When does USNA start sending out TWE?

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  1. navybrat

    navybrat Member

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    I am wondering if my DS is "still in the running". He received 2 nominations (senatorial and congressional) and everything was looking good. Then we saw that another boy in our district accepted an appointment (same noms), but haven't heard anything. DD is definitely still considering other options, but wondering when he would get a "no" from USNA. A friend of his wanted USMA last year, but never heard so he put a deposit at another university. Then at the 11th hour, he was told he could go to USMA after doing a PG year, which he jumped at. Does USNA do that too? Anyone know time frames for TWE or if/when those PG appointments might happen? Many thanks!
     
  2. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    TWEs I believe last year started in late Feb most of those were candidates who didn't get noms. I think bulk of TWEs were March and early April. USNA commits to notifying candidates by April 15th. In 98% of cases this holds true. The few still in limbo are on the wait list or USNA will talk to them. Yes USNA has prep school options. There are two options... one is Naval Academy Prep School and the other is the Foundation program. The bulk of appointments are given from late January through mid March for USNA. Most prep offers will come from now through April. NAPS is a military prep school run through essentially through USNA in Rhode Island. Foundation program allows candidates to select from a dozen or so schools that USNA has partnered with. If offered, I recommend to accept them if USNA is where your DS wants to be. It's a golden ticket and a great year of growth. There is tons of information about both programs on the USNA website or simple search on this forum also.
     
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  3. navybrat

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    thanks for the quick response. He would happily accept a PG year anywhere! We were just wondering if since another boy in our district received/accepted an appointment (non blue chip) if it was over. He has already been accepted at other schools (with scholarship $$), so plan B is in tact, but this is his absolute top choice... Will his status on the portal change or will a TWE just arrive? I know if varies from year to year, student to student... so I understand all answers are just "best guesses".
     
  4. Vitalzt

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    The fact that some kid in your district accepted his appointment does not mean that nobody else in your district will get an appointment to USNA. The kid was probably the principal nominee or the academy just wanted him very badly. Your DS is still in the running for an appointment, so be patient as they make the final decisions...I think for rejections, admission sends out an email notifying candidates of their status.
     
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    ktnatalk Sailor. Shipmate. Parent.

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    Really, a two years ago four kids from my son's high school were appointed to the Naval Academy. When I was appointed there were two kids from my high school. It happens. Just because one person in the district receives an appointment does not mean that everyone else is excluded.
     
  7. navybrat

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    Thank you! Is it typical that they receive the appointments a month or more apart in the same district? They do not go to the same high school but I think the other boy received his about a month ago... I am assuming/hoping he made it through the first "round" and that my DS is still being considered but that he will likely be put in the national pool? I have been told that once they go through the first "round" of appointments, the chances decrease...
     
  8. DrMom

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    Navy Brat...You cannot compare...you will make yourself crazy without any resolution. You just have to wait it out until 15 April. This is a hard time of year--it is hard for me too--my Beloved #3 is waiting to hear back from USNA, USMA, and USAFA. There is nothing any of us can do but wait and maybe pray--and think about how wonderful the Second Choice is (ROTC scholarship to a SMA--No Ordinary Back Up School--where so many students had USNA as a first choice)...right? No bad outcomes, only great opportunities. I don't know when the Fortunate Four received their appointments. (I know that I received a conditional appointment--now called an LOA in September of my senior year but that was in the Stone Ages when Bancroft Hall did not have air conditioning and women were new. My West Point son had an LOA in August and his appointment in October in 2011). But I do know that I was shocked on Awards Night at the high school when FOUR kids stood up to be honored for receiving appointments to the same USNA class. I do not know what sort of noms they had (probably a mix of senators, congressmen, & presidential) but think about it--four kids from a class of 250 kids. Amazing. It can happen to your child too but you simply won't know until the mail arrives or the portal changes. So, for everyone out there waiting. If the packet is done. It is done. Just keep plugging. February is sort of a free-bee in the waiting zone for most schools and programs. Next month...

