William Ryan Owens

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by tug_boat, Mar 1, 2017.

  1. tug_boat

    tug_boat 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    2,087
    Likes Received:
    1,117
    We will never forget!
    Ever
    God Bless Your Family



    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
  2. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ 10-Year Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    5,570
    Likes Received:
    7,740
    SEAL Ethos/Creed

    In times of war or uncertainty there is a special breed of warrior ready to answer our Nation’s call. A common man with uncommon desire to succeed. Forged by adversity, he stands alongside America’s finest special operations forces to serve his country, the American people, and protect their way of life. I am that man.

    My Trident is a symbol of honor and heritage. Bestowed upon me by the heroes that have gone before, it embodies the trust of those I have sworn to protect. By wearing the Trident I accept the responsibility of my chosen profession and way of life. It is a privilege that I must earn every day.

    My loyalty to Country and Team is beyond reproach. I humbly serve as a guardian to my fellow Americans always ready to defend those who are unable to defend themselves. I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions. I voluntarily accept the inherent hazards of my profession, placing the welfare and security of others before my own.

    I serve with honor on and off the battlefield. The ability to control my emotions and my actions, regardless of circumstance, sets me apart from other men. Uncompromising integrity is my standard. My character and honor are steadfast. My word is my bond.

    We expect to lead and be led. In the absence of orders I will take charge, lead my teammates and accomplish the mission. I lead by example in all situations.

    I will never quit. I persevere and thrive on adversity. My Nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down, I will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.

    We demand discipline. We expect innovation. The lives of my teammates and the success of our mission depend on me - my technical skill, tactical proficiency, and attention to detail. My training is never complete.

    We train for war and fight to win. I stand ready to bring the full spectrum of combat power to bear in order to achieve my mission and the goals established by my country. The execution of my duties will be swift and violent when required yet guided by the very principles that I serve to defend.

    Brave men have fought and died building the proud tradition and feared reputation that I am bound to uphold. In the worst of conditions, the legacy of my teammates steadies my resolve and silently guides my every deed. I will not fail.
     
  3. scoutpilot

    scoutpilot 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,526
    Likes Received:
    1,016
    As someone who knew Ryan, you can get out of here with this Trump BS. That joke of a "leader" has pissed all over this entire situation. Disgusting. Utterly disgusting.
     
  4. AJC

    AJC Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2014
    Messages:
    988
    Likes Received:
    650
    My Generals are the best Generals
     
  5. DrMom

    DrMom 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,148
    Likes Received:
    1,755
    Now the President, the Congress, and the Nation should honor Mrs. Owens and all surviving spouses by removing the SBP/DIC offset. Our husbands went to their graves believing that their families would be taken care of by the military through their survivor benefit plan--and it is simply not the case. (I don't need the money--I am a professional woman--but if Mrs. Owens is like the majority of my Gold Star Wives--she really needsthe full SBP to help build a life for herself and any surviving children in the Owens household.)
     
  6. NTWLF ONE

    NTWLF ONE Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    330
    If you are an AD service member on this forum, just a friendly reminder...

    "Generally, the law draws no distinction between language directed at the President in his official or private capacity,35 and the truthfulness of the contemptuous comments is irrelevant as a matter of law.36 The truth or falsity of the statement has been considered irrelevant because “the gist of the offense is the con- temptuous character of the language and the malice with which it is used.”37 Also, the particular forum in which the words are rendered is not dispositive.38 Further, it is generally not a defense that the accused did not intend his words to be contemptuous,39 and to achieve a conviction the government does not even have to establish that anyone made privy to the contemptuous words knew of the accused’s military status.40 ."

    If one is no longer serving in an AD status, then fire away...
     
    AF6872, Sledge and Capri120 like this.
  7. Jcc123

    Jcc123 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2010
    Messages:
    1,024
    Likes Received:
    408
    All Trump did was parade Ryan's widow in public for his own self-aggrandizement, and to try to counter the impact of his father, who is demanding an investigation. If you believe for one second Trump gives a **** about any part of this situation, you're sadly mistaken.
     
  8. DrMom

    DrMom 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,148
    Likes Received:
    1,755
    MomWPgirl, scoutpilot and NTWLF ONE like this.
  9. scoutpilot

    scoutpilot 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,526
    Likes Received:
    1,016
  10. NTWLF ONE

    NTWLF ONE Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    330
    Yeah, there haven't been many Article 88 convictions but it's still in there....
     
  11. Capri120

    Capri120 Parent

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2016
    Messages:
    1,095
    Likes Received:
    1,000
    And you think Clinton gave a **** about Khizr Khan and his son? That WAS a shameful paid display during that losing campaign.

    I do not agree with Trump's response to the family, but Clinton's only reason to parade this family in front of the media was strictly politics. She nor her husband has ever cared for or helped the military. I unfortunately, served under Clinton.
     
  12. charlieschwarzbear

    charlieschwarzbear New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2017
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    4
    I'd love to see an investigation on the chinook that was shot down with seals, marines and pilots inside, and no apache escort..
     
    Sledge, Wishful, USMA96 and 1 other person like this.
  13. Capri120

    Capri120 Parent

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2016
    Messages:
    1,095
    Likes Received:
    1,000
    I always thought that horrendous incident was a little too coincidental, but...
     
  14. scoutpilot

    scoutpilot 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,526
    Likes Received:
    1,016
    Well the investigation already happened and the community knows how it ended up that way. Sorry you didn't get a copy.
     
  15. scoutpilot

    scoutpilot 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,526
    Likes Received:
    1,016
    With all due respect to whatever your background is, how about we just lay off turning a tragedy into some Wednesday morning conspiracy theory?

    Shameful. Utterly shameful.
     
    CaliNavyMom likes this.
  16. unkown1961

    unkown1961 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2016
    Messages:
    463
    Likes Received:
    270
    He kind of threw them under the bus though:
    “This was something that was, you know, just — [the generals] wanted to do,” Trump said. “ And they came to see me and they explained what they wanted to do, the generals, who are very respected.”

    “And they lost Ryan,” Trump continued."
    Trump passes blame for Yemen raid to his generals: ‘They lost Ryan’ - Wash Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...or-yemen-raid-to-his-generals-they-lost-ryan/
     
    moge17 and campe18 like this.
  17. USMCGrunt

    USMCGrunt 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2010
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    2,305
    There is a wide chasm between the warrior on the battlefield and the politicians who sent them there. Always has been. We can respect and honor the soldier while holding the politicians in contempt. But it seems hypocritical to single out this one instance since every politician uses the military community as pawns in their efforts to sell a message. Every administration has done this. Parades, war bonds, state of the union, political rallies, etc.

    Even in my short six years on active duty I detailed Marines to all types of political and community events and I personally led color guards at similar events. Took a detail to line the steps of some fancy hotel for a Diane Fienstein event in San Francisco. The politicians walked past us, the crowd moved into the dining room and we were sent home .

    Let's remember the man and debate the politics in another thread. May God bless William Ryan Owns and his family.
     
  18. Maplerock

    Maplerock Proud to be an American 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2013
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    1,047
    Life is better when you're positive and upbeat. Why go through it with a chip on your shoulder. Was it necessary to tell Ryan his thoughts are "BS"? Are his opinions less valuable than yours?
     
  19. scoutpilot

    scoutpilot 5-Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2010
    Messages:
    4,526
    Likes Received:
    1,016
    This makes no sense.
     
  20. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ 10-Year Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    5,570
    Likes Received:
    7,740
    Scout, I assumed from your comment you knew Senior Chief Owens. Just to clarify, so I can follow the exchanges.