What does board qualified mean?

Rob, you are reading much of this correctly. And discovering its spin equally so.

As for the red-shirting, it is de facto prevalent, couched in the reality that any number of recruited athletes are not academically competitive. While a year at NAPS often can enhance their backgrounds, as virtually any/all Mids will confirm, they often, perhaps usually continue to be academically stunted. All that is required is a 1.8 GPA and good behavior to get an appointment.

That said, if the vast majority were required to re-enter the competiton for admission on a toe-to-toe, make that head-to-head competition with the ensuing entering class? The results would be same ...another year at NAPS.

There are no NCAA limits imposed upon SAs and their recruitment, so you can figure out how NAPS (and even some foundation grants) play into this scenario.

What you are being sold is couched in terms os "goals" "objectives" "ECs" ...

You've got it right, MD. It's pure mythology, generally speaking. Don't buy it. Better yet, ask some Mids if you have the chance. They'll give you the gouge. In the end, this is using tax-payer dollars to circumvent the system by creating what appears to be a separate booster rocket. It is not. Merely a newly paved road too often for candidates less qualified in vitrually all aspects of the competiton beyond those priorities of the Navy that call for finding new strike zones that average hitters can get on base, hit a home run.
 
Where are the parents or mids who graduated from USNA that attended the NAPS or the Prep school. Please speak up.
 
Rob, you are reading much of this correctly. And discovering its spin equally so.

As for the red-shirting, it is de facto prevalent, couched in the reality that any number of recruited athletes are not academically competitive. While a year at NAPS often can enhance their backgrounds, as virtually any/all Mids will confirm, they often, perhaps usually continue to be academically stunted. All that is required is a 1.8 GPA and good behavior to get an appointment.

That said, if the vast majority were required to re-enter the competiton for admission on a toe-to-toe, make that head-to-head competition with the ensuing entering class? The results would be same ...another year at NAPS.

There are no NCAA limits imposed upon SAs and their recruitment, so you can figure out how NAPS (and even some foundation grants) play into this scenario.

What you are being sold is couched in terms os "goals" "objectives" "ECs" ...

You've got it right, MD. It's pure mythology, generally speaking. Don't buy it. Better yet, ask some Mids if you have the chance. They'll give you the gouge. In the end, this is using tax-payer dollars to circumvent the system by creating what appears to be a separate booster rocket. It is not. Merely a newly paved road too often for candidates less qualified in vitrually all aspects of the competiton beyond those priorities of the Navy that call for finding new strike zones that average hitters can get on base, hit a home run.

Does anyone have a census breakdown of NAP attendees. I bet some would be truly surprised.
 
Where are the parents or mids who graduated from USNA that attended the NAPS or the Prep school. Please speak up.
I can't speak for USNA, but DH went to the USAFA Prep school due to low verbal ACT/SAT scores, went on to graduate in top 15% of his USAFA class, and then graduated #1 in his UPT class. The prep schools serve a much higher purpose then redshirting athletes!
 
There are no NCAA limits imposed upon SAs and their recruitment, so you can figure out how NAPS (and even some foundation grants) play into this scenario.
NCAA watches the SA prep schools closely. Recruited athletes at NAPS can be no greater than the percentages in the Brigade as a whole.
 
This "scholastic" vs "board qualified" vs 3Q sure is confusing with USNA. :smile:

DS has been medically qualified (per DODMERB portal) since July, Solid CFA (per BGO) since NASS, and "scholastically qualified" (per USNA letter) since early October. Yet no other indication of status from USNA either via letter or portal.

At this point should candidates try to confirm they are 3Q? Or just trust that the combination of the above translates to 3Q? :smile:

Yes, I think you come to the conclusion that you are 3Q'd by putting the puzzle pieces together yourself. Scholastically qualified (I am betting "board qualified" = "scholastically qualified" = "academically qualified") letter confirms that Q; DoDMERB page confirms the medical Q. The physical Q, the CFA, is a bit more elusive. Average scores are posted in a sticky by USNA1985 I believe.....or you can simply call USNA and ask if you passed CFA.