    Last, when we were at USNA in September for the CVW...I asked, 'If he isn't going to make the cut, how long until you tell him so that he can move on in his head.' This might make me seem like a jerky mom but #3s stats are not like some of the others who are all 14 AP classes, 5.0 GPA, 3 season varsity athlete, Eagle Scout, 2200+ SAT scores...he is more of a normal kid who did not excel during his freshman year but kicked it into overdrive to pursue his dream when he realized it was not going to come true without a tremendous amount of hard work. He did it...but I am far enough away from the process to recognize that it maybe too little, too late. But it was not for me to tell him he shouldn't bother applying, right? It was for me to say, "Go for it. Do your best. Let me know how I can assist." But...even the middling guy--still no TWE. Maybe he will make it... So, do not be discouraged.
     
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    Oh, and I forgot this one last little thing...did you know that the academies will not open a portal for a kid who is a bad candidate (and they might know this from a poorly scored NASS or SLE application--i.e., comparatively low GPA, comparatively low PSAT scores). #3 had to send his red-hot SAT scores and a copy of his 6 semester transcript before USNA and USMA let him have a portal to continue applying. So see, just being able to apply is an accomplishment for some of this candidates. So, we are all playing the waiting game together. No TWE here...not yet.
     
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    So true...I have heard admissions refused to open a file for a child of an alumnus Navy Captain due to low scores a few years ago.
     
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    My #3 applied to NASS and SLE--so they had his low GPA (3.1) and low PSAT scores (whatever they were)...and he received a letter from USMA on his portal "Non Committal" and USNA sent him a letter telling him what he needed to do to become a candidate. Because he he had successfully kicked it into gear as a junior (3.4) and did well on the SATs (well enough...passing that bottom bar of 600 on each section)--he was strong enough to become a candidate and have the candidate portals opened for him. He sent those test scores and he sent his transcript--and it was enough. The applications are a lot of work for the kids and for admissions, I can see where they reserve the right to save everyone the effort. I am proud of this kid whether it works out with USNA or any of the academies. He set his course--overcoming our tremendous family tragedy--and did it. His GPA is higher now, he has AP and Honors classes, he went after Eagle Scout with remarkable gusto and did a very complicated Eagle Scout Project--clothing drive in five big schools for Syrian refugees in Jordan (this came together by Divine Providence)--and he is a nice, nice, helpful person and a generous leader--he will be a good officer no matter the commissioning source. So, again, may be too little too late--but I know he was so happy when those portals opened and he became a candidate. It seems so silly--to have to struggle to even open the application and to celebrate that--but he did it!

    And, re-reading what I wrote...the word is 'freebie'--not 'free-bee'--you can tell I don't use that word frequently.

    Last, about that USNA grad O-6...if he is worth his salt he would want the process to work fairly for his child. As parents we have to want our children to be set up for success. He has to trust that the admissions office was making the best decision for his son or daughter--nothing could stop that kid from making changes (year at MMI, taking harder classes as a senior and reapplying.) If the student wants USNA, there are many pathways. (My least favorite was offered by a BGO at my son's school who said, 'He could always enlist in the Marine Corps and apply.' I think #3 was ready to sign on the dotted line and stand on the yellow foot steps.) So, when admissions puts a halt on things, we have to trust them--they want to recruit kids who can meet the challenge. We have to want that too.
     
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  12. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO 10-Year Member

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    Interesting...it has always been put out to BGOs (maybe this was changed this past summer or two?) that all NASSers automatically are made official candidates and can apply.
     
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  13. Swag

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    Sounds like you're talking about my DS! I have to say the waiting is difficult but I am confident that they will end up exactly where they belong. He's hoping for USNA or Prep, waiting on NROTC MO results which should be out in March, and has been accepted to a SMC. The third option is a great fit for him with the exception of the out of state tuition...
    Needless to say, if Prep is not in the cards he's praying for the scholarship. If not...it will all work out , he'll attend the SMC and reapply for USNA and NROTC MO. He's my first to go to college and we do not know anyone going through or that has gone through this process. Thank God for this forum!

