and win".
 
Firstie here, I have worked multiple basic trainings and what I think of my cadets is along the lines of brotherhood and sisterhood. Sure they're full of dumb mistakes as basics, it's called having a "basic brain" to do and say the most stupid things. But we were all there at one point and it is something that we laugh about down the road. It is honestly one of the most rewarding experiences in my life to take a group of individuals and teach them a thing or two about the military, teamwork, and life. Despite the countless mistakes they make and will make, it is unexplainable how proud you are of them as they get accepted as cadets, get recognized, and become the cadets you want to see at USAFA. Although the friendship part is true, immediately after, you have to have that level of professionalism, however, that never gets in the way of caring about them and their success. I will say one thing that many glosses over, as a person who invested time into their cadets, you become one of the most defensive and caring people for those cadets. A huge papa/mama bear instinct kicks in, something that'll never change no matter how much time. I know parents think of the scary world of USAFA they enter, but when their cadre care for them, there is no need to worry because they are in the best hands they could be. One thing I overheard my cadre say that will forever be a perfect way to explain it is this funny quote, "Sure they're a bunch of idiots, but they're my idiots, and I will see them be the best they can be; better than I was to get the next in line ready to care and win".
Hello "40 years after my class" member of '23!

Well said!!!!

You echoed my thoughts beautifully. I too was cadre twice and made "friends of initial idiots" that today are some of my best friends and went on to amazing careers, both in and out of the air force.

Well done!!
 
All the cadre were in those shoes not so long ago. As much as they try to hide it in the moment, they can all relate to the cadets they are trying to frighten or instruct or inspire. There are specific training goals that require the cadets be chased out of their comfort zones and made to stand on their own feet with the support of their teammates so cadre have to put on a bit of a performance, but behind it all they are still pretty much just cadets with more experience. The ability to identify with your people is a part of leadership.
 
At the end of the day, they are students going to the academy. They are not like that during the academic year.
 
It's a game. DS is now good friends with two of his cadre. Do not take the yelling personal. Also, don't be stupid 🤣
I disagree, its a great time to be stupid as almost nothing is held against you. When you and your friends act like idiots it makes everything more enjoyable. Just like, don’t break any laws and you’ll be good.
 
I disagree, its a great time to be stupid as almost nothing is held against you. When you and your friends act like idiots it makes everything more enjoyable. Just like, don’t break any laws and you’ll be good.
My Doolie DS heard early on that leadership felt like there were not enough "spirit missions" (approved shenanigans) happening. He took it as a personal challenge to remedy this situation in his sqdn. Needless to say, he is now the paperwork expert on getting these things approved. He has the makings of a pretty good ops guy in his future. :groupwave:
 
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