Will USNA asks for retakes if cfa does not qualify?

[Ramgoat18]

Hi, I was wondering if USNA will asks for cfa retakes if your not physically qualified. My initial cfa scores were accepted despite being bad. I retook the test and improved significantly from 0 to 9 pulls ups and I feel like I can do better on other things as well. I just want to know if by USNA not asking for retakes if that means I’m physically qualified.

 

[THParent]

Not an expert with how the voodoo happens in admissions, but I have personally never heard of someone being told that their CFA score didn't pass. The USMA and USAFA will notify applicants, - but as far as I am aware - the USNA does not. It is good that you re-submitted your CFA scores. Zero (0) pull ups for a male is decidedly not good. Nine (9) is only half-way to the maximum, but shows tremendous improvement.

This is just my opinion mind you, but if you get to the point of "Complete Pending Review" with no further actions needed, then I think you can surmise that you are qualified. If you have a nomination, then you just wait.
That wait could be as long as April 15th.

Remember that you have until January 31st to complete your application. If you can do significantly better on the CFA, take it again.

 

[Old Navy BGO]

I don't see Candidate Portals, but the BGO see's whether the Candidate Passes or Fails the CFA. (We don't see scores ).

f you get to the point of "Complete Pending Review" with no further actions needed, then I think you can surmise that you are qualified. If you have a nomination, then you just wait.

> CPR does not equate to "qualified" - You can have a complete application package and not be qualified, either at Admissions Board or CFA.

 

[THParent]

I don't see Candidate Portals, but the BGO see's whether the Candidate Passes or Fails the CFA. (We don't see scores )...

I did NOT know that. Thanks, @Old Navy BGO.

I know CPR doesn't equate to 3Q, but I guess it's as far as a candidate can get, before the waiting begins. For all the stress of wondering, they might as well assume that they are qualified at that point, and let the chips fall as they may. I guess that's where I was going with that.

 

[Ramgoat18]

I don't see Candidate Portals, but the BGO see's whether the Candidate Passes or Fails the CFA. (We don't see scores ).

f you get to the point of "Complete Pending Review" with no further actions needed, then I think you can surmise that you are qualified. If you have a nomination, then you just wait.

> CPR does not equate to "qualified" - You can have a complete application package and not be qualified, either at Admissions Board or CFA.

Thank you! So in other words my bgo would’ve let me know if I failed anything?

 

[A6E Dad]

BGOs can see whether or not your CFA score is qualifying or not. Most BGOs would let you know if you failed to qualify, but if you think your scores are borderline you should ask the BGO to confirm.

 

[Old Navy BGO]

Thank you! So in other words my bgo would’ve let me know if I failed anything?

Some BGO's are more proactive than others .... I always talk with my candidates about CFA , and would tell them if BGIS shows that it is not passing.

The statement that BGO's will let you know if you "failed" anything is overbroad. We know, but are not supposed to tell (so DON'T ASK), if an Candidate is Not Qualfied by Admissions Board (one of the 3 "Q's"). We also know if you didn't qualify medically (another Q), but don't know (and are not supposed to inquire) about conditions or reasons. With medical, I never raise the issue, but will talk about process (without discussing specific conditions) if asked.

 

[A6E Dad]

concur with the above,
BGO's can (and should) let you know if you failed to qualify physically only. Medical qual or dq will show up in BGO portal, but candidate will have much more detail than the BGO will. And Board qualification is known but not to be disclosed by BGO.

 

[usna1985]

To my knowledge, Admissions tells candidates to retake the CFA if the scores don't pass. Since candidates can retake through Jan. 31, USNA has every incentive to tell candidates if they fail and I believe they do so.

 

[statechamps2017]

To my knowledge, Admissions tells candidates to retake the CFA if the scores don't pass. Since candidates can retake through Jan. 31, USNA has every incentive to tell candidates if they fail and I believe they do so.

I took my CFA through my NROTC unit. The Marine E-5 that administered my test was all about great form, not numbers. I took the physical parts indoors and nearly maxed out on everything (max sit-ups, pull-ups, & shuttle run...65 form push-ups and 74-ft basketball throw). But, then I needed to use the rest time to change into cold weather gear and then go outside and do the mile run through city streets, on a cloudy day...some rain/sleet/snow in sub-30-degree weather. So my mile time was 7:30...bad (my normal mile time is in the 6:10 - 6:15 range). I was concerned about it so I reached out to my admissions advisor. He told me that I could retake it if I wanted to but that my results were "well-within passing" range.

So admission advisors know if you pass/fail. Mine told me. Not sure if all advisors will do that. Give it a try. It seems like the pass/fail scale is pretty generous.

 

[usna1985]

One caveat that has been stated before . . . although the CFA is P/F, it can help to do well on the CFA, especially if your athletic accomplishments are o/w underwhelming. The #2 reason mids leave USNA is failure to pass the 1.5 mile run during the PRT. Thus, USNA wants to ensure those they admit can handle the physical demands. That can be done by a demonstrated commitment to athletics and/or being able to get yourself in shape to do well on the CFA.

 

[Norfolk63]

Candidates who do not pass CFA will be notified by Admissions. Do your level best. Just like with the SAT/ACT it is in a Candidate's best interest to continue to improve their scores and resubmit. Make your goal to prepare for success at the Academy, and you can't go wrong.