    Most importantly, like you said, these are great kids who will be wonderful leaders...now we wait...and pray!
     
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    Back in '12 my DS got the no thank you e-mail from NROTC on 3/31 and the TWE on 4/5...that was a tough week!
     
  15. Swag

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    I can imagine! Many of us may be in the same shoes you were in 4 years ago. Do you mind telling us what he's been up to since then? What was his back up?
     
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    Swag. Glad to know we are not alone. So, yes, anyone who says that there is no risk in applying for NASS or SLE does not know kids who don't qualify for candidacy.

    Is your SMC VMI? I think my guy would gladly go to VMI and belly up to the Marine Corps table. He did bring in a 3 year Army ROTC scholarship. Still waiting on the NROTC.

    Oh, just got home...there was a TWE from USMA...no really, my heart was in my throat..."Here we go." #3 opened it--joking, "Dear Insert Your Name; NEVER apply to our esteemed institution again." However, it was just a hard copy of a request for the 7th semester transcript that he had received online earlier this week--along with a self-addressed, postage paid envelope to submit the transcript. At least #3 gets it...and then he talked about VMI--but hten he said, "Still in the running..."

    And Swag...I have been around the block a time or two with this Help the Baby Go To College thing...so send me a PM if you want any organizational secrets. Queen of the Spreadsheet.
     
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    BGO....Nope. Same effect at both schools. He was not a NASSer, he was a NASS REJECT! (Bless his sweet little heart--but boy it kicked him in the butt to finish that Eagle Scout, get awesome grades, and FOCUS! He wants USNA pretty badly. I did not do it, could not have done it if I wanted...he woke up and was motivated by that NASS rejection letter.) You can ask admissions but USNA sent him a letter in the mail. I guess they sloughed off the inappropriately low performers from the candidate pool when they officially opened the application for the class. Everyone else was talking about portals and links and my guy couldn't see anything new for USMA or open anything for USNA.

    So THANK YOU USNA Admissions...my guy hits the track and gym daily, was asked to be on the Varsity Track Team (he is a fencer usually), had a straight A first semester report card including honors and AP classes...and he won the leadership award, honor scout camper, became a crew leader during an emergency at Philmont, and finished his Eagle Scout just in time for Congressional noms. So...thank you for helping my son to see the light and get back on the pathway to a great, happy life.
     
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  18. Swag

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    I may take you up on your offer! He did apply to VMI, however, just before the deadline so he hasn't heard back yet. He was accepted to Citadel in October. My son only applied to USNA and for an NROTC MO Scholarship. He received his congressional nomination for USNA and had his second NROTC MO interview recently. He has no interest in the other SA's or ROTC programs...his only interest in being a Marine. We've visited Citadel and he's going to do an overnight next month to see how he likes it. If he gets into VMI we'll visit there as well. Not an easy process for the kids and us parents!
     
  19. NavyHoops

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    Sounds like my kind of kid! Good luck to him.
     
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    Thanks Hoops and Swag. Yes, he wants to be a Marine--like your boy Swag. (it breaks my heart but I kind of did this to him in my last job--I know that there are people on here who look at my picture and know exactly who I am, which is fine. Not that I would not be super proud--but really, I am a mom, I know something about each of the services...it is a harder life but not mine to pick.) I think deep in his heart so he likes USNA because it pushes the decision point down the road whereas we were both shocked this fall when he opened the ROTC portal and saw that you cannot apply to NROTC and NROTC MO at the same time. I was like, "PICK! "--and he thought for a week and picked NROTC because so few MO scholarships are awarded (and it isn't that he needs the scholarship, he has the Sgt Fry/GI Bill--he just wants the commitment.) So, still waiting...
     
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