When my son was at a CVW in 2008, I stopped by the Admissions Office and innocently asked if everything was complete or he needed to do anything else. I had just completed cancer surgery and treatments and was reallly wanting some assurance that everything was in place. I guess I was feeling a bit disorganized and hoping we had our act together! Son, by the way, cringed that his Mom went in and asked. And, yes, before anyone lectures me, I completely understand and believe that the candidate needs to do all the contact.

Anyway, the RD present at the time was amazingly polite and helpful. Went and checked son's file, reported he was indeed "3Q'd" and that he would be receiving a letter confirming such shortly. I asked if he could do anything else and she volunteered that he could always re-take CFA if he could score higher. I asked if that would send his app back to the review board. "No," she said, "we have a set scale for things like CFA, SAT, ACT and we just adjust their Whole Candidate Score to reflect updates."

Son was already working out, planning to re-take CFA, did so mid Dec, received appt Feb 1.

I would bet you could achieve the same result with a phone call. Oh, I forgot to mention, promised letter never came. But some on this forum reported receiving TWO such letters that cycle. Semper gumby!
 
Where are the parents or mids who graduated from USNA that attended the NAPS or the Prep school. Please speak up.

They are probably a little busy to speak up, but you can try leaving a message.
Here are some NAPS alumni (partial listing):

Deputy Commander, US CENTCOM, Lt Gen John R Allen, USMC, ’72
Astronaut, CDR Christopher J Cassidy, ’89
Rhodes Scholar: 1st Lt Nicholas M Schmitz, USMC, ’02

Flag Officers:

-VADM Robert S Harward, Jr
'75 Com, JTF 435
-VADM Samuel J Locklear, III
'73 DNS (P-NAVEUR)
-VADM Melvin G Williams, Jr
'74 Com, 2nd Fleet
-RADM Julius S Caesar
'73 Vice Dir J9, USJFCOM
-RADM Nevin P Carr, Jr
'75 Chief of Naval Research
-RADM Victor Gary Guillory
'74 Com, 4th Fleet
-RADM Garry E Hall
'72 Commandant, ICAF
-RADM David L Philman
'74 Dir, Air Warfare (N88)
-RADM Frank F Rennie, IV
'72 Dep J3, EUCOM
-Maj Gen Richard T Tryon, USMC
'71 CG, 2nd MarDiv
-RDML Terry J Benedict
'78 PEO, Integrated Warfare Sys
-RDML Douglas T Biesel
'76 Com, Joint Region Marianas
-RDML Michael S Frick
'73 Vice Com, NAVSEA
-RDML Earl L Gay
'76 Com, ESG 3
-RDML James C Grunewald
'76 Com, Patrol & Recon, 5th/7th Flt
-RDML Peter A Gumataotao
'77 Com, USNAVFOR Korea
-RDML Christopher J Paul
'78 Dep, NECC
-RDML Joseph W Rixey
'79 Dep Com, SPAWAR
-RDML Thomas S Rowden
'78 Com, CSG 7
-RDML Dixon R Smith
'79 Com, NAVREGHawaii/MIDPAC
-RDML (SC) Thomas C Traaen
'78 Dep COS (N4), PACFLT
-RDML Stephen S Voetsch
'75 Dir, Navy Int’l Pgms Off
 
An intriguing and interesting list, if anecdotal. Any notables from the more recent 35 years from among the 7,000 to 8,000 NAPsters since these?

And of course NAPS was a sorely different beast in 1968 and the ensuing few years. Interesting if of no pertinence now some 50 years or so after the fact.
 
An intriguing and interesting list, if anecdotal. Any notables from the more recent 35 years from among the 7,000 to 8,000 NAPsters since these?
LOL. I doubt if we will find a list of Admirals from the last 10 or 20 year's graduation lists. NAPSters continue to graduate from the Academy at a slightly higher rate than the Brigade at large and my guess would also be that a higher percentage of them choose the Navy as a career.


And of course NAPS was a sorely different beast in 1968 and the ensuing few years. Interesting if of no pertinence now some 50 years or so after the fact.
Not at all. NAPS' mission has always been to prepare those who are deficient in math, chemistry and English to succeed at the Academy. The studfent body compositin may have changed slightly but the mission, and the quality of it's product, has always remained relatively constant.
 
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