Where do you get Appointment notification?

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Dadofcandidiate

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Where do cadets find out about being appointed and when will these start for
those that are 3q and have nomination.
 
In the candidates portal there will appear a green box with a congratulatory note in it. Or the BFE shows up in the mail first.

Typically now through the beginning of May.
 
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Is it possible to get an offer of appointment without getting a 3Q’d letter first?
 
Yes, you can get an appointment without any sort of prior notification or encouragement. Also, the purple box on the portal may show up or the BFE may arrive at your house or your Congressman might call--there is no set order or mechanism through which candidates are notified of their appointment.
 
DrMom said:
Yes, you can get an appointment without any sort of prior notification or encouragement. Also, the purple box on the portal may show up or the BFE may arrive at your house or your Congressman might call--there is no set order or mechanism through which candidates are notified of their appointment.
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Arent Congressman given 72 hours to notify the candidate before the BFE arrives/the portal is updated?
 
Our son was appointed to USNA yesterday, Senators's staff set up phone call in guidance office (surprise to both me and our DS) and invited teachers, peers, staff etc to observe (at Senator's request). They then explained the process, how competitive, how lengthy etc. Asked him if he still was hoping to attend, then announced the appointment. The staffer said they were notified by USNA Monday and that they had 48 hours to tell him before he would receive notification from USNA via email and portal. I know you are asking specifically about USMA, they may be slightly different, and remember, 535 members of Congress can do it 535 different ways. Good luck to you!
 
Dadofcandidiate said:
Where do cadets find out about being appointed and when will these start for
those that are 3q and have nomination.
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Just a quick "sidenote". Being 3Q with a Nom does not guarantee appointment, it qualifies one to be offered an appointment. The only real givens are if you have an LOA, are 3Q, and get a Principle Nomination. In that case USMA is supposed to offer the appointment by law (10 USC). Having an LOA by itself does not guarantee an appointment, being 3Q by itself does not guarantee an appointment, and having a Nom by itself does not guarantee an appointment. Even being 3Q with a Nom (non principle) does not guarantee an appointment. The two most likely situations to be sort of guaranteed an appointment are: 3Q with a Principle Nom, or 3Q with a nom and an LOA. A lot of candidates 3Q, with a Nom and no LOA end up on the NWL and then they could be 1 of 150 chosen from that "Wait List", but no guarantee of appointment.
 
@Sargrio22 Just because they are notified does not mean they will call. Again, it is completely random. You may or may not get a call and you will either get the BFE or the portal update first. There is no set order.
 
Impulsive said:
Just a quick "sidenote". Being 3Q with a Nom does not guarantee appointment, it qualifies one to be offered an appointment. The only real givens are if you have an LOA, are 3Q, and get a Principle Nomination. In that case USMA is supposed to offer the appointment by law (10 USC). Having an LOA by itself does not guarantee an appointment, being 3Q by itself does not guarantee an appointment, and having a Nom by itself does not guarantee an appointment. Even being 3Q with a Nom (non principle) does not guarantee an appointment. The two most likely situations to be sort of guaranteed an appointment are: 3Q with a Principle Nom, or 3Q with a nom and an LOA. A lot of candidates 3Q, with a Nom and no LOA end up on the NWL and then they could be 1 of 150 chosen from that "Wait List", but no guarantee of appointment.
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Very well explained. :biglaugh:

The only thing I would like to add is that the 3Q notification might not even be sent, although fully achieved.

For all those who "downplay" the LOA, take a look at all the appointments offered in the early stages... vast majority have LOA's.
 
Of the small percentage self-reported here on SAF, there are many LOAs - yes.

We do not have visibility on the unreported appointments, how many, when offered, and how many had LOAs. We have no idea if there is a correlation between those who tend to self-report and LOAs, if there is an inherent bias. It may or may not be accurate to extrapolate from the small sample size here.

There is one fact we can be fairly sure of: the majority of those offered appointments do not have LOAs. And, an appointment is an appointment is an appointment, no matter when in the cycle offered, how many noms were collected, whether or not LOAs were offered or principal noms indicated. All are the same on Day 1, in terms of rank. All graduate as O-1, with all the minutiae of the admissions process fast receding in the rear view mirror perspective.
 
Capt MJ said:
Of the small percentage self-reported here on SAF, there are many LOAs - yes.

We do not have visibility on the unreported appointments, how many, when offered, and how many had LOAs. We have no idea if there is a correlation between those who tend to self-report and LOAs, if there is an inherent bias. It may or may not be accurate to extrapolate from the small sample size here.

There is one fact we can be fairly sure of: the majority of those offered appointments do not have LOAs. And, an appointment is an appointment is an appointment, no matter when in the cycle offered, how many noms were collected, whether or not LOAs were offered or principal noms indicated. All are the same on Day 1, in terms of rank. All graduate as O-1, with all the minutiae of the admissions process fast receding in the rear view mirror perspective.
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Capt MJ that's like 4 or 5 facts :)

Agree with all, but LOAs and multiple/principle nominations reduce the uncertainty and move the appointment needle. Once received, all the same.
 
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I often write with a broader population of readers in mind, the upcoming 2025 and later folks, peering through the keyhole, absorbing acronyms and perhaps getting the impression most get LOAs and that pursuit of an LOA is critical.
 
Just to add some context about all the LOA's in the appointment thread, all the appointments up until this point are for athletes or soldiers. All recruited "chipped" athletes receive an LOA as do some of the soldiers.
 
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