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ConsumedPenny

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I have my congressional nomination and ROTC nomination for USNA. How do my chances of getting in look like to you all?

Academics:
  1. GPA: 3.78
  2. Ranked 55/585
  3. SAT: 720 reading writing, 760 math (1480)
Extracurriculars
  1. Head delegate of my school's Varsity Model United Nations team (ranked best public school team and 6th overall in the nation)
  2. Company First Sergeant and S-6 of school's JROTC Battalion
  3. Co-Director of school's Model UN's conference
  4. VP of tutoring for my school's National Honors Society
  5. Secretary of Key Club
  6. Varsity Swim for 3 year
Community Service
  1. Participated in multiple Meals of Hope events and packed over 90k meals
  2. Volunteered at local elementary school
Awards:

  1. Multiple Model UN placements in competitions that host over 300 delegates
  2. 3rd place at Academic World Quest district competition with over 15 other teams
  3. Recipient of a $4500 scholarship to live in Japan for a month and a half (could not attend because of Covid)



 
ConsumedPenny said:
I have my congressional nomination and ROTC nomination for USNA. How do my chances of getting in look like to you all?

Academics:
  1. GPA: 3.78
  2. Ranked 55/585
  3. SAT: 720 reading writing, 760 math (1480)
Extracurriculars
  1. Head delegate of my school's Varsity Model United Nations team (ranked best public school team and 6th overall in the nation)
  2. Company First Sergeant and S-6 of school's JROTC Battalion
  3. Co-Director of school's Model UN's conference
  4. VP of tutoring for my school's National Honors Society
  5. Secretary of Key Club
  6. Varsity Swim for 3 year
Community Service
  1. Participated in multiple Meals of Hope events and packed over 90k meals
  2. Volunteered at local elementary school
Awards:

  1. Multiple Model UN placements in competitions that host over 300 delegates
  2. 3rd place at Academic World Quest district competition with over 15 other teams
  3. Recipient of a $4500 scholarship to live in Japan for a month and a half (could not attend because of Covid)


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I think your resume looks fantastic!
 
I would say you have a strong application. It all depends on the competition.
 
You’re probably qualified for admission, but it typically comes down to who else in your congressional district you’re competing against. If you’re in a district that usually sees high levels of interest in the academies from competitive candidates, then it’s kind of a crapshoot in my opinion, although you may well still have a good shot at getting in. Bottom line is it’s all relative to your local competition. Be sure to pursue all nomination sources available to you to maximize your chance at being offered an appointment.
 
A1Janitor said:
Without knowing the competition?
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You never know. There could be 3 people in your district with a 1490 sat and and 54th in their class. Either way you would go to the NWL(national waitlist) and compete for the ~450 slots that will come off of it. I would say your stats put you in the upper-echelon of that pack, if you didn't win your Nomination slate.

There's a lot of things that go into it though. Your congressional interviews and your essays are a big part of it. Not to mention finishing the application fully qualified (physically academically and medically) is not easy at all.

I think you have a very considerable shot at it. A better shot than me. Absolutely nothing is guaranteed and there have probably been a lot of people with better stats than you who haven't got in. Move forward and complete that application though, because you are an excellent candidate.
 
ConsumedPenny said:
I have my congressional nomination and ROTC nomination for USNA. How do my chances of getting in look like to you all?

Academics:
  1. GPA: 3.78
  2. Ranked 55/585
  3. SAT: 720 reading writing, 760 math (1480)
Extracurriculars
  1. Head delegate of my school's Varsity Model United Nations team (ranked best public school team and 6th overall in the nation)
  2. Company First Sergeant and S-6 of school's JROTC Battalion
  3. Co-Director of school's Model UN's conference
  4. VP of tutoring for my school's National Honors Society
  5. Secretary of Key Club
  6. Varsity Swim for 3 year
Community Service
  1. Participated in multiple Meals of Hope events and packed over 90k meals
  2. Volunteered at local elementary school
Awards:

  1. Multiple Model UN placements in competitions that host over 300 delegates
  2. 3rd place at Academic World Quest district competition with over 15 other teams
  3. Recipient of a $4500 scholarship to live in Japan for a month and a half (could not attend because of Covid)


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So many factors like the others have said. Also depends on how many from your state are at NAPS. The NAPS students are basically guaranteed admission to USNA. These take away from the total. For instance. My state has up to 5 appointments to USNA. This year there are three going to NAPS. So up to 2 slots available this year. Throw in a recruited athlete and your odds could go down more. Last year My state only filled 4 of the 5 appointment slots too. So not every year do they fill all the states available slots.

