Who all to get Police Checks from?

TexMex2022

Member
I attempted to ask the local admissions officer a few days ago but got no response so I hope y'all can help. I read all the requirements for who I need to get Police checks from but it sounds confusing and extensive.

Here is what I have gather so far please tell me if I'm correct:
-City I live in
-City I go to school in
-County of the above
-My old city
-My old county
-My HS
-My MS
-My Elementary

This is the personal list I have gathered from the description in the form. Please tell me if I'm missing or have too many items.
 

AF6872

10-Year Member
Too many. Your local Police And Police Where Son or Daughter may have gone to High School if out of State. They are easy to work with.
 

justdoit19

Member
I attempted to ask the local admissions officer a few days ago but got no response so I hope y'all can help. I read all the requirements for who I need to get Police checks from but it sounds confusing and extensive.

Here is what I have gather so far please tell me if I'm correct:
-City I live in
-City I go to school in
-County of the above
-My old city
-My old county
-My HS
-My MS
-My Elementary

This is the personal list I have gathered from the description in the form. Please tell me if I'm missing or have too many items.
We initially read that DS perhaps needed multiple (although not as many as listed here) checks...but after reading multiple old posts on the forums, we headed to the our county level, where firearms permits are issued, as they do a background check for that (our police dept wouldn’t attest to any court proceedings). Our country sheriff sept had me scan the form, filled it out and mailed same day. Easy peasy! So my suggestion would be to call and see who will check and sign both boxes, you will find one. I thought this would be a difficult task based upon our first inquiry with our police department, but I don’t believe it’s designed to be hard. Should be easy as these kids should be clean!!

Btw, DS said that their prior school resource officer used to do them. So maybe they would be a good one to ask??
 

Cerberi

Member
Minimize the effort - go to the local police district only. Some will refuse as a matter of policy- if they do have them sign a statement it is against policy.

This is a ridiculous exercise and why they ask for it is nebulous. Your Mid will have a more complete background investigation for their security clearance their Plebe year.

You can make it very complicated and find multiple police agencies your child might have interacted or you can do the simple thing - which will suffice - and find the local police to either sign off or say it’s against policy

We live in a Tri state area and we have been there done that
 

TexMex2022

Member
Thank you all who replied to my question, y'all're certainly more helpful than my admissions counsoler. However, on the anecdotal side of things I am the candidate, not a parent, I frankly find it concerning the lack of candidates willing to speak up on the forums and hope that in the future parents have their children assume responsibility of their application.
 

mswmommy

Member
Thank you all who replied to my question, y'all're certainly more helpful than my admissions counsoler. However, on the anecdotal side of things I am the candidate, not a parent, I frankly find it concerning the lack of candidates willing to speak up on the forums and hope that in the future parents have their children assume responsibility of their application.
It's a leap in logic to assume parents are not having their children take responsibility for their applications simply because a number of parents are posting on these public forums. It is certainly commendable that you, as a candidate, are proactive in seeking information as needed.
 

justdoit19

Member
FOR SURE do not think that a parent offering you help, to a public statement, on a public forum, is any indication of the candidate not doing the work or inquiries. That is not a correct assumption. At all. And does not mean candidates are not willing to speak up. And no need to be concerned.

FYI, going forward, on the anecdotal side of things, if you want responses only from candidates, and not others, put that in your inquiry. There are lots of seasoned parents/administrators/staff here that have been through this before. Some multiple times. Some for MANY years. And all are more than willing to offer ideas, insight and suggestions to help busy, new candidates navigate through this new experience. Only here to help. But if you want advice from a candidate only, make sure and make that clear. Good luck and congrats on your appointment.
 

time2

10-Year Member
I frankly find it concerning the lack of candidates willing to speak up on the forums....
After you participate here awhile, you will appreciate when those who have actually experienced the process (some multiple times) or people such as BGO's offer current/accurate advice. Random h.s. students often fling out dreadful advice/opinions that can actually do more harm than good.
 

TexMex2022

Member
FOR SURE do not think that a parent offering you help, to a public statement, on a public forum, is any indication of the candidate not doing the work or inquiries. That is not a correct assumption. At all. And does not mean candidates are not willing to speak up. And no need to be concerned.

FYI, going forward, on the anecdotal side of things, if you want responses only from candidates, and not others, put that in your inquiry. There are lots of seasoned parents/administrators/staff here that have been through this before. Some multiple times. Some for MANY years. And all are more than willing to offer ideas, insight and suggestions to help busy, new candidates navigate through this new experience. Only here to help. But if you want advice from a candidate only, make sure and make that clear. Good luck and congrats on your appointment.
Oh do not get me wrong the responses from experienced people is what I was looking for but it's in the responses where I was assumed to be the parent and as I've seen from my CVW and BGO not only these forums is the lack of student interaction. I dont not mean to shame or demean them only wish to expose a problem and address it to make the whole process better for all. I wholeheartedly agree with you and time2 that students give horrible advice and parents, alumni, and the like answer questions to a better extent but it should be the students who ask the questions.
 