So a well rounded and competitive packet is critical, but just one of many factors that make it extremely difficult to get an appointment.

I’d try to get your reading up to a minimum of 750, IMO.
 
Aztec Tiger said:
So many factors like the others have said. Also depends on how many from your state are at NAPS. The NAPS students are basically guaranteed admission to USNA. These take away from the total. For instance. My state has up to 5 appointments to USNA. This year there are three going to NAPS. So up to 2 slots available this year. Throw in a recruited athlete and your odds could go down more. Last year My state only filled 4 of the 5 appointment slots too. So not every year do they fill all the states available slots.

So a well rounded and competitive packet is critical, but just one of many factors that make it extremely difficult to get an appointment.

I’d try to get your reading up to a minimum of 750, IMO.
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There may be a bit of conflation of nom numbers and sources here.

Recommend re-reading the Sticky post at the top of the Nominations forum.

The NAPS folks may be getting nominations from their elected officials, service-related noms due to prior enlisted service, Presidential nom or other Superintendent-managed nom sources. USNA essentially tells those folks if they successfully complete NAPS and remain eligible medically and physically, they will “find” a nom for them even if they are unsuccessful with obtaining noms from other sources.

Each elected official (2 Sen, 1 Rep) can have up to 5 appointees EACH spread across 4 classes at USNA at any one time. They can submit a slate of up to ten names EACH for EACH slot opening up in a given cycle. Though it’s likely only 1 nominee, if fully qualified, will be offered the appointment that is charged to the elected official, USNA can choose to offer appointments to other fully qualified nominees on that same slate that will be charged to a nominating authority they oversee, according to certain guidelines. Of course, other nominees on that slate may have have service-connected noms or other noms such as JROTC, college ROTC, etc.

There is simply no way of predicting exactly how many appointees will come out of a given state in any admissions cycle.
 
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Capt MJ said:
There may be a bit of conflation of nom numbers and sources here.

Recommend re-reading the Sticky post at the top of the Nominations forum.

The NAPS folks may be getting nominations from their elected officials, service-related noms due to prior enlisted service, Presidential nom or other Superintendent-managed nom sources. USNA essentially tells those folks if they successfully complete NAPS and remain eligible medically and physically, they will “find” a nom for them even if they are unsuccessful with obtaining noms from other sources.

Each elected official (2 Sen, 1 Rep) can have up to 5 appointees EACH spread across 4 classes at USNA at any one time. They can submit a slate of up to ten names EACH for EACH slot opening up in a given cycle. Though it’s likely only 1 nominee, if fully qualified, will be offered the appointment that is charged to the elected official, USNA can choose to offer appointments to other fully qualified nominees on that same slate that will be charged to a nominating authority they oversee, according to certain guidelines. Of course, other nominees on that slate may have have service-connected noms or other noms such as JROTC, college ROTC, etc.

There is simply no way of predicting exactly how many appointees will come out of a given state in any admissions cycle.
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Yes, I thought there was no limit to how many candidates can attend the academies from a certain state. Thank you
 
Sean17 said:
You never know. There could be 3 people in your district with a 1490 sat and and 54th in their class. Either way you would go to the NWL(national waitlist) and compete for the ~450 slots that will come off of it. I would say your stats put you in the upper-echelon of that pack, if you didn't win your Nomination slate.

There's a lot of things that go into it though. Your congressional interviews and your essays are a big part of it. Not to mention finishing the application fully qualified (physically academically and medically) is not easy at all.

I think you have a very considerable shot at it. A better shot than me. Absolutely nothing is guaranteed and there have probably been a lot of people with better stats than you who haven't got in. Move forward and complete that application though, because you are an excellent candidate.
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Thank you! I hope I can win my slate, but if not I’m just hoping my WSC is high enough for an appointment
 
Good luck to you. I can remember going through this with my DS last year. Alot of anxious moments. He is now a plebe getting ready to go back this weekend. Again, best of luck.
 
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