Old Navy BGO

5-Year Member
Back to the original post .... since we are getting into the season where the Permit to Report questions start coming, the first bit of advise is to READ THE INSTRUCTIONS and do exactly what is stated. Questions arise because people try to read between the lines or anticipate what they think USNA is asking for. I get that everyone is nervous, wants to get it right, etc., but there are no trick questions or gotcha's. I suspect the forms and documents change a little each year, and sure local police departments may have CYA policies that create an element of uncertainty, but for the most part, the process is pretty straightforward.
 

THParent

Member
TexMex2022 -

I (A parent) have been hanging out here because I think I may want to be a BGO after I retire, but I get what you're saying.

I think that the "problem" (if there really is one) is that Mids currently in the Brigade don't have time to visit these forums, nor do they care.
Once you get in, it's more of a priority to get squared away and settle in for what's ahead, than look backward and help other Plebe-hopefuls along their way.
That's not to say that they wouldn't be interested in having a drag on a CVW and answer all the questions said drag throws at them.
If they have extra time, I would think most of them wouldn't want to spend it at a computer, typing. Ya know?
 

AF6872

10-Year Member
Both local Police, home and away, at school and home town said no problem and good luck and sent it in. They do need some help at times and who better to give advice than a parent although it may not sound great at the time. As stated above, Security clearance will find everything they ever thought of or didn't think of.
 

TexMex2022

Member
Back to the original post .... since we are getting into the season where the Permit to Report questions start coming, the first bit of advise is to READ THE INSTRUCTIONS and do exactly what is stated. Questions arise because people try to read between the lines or anticipate what they think USNA is asking for. I get that everyone is nervous, wants to get it right, etc., but there are no trick questions or gotcha's. I suspect the forms and documents change a little each year, and sure local police departments may have CYA policies that create an element of uncertainty, but for the most part, the process is pretty straightforward.
You're saying use my extensive original list? Because not between the lines but in actual writing. The paper said to get one from every city and county you've lived in and every school "police" dept. Also what is this permit to report? Is that the blue foldable I have received?
 

THParent

Member
You can make copies and send it to as many agencies as you wish. My DS sent one to the State Police, and USNA didn't ask for anything else.

As for the Permit to Report, you will receive that later. It's a large envelope with a bunch of forms. I listed what is in the PTR HERE.
The blue folder just has your Offer of Appointment in it, along with stock photos of an F/A18 launching off CVN-70 and some Midshipmen.
 

momofmod

Member
TexMex2022 -

I (A parent) have been hanging out here because I think I may want to be a BGO after I retire, but I get what you're saying.

I think that the "problem" (if there really is one) is that Mids currently in the Brigade don't have time to visit these forums, nor do they care.
Once you get in, it's more of a priority to get squared away and settle in for what's ahead, than look backward and help other Plebe-hopefuls along their way.
That's not to say that they wouldn't be interested in having a drag on a CVW and answer all the questions said drag throws at them.
If they have extra time, I would think most of them wouldn't want to spend it at a computer, typing. Ya know?
My son is a plebe and a Varsity athlete and enjoyed his two 'drags.' He said right now there is ZERO time for participating in helping out candidates on line. After plebe year I'm sure time will be there the 'caring to' is definitely a different story!
 

jdawg

Member
I now understand the OPs original dilemma. The instructions that come with the appointment are VERY nebulous and basically tell you to get a background from everyone. It wasn’t until we were looking at the 2021 PTR in the link that CaptMJ posted “More Good Links” that it clarifies for the last 5 years. We moved 3 years ago halfway across the country. So DS is getting one from our local sheriff and sent the form to our previous sheriff. Then to everyone’s suggestions here, wait and see if that suffices. Thanks again for the info CaptMJ
 

Capt MJ

10-Year Member
I now understand the OPs original dilemma. The instructions that come with the appointment are VERY nebulous and basically tell you to get a background from everyone. It wasn’t until we were looking at the 2021 PTR in the link that CaptMJ posted “More Good Links” that it clarifies for the last 5 years. We moved 3 years ago halfway across the country. So DS is getting one from our local sheriff and sent the form to our previous sheriff. Then to everyone’s suggestions here, wait and see if that suffices. Thanks again for the info CaptMJ
Appreciate the shout-out - that’s exactly why I posted it. The PTR changes very little, and gives a good general idea on the brand-new set of Stuff To Do.

If I’m smart, I’ll bookmark it and update for Jan 2019...
 

falconchic88

10-Year Member
Also remember you are asking for a police record check, NOT a criminal background check. Two different animals. A police record check can be run very quickly, pretty much while you wait. I have been through this process 4 times now, and this last time, when we went to our county sheriff they started to give my son the paperwork for a criminal background check, which they said he needed to have notarized. I knew I had never done that before, so I questioned them, and after going round and round, the admin brought out a deputy and he explained to her that DS simply needed a record check.
